'97 Heritage H575... any good?
Dan
and Broadway... both acousticly, and electric???
Thanks,
Dan
Dan
I've seen great deals on both (at least I think they are good deals... about
$1,250 US)
David C. Stephens
Dan wrote:
I think that the 575 compares favorably to all the Epis that you mention, but
not by a whole lot. Keep in mind that it has two heavy routed pickups and the
top is out of solid maple. When you compare a 575 to an Eagle or Sweet 16, the
acoustic quality of the spruce or mahogany topped guitars just blow away the
maple and laminated top guitars (excluding laminated Benedettos, D'Aquistos,
Ungers, Mortoros and early '50s 175 here).
The finish and construction of the 575 is at least one order of excellence above
the Epis, IMHO. The biggest shortcoming of stock 575s in my opinion is the stock
neck humbucker. That's easily fixed with a Seymour Duncan Jazz or PAF replacing
the neck PU. The ideal 575, IMHO is a single PU model with a Seymour Duncan.
Routed pickups are the way to go for live performance without a PA system. The
extra mass in the top reduces the sensitivity to feedback. I recall that you
already have a semi-hollow body guitar already. If you want to keep that for
high level performance situations and you want a guitar that has excellent
acoustic character, then I suggest that you consider moving up to a Heritage
Eagle or Sweet 16.
Happy hunting,
Dave
David C. Stephens
Dan wrote:
That's about what Jay Wolfe will sell you a brand new 575 for. Contact Jay
before you buy any Heritage, new or used.
Dave
Geordie F.O. Kelly
jazz box again (except other Heritage guitars, e.g. Eagle, etc.). This
guitar sounds excellent, both amplified and acoustically. The first
thing that really wowed me was the neck position pick-up. I liked it so
much that I contacted the factory and found out what it was (a
schaller...yeah, I was surprised too.). I even responded to a post here
about a week ago saying these very same things and that I could darhn
near replicate the guitar sound of Peter Bernstein on Josh Redman's
"Freedom of the Groove"; a sound that I was particularly fond of from
the first time I heard it (woody sound with punch). My opinion is
obvious, and I would (and have ) recommend them to anyone looking to
purchase a new box.
Geordie F.O. Kelly
Jazz Guitarist
MA Music Theory and Jazz Studies
Geordie F.O. Kelly
Morris Acevedo
>
> How does this guitar compare to the Epiphone Emporer Regent, Joe Pass Model,
> and Broadway... both acousticly, and electric???
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
I think that the Heritage guitar is so much better than th eguitars you
mentioned that there is really no comparison.
I dig em!
--
Morris Acevedo
Jazz Guitarist - performer - teacher
San Francisco, California
"taking time to make time"
Morris Acevedo
neck humbucker. That's easily fixed with a Seymour Duncan Jazz or PAF
replacing
the neck PU. The ideal 575, IMHO is a single PU model with a Seymour
Duncan.>>>>>
I really like the stock heritage pickups. They have plenty of life,
not dark and dull. So chords sound full and rich. I find that alot of
Jazz players go for a huge, thick, dark single note sound. Which is
O.K. if all you play is solos. But I like more highs, the chords just
sound more resonant. And thats where you really "hear" the difference
between a great guitar and an Asian guitar.
RFD
I have a custom Heritage H550 with a single neck pickup, a Schaller
Golden 50, and I find it to quite versatile for jazz and bluez. I did
try a Duncan Jazz Neck p/u, but opted to stay with the Schaller simply
because it sounded better to my ears and suits my fingerstyle playing.
RFD.
Geordie F.O. Kelly
think yhey are absolutely wonderful, and started to think maybe I was
the only one (which makes NO difference to me if that were the case).
Heritages guitars are great instruments.
Geordie F.O. Kelly
Geordie F.O. Kelly
RFD
Heritage makes a fine alternative to Gibson - the overall quality and
attention to detail is greater (IMHO) and Heritage's pricing is sane
compared to Gibson's outrageous prices of late. There's no question
that Heritage, like Gibson, mostly picks out good vendors for their
hardware (Grover, Schaller, Duncan, etc.) - the Schaller (Germany)
Golden 50's ARE superb pickups and can hold their own with Duncans and
DiMarzios, to say the least.
On a side note: as with almost every new production guitar, you've GOT
to have it setup for you're playing style by a good luthier. I'd
venture a guess that less than only 2% of all guitarists do that and
don't realize what they (and their guitars) are missing. Also, get a
good fret crown every 2 to 4 years is also great insurance to having a
guitar that's easier to play and tune - not many bother with that and
pay the consequences down the road by having to go for a re-fret.
Just my 2 cents.
RFD.
JAlbin1916
>to have it setup for you're playing style by a good luthier. I'd
>venture a guess that less than only 2% of all guitarists do that and
>don't realize what they (and their guitars) are missing. Also, get a
>good fret crown every 2 to 4 years is also great insurance to having a
>guitar that's easier to play and tune - not many bother with that and
>pay the consequences down the road by having to go for a re-fret.
>Just my 2 cents.
This is good advice, with one caveat Getting the frets re-crowned (aka "gound
and polished" , "dressed") won't save you from having to refret down the road.
Frets wear out from use over time, whether you dress them or not. In fact,
dressing them actually slightly accelerates the erosion process, though it's
still worth doing for the playability and intonation benefits. Otherwise, I
heartily agree that getting a new guitar properly set up is key. If you've
never had a competent set-up done, you'll be amazed at how much it can improve
the playability of a guitar.
John
Alexei Aganin
: >On a side note: as with almost every new production guitar, you've GOT
: >to have it setup for you're playing style by a good luthier. I'd
: never had a competent set-up done, you'll be amazed at how much it can improve
: the playability of a guitar.
I feel need to highlight that "good" and "competent" are keywords
here. I've had rather a frustrating experience, once.
Geordie F.O. Kelly
Milwaukee, I know an excellent guitar tech. He set up my Heriatge when
I first bought it, and he gave me "the works"! Plays like a dream.
Geordie F.O. Kelly
RFD
>>On a side note: as with almost every new production guitar, you've GOT
>>to have it setup for you're playing style by a good luthier. I'd
>>venture a guess that less than only 2% of all guitarists do that and
>>don't realize what they (and their guitars) are missing. Also, get a
>>good fret crown every 2 to 4 years is also great insurance to having a
>>guitar that's easier to play and tune - not many bother with that and
>>pay the consequences down the road by having to go for a re-fret.
>>Just my 2 cents.
>
>This is good advice, with one caveat Getting the frets re-crowned (aka "gound
>and polished" , "dressed") won't save you from having to refret down the road.
>Frets wear out from use over time, whether you dress them or not. In fact,
>dressing them actually slightly accelerates the erosion process, though it's
>still worth doing for the playability and intonation benefits. Otherwise, I
>heartily agree that getting a new guitar properly set up is key. If you've
>never had a competent set-up done, you'll be amazed at how much it can improve
>the playability of a guitar.
>
>John
With regards to the re-crown, I think it really does make sense, and
so do other guitarists and luthiers. Whatever your playing regimen,
there will come a time when the fret areas under certain strings will
show significant wear ("valleys"). If not cared for (getting the
recrown) your intonation and playability will suffer - and, the
subsequent recrown (really, a very expensive re-level) will take off
much more of the fret than if you had periodic fret "touchups". This
is a pay-me-now-or-pay-me-big-time-later deal. And I've gone down
this road too many times in past decades. Nowadays, it's just cheaper
to fork over the $75 to $100 for the average 2 year fixup. And, my
guitar(s) playability/intonation remain far more constant. Also of
note: too many production guitars have flat topped frets - they need
to be crowned round in order to correctly intonate!
RFD.
TomLippinc
>>good fret crown every 2 to 4 years is also great insurance to having a
>>guitar that's easier to play and tune - not many bother with that and
>>pay the consequences down the road by having to go for a re-fret.
>>Just my 2 cents.
>
>This is good advice, with one caveat Getting the frets re-crowned (aka "gound
>and polished" , "dressed") won't save you from having to refret down the
>road.
>Frets wear out from use over time, whether you dress them or not. In fact,
>dressing them actually slightly accelerates the erosion process, though it's
>still worth doing for the playability and intonation benefits. Otherwise, I
>heartily agree that getting a new guitar properly set up is key. If you've
>never had a competent set-up done, you'll be amazed at how much it can
>improve
>the playability of a guitar.
>
>John
I'd agree with John from what I know. My repair guy actually has told me that
if the frets are worn consistently (if you wear down all the frets and notes
more or less evenly, meaning you play all over the neck as opposed to just in
the first few positions) that you can get away a lot longer without crowning
the frets. That way, the playing surface is still staying more or less level.
If you never use the top frets, like on a guitar with no cutaway, this wouldn't
work as well.
I'd also add that I've always been amazed at how few guitar players take the
time and effort to learn how to set up their own instruments. It's not that
hard to do, provided you learn correct information. Granted, acoustic and
acoustic/electric instruments can be more tricky, but I think just about anyone
with a slight bit of "handy-ness" can easily learn how to adjust action,
intonation, pickup height, ect.
Tom Lippincott
TomLippinc
>: >to have it setup for you're playing style by a good luthier. I'd
>: never had a competent set-up done, you'll be amazed at how much it can
>improve
>: the playability of a guitar.
>
>
>here. I've had rather a frustrating experience, once.
><
One other thing I forgot about; who better than you will know exactly how you
like your guitar set up?
Tom Lippincott
Steve
compared to the ES-175.
I have an H-575 Custom I bought about 3 months ago. Extremely well built!
I almost shit myself
the first time I plugged it in! Very warm voice like tone.
Steve
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Geordie F.O. Kelly
I agree with you 100%!! (I just wasn't able to convey it with as much
ooomph!). My H575 is my favorite guitar.
Geordie F.O. Kelly