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Cliff

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Feb 14, 2008, 10:17:02 AM2/14/08
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A while ago I bought Kenny Burrell's Midnight Blue and I really like
it. The heads are recognisable and I can work them out :-) I find his
crisp and clear solo playing is also ideal for a learner like me to
pick up licks from. Of course it's also great music to listen too.

Can anyone point me in the direction of similar style Burrel
recordings. I'm particularly interested in his playing with small
groups, as on this album. Is there anything out there with a similar
feel but maybe more ii V I changes.

Thanks, Cliff

PS. I've been trying to work out the changes to the B section of the
track Midnight Blue. The top end of the last three chords seem to be
Dbmaj7, Cbmaj7, C7 ish maybe +5. I'm pleased with how it's sounding
but that's one mad mix of notes for a tune in F minor. Have I missed
something simple or are they just highly extended versions of some
dom7 chord with I should be naming from the bass note?

Keith Freeman

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Feb 14, 2008, 10:34:23 AM2/14/08
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> Can anyone point me in the direction of similar style Burrel
> recordings. I'm particularly interested in his playing with small
> groups, as on this album. Is there anything out there with a similar
> feel but maybe more ii V I changes.
Where to start? - there are so many! In fact Midnite Blue only scratches
the surface of Kenny's art, as he's in a sort of BB King mode on that one,
whereas he's capable of tearing it up in bebop style (At the Five Spot) as
well as being the most sensitive ballad player bar none.

All his trio recordings are excellent, then there's all the stuff he did
with Jimmy Smith as leader (Standards is a nice early one). I don't
normally recommend compilations, but KB and the Jazz Giants is superb.

Perhaps the best thing would be to look out for recordings that include
tunes you're familiar with and see how he handles them.

-Keith

Clips, Portable Changes, tips etc.: www.keithfreemantrio.nl
e-mail: info AT keithfreemantrio DOT nl

woland99

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Feb 14, 2008, 10:46:21 AM2/14/08
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On Feb 14, 9:17 am, Cliff <cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk>
wrote:

go to pandora.com register and create Kenny Burrell station -
then rate the tracks you will hear - you can very quickly get
few new names in the exact style you like.

Cliff

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Feb 14, 2008, 10:55:09 AM2/14/08
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Thanks for the suggestions. As you've probably guessed, I'm looking
for music I'll enjoy listening too but, that is not too complex for me
to learn from. Expect his bebop playing would be way above me. I can
see why you call Midnite Blue his BB King style - very bluesy and most
tunes are based on changes even I find very simple.

The compilation would be a very good idea if it's tracks taken from
other albums.

Cheers, Cliff

335p...@gmail.com

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Feb 14, 2008, 10:57:03 AM2/14/08
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On Feb 14, 9:17 am, Cliff <cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk>
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I like the Lotus Blossom CD from the mid 90s. Beautiful, laid back
playing with killer tone. It has a mix of solo, duo and trios and he
makes good use of steel string on a few tunes. I also like the Kenny
Burrell and John Coltrane CD which is more hard bop. Kenny played in a
more aggressive single note style in his early career and moved toward
a more laid back chordal approach later on.

Cliff

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Feb 14, 2008, 11:10:28 AM2/14/08
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> few new names in the exact style you like.- Hide quoted text -
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I love Pandora, last year that's just what I would of done, but I'm in
the UK. They couldn't get a licence at a sensible price so, they had
to shut down their UK service. Such a shame. It's one of the best
ideas I've seen in years :-(

Thanks for the thought, Cliff

Kevin Van Sant

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Feb 14, 2008, 11:15:21 AM2/14/08
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:17:02 -0800 (PST), Cliff
<cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk> wrote in message
<37d008b3-6004-4110...@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> :

>A while ago I bought Kenny Burrell's Midnight Blue and I really like
>it. The heads are recognisable and I can work them out :-) I find his
>crisp and clear solo playing is also ideal for a learner like me to
>pick up licks from. Of course it's also great music to listen too.
>
>Can anyone point me in the direction of similar style Burrel
>recordings. I'm particularly interested in his playing with small
>groups, as on this album. Is there anything out there with a similar
>feel but maybe more ii V I changes.
>
>Thanks, Cliff

So many really, but here are a few other early Burrells you should
also enjoy:

at the five spot
Live at the Village Vanguard 1959
Blue Lights Vol 1&2
Kenny Burrell

>
>PS. I've been trying to work out the changes to the B section of the
>track Midnight Blue. The top end of the last three chords seem to be
>Dbmaj7, Cbmaj7, C7 ish maybe +5. I'm pleased with how it's sounding
>but that's one mad mix of notes for a tune in F minor. Have I missed
>something simple or are they just highly extended versions of some
>dom7 chord with I should be naming from the bass note?


Your ears guided you to the right sounding chords but remember that
any grip can be given a variety of names depending on context. If it
doesn't make sense to you the way you first name them, look for
alternatives that make more sense. The bass line can usually clue you
in to the roots. In this context the Dbmaj7 is actually Bbm9 and the
Cbmaj7 is Abm9.

I think KB starts with a C7b9#5 voicing to phrase the last part of the
melody
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Cliff

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Feb 14, 2008, 11:15:24 AM2/14/08
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> a more laid back chordal approach later on.- Hide quoted text -

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Cheers. I was wondering about the album with Coltrane. I'm also a
Coltrane fan (who isn't) so it's good to hear that one recommended.

Cliff

Max

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Feb 14, 2008, 11:45:04 AM2/14/08
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My favorite Kenny Burrell album is Jimmy Smith's "Softly as a morning
Sunrise" which is organ trio with Philly Joe Jones on drums. Great,
great playing by Kenny, especially on it could happen to you and
Hackensack.

vmagn...@netscape.net

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Feb 14, 2008, 12:01:50 PM2/14/08
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Check out Ike Quebec's "Soul Samba" - with KB, reminds me a lot fo
Midnight Blue. Sort of the bossa Mid Blue. Same size group, same
late night vibe. "Introducing Kenny Burrell" (someone mentioned?) is
great. Coltrane I used to have on a two-fer LP , the other was Tommy
Flanagan record called "The Cats" I think, same personnel.

B section of MidBlue I play:

Bbmin (or Gmin7b5) | C7 | Fmin | Bb7
Bbmin7 | Abmin7 | Gmin7b5 C7 | Fmin (C7)

Or some similar turnaround for the last two bars.

Vic

charles robinson

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Feb 14, 2008, 12:28:51 PM2/14/08
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The classic release to listen to for KB's blues style is Jimmy Smith's "
Home Cookin' "
http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/6750674/a/Home+Cookin.htm
If you liked Midnight Blue you will like this also.
Charlie

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charles robinson

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Feb 14, 2008, 12:42:22 PM2/14/08
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You will also get your 2/5s slowed down on tunes like "Since I Fell For
You".
Charlie

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pmfan57

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Feb 14, 2008, 1:23:25 PM2/14/08
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On Feb 14, 10:17 am, Cliff <cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk>
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My favorite has alway been his Live album at the Vanguard with Roy
Haynes and Richard Davis. At one time it was called "Men at Work".
It has "Broadway," "Soft Winds," "Just Sittin and a Rockin'." Really
a great album.

RTFirefly

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Feb 14, 2008, 1:43:07 PM2/14/08
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On Feb 14, 3:17 pm, Cliff <cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk>
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Cliff
Sorry if I am repeating something that has already been said (stuck
for time). Kenny is one of the great 'keepers of the flame' of the
Duke Ellington legacy. You may have noticed that most of his records
have at least one Duke or Billy Strayhorn tune. He recorded a couple
of CD's, that I think are available on emusic, with a roll call of
great jazz musicians, some ex-Ellington band members and many people
mentioned albums suggested on this thread. If you want the essence of
what Kenny Burrell is about check these out - a masterclass in
tastefull solo lines and comping and the heart of what these tunes
mean to people who love jazz. The bonus is a injection into the heart
of the core jazz songbook.
Chris

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Feb 14, 2008, 2:12:52 PM2/14/08
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On Feb 14, 7:55 am, Cliff <cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk>
wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions. As you've probably guessed, I'm looking
> for music I'll enjoy listening too but, that is not too complex for me
> to learn from. Expect his bebop playing would be way above me. I can
> see why you call Midnite Blue his BB King style - very bluesy and most
> tunes are based on changes even I find very simple.
>
> The compilation would be a very good idea if it's tracks taken from
> other albums.
>
> Cheers, Cliff

Cliff,

Have you heard "Soul Call"? Nice album and similar group format to
Midnight Blue sans tenor saxophone.

In addition to his great trio albums recorded live, I like "Tin Tin
Deo" and "When Lights Are Low".

One album that doesn't get mentioned too often (but one I listen to a
lot) is "Round Midnight". I particularly like the sound of his guitar
with the Fender Rhodes piano on this album. We have borrowed his
versions of "Make Someone Happy" and "I Think It's Going To Rain
Today".

Darryl

Elektrik Hendrik

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Feb 14, 2008, 6:58:41 PM2/14/08
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I have an old LP from the 60's called 'The Tender Gender' which has
some of his nicest archtop-to-Twin tones and also contains one of the
most beautiful solo guitar pieces ever: 'People'
Not sure if this album has been re-released on CD.

Round Midnight is pretty good too.

Peter

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Feb 14, 2008, 10:57:39 PM2/14/08
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I, too, like the Lotus Blossom CD. Very chilled out and tasteful.
Another CD that you can actually sleep to is one called Standards with
Jimmy Smith. Not that this is what you are looking for ---- music to
go to sleep to ---- but it is very cool.

Laissez-faire

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Feb 15, 2008, 5:19:44 AM2/15/08
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Amazon now sells mp3 tracks and albums:

Here 37 Kenny Burrell albums

http://tinyurl.com/3b5ydq


Cliff

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Feb 15, 2008, 5:27:57 AM2/15/08
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On 14 Feb, 16:15, Kevin Van Sant <kvans...@pobox.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:17:02 -0800 (PST), Cliff<cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk>  wrote in message
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> <37d008b3-6004-4110-9359-c4c0afe31...@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> :

Thanks for the suggestions and the feedback on the chord names. I've
been back to this tune quite a few times trying to figure that B
section. Sounds like it's about there now so, now I just gotta try and
figure why or how it works :-)

Cliff

Cliff

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Feb 15, 2008, 5:30:37 AM2/15/08
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Most of those chords match what I've got :-)
I never actual though of the last two bars as a turnaround. Thanks

Cliff

vmagn...@netscape.net

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On Feb 15, 5:30 am, Cliff <cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk>
wrote:
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There are sort of different changes for those last 2 bars during the
head, and for solos. At least the way I play it! During solos I tend
to do the last 2 bars as just Gmin7b5 for a measure, C7 for a measure,
give myself a little more space for the line. I think during the
melody it resolves to the Fmin where I put it before. And in measures
4 and 5 of the B section you can do ii-V's, Bbmin7 - Eb7| Abmin7-Db7.
It's kind of a typical hard-bop type progression, similar to
"Moanin'", stuff like that.

Vic

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