Anyone using a tremconverter?
Jack A. Zucker
Any thoughts?
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"JimmyD" <jim.do...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 14:53:00 -0500, "Jack A. Zucker"
> <j...@jackzucker.com> wrote:
>
>>http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailpieces/Electric_guitar_tremolo_parts/Tremconverter.html
>>
>>Any thoughts?
>
> I'm waiting on this
> http://www.tremol-no.com/
>
> Jim
Joey Goldstein
Fender was marketing for a while. I use them on all my guitars that have
whammy bars, except that none of my guitars these days have a whammy bar anymore.
They basically add some tension to the springs in such a way that you
still have a floating bridge and can do both upwards and downwards moves
with the whammy bar. You can do simple country-ish double-stops with one
note bent and stay relatively in-tune. There is a center point that the
bridge always returns to after using the whammy bar. Tuning stability is
enhanced a bit too. It has to be set up right for any of the above to
work, and setting it up right takes some practice and patience.
The down-side is that pushing down on the bar, for dive-bombs, requires
more pressure and little shimmers with the bar are harder to execute.
Upward pull on the bar is not affected though.
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Jack A. Zucker
the "feel" of the stock trem. I'm going to put one in my maple neck strat
and see if I can get used to it. That's the guitar I'd more likely be doing
2 note bends on.
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harryj
> Fender was marketing for a while. I use them on all my guitars that have
> whammy bars, except that none of my guitars these days have a whammy bar
> anymore.
>
> They basically add some tension to the springs in such a way that you
> still have a floating bridge and can do both upwards and downwards moves
> with the whammy bar. You can do simple country-ish double-stops with one
> note bent and stay relatively in-tune. There is a center point that the
> bridge always returns to after using the whammy bar. Tuning stability is
> enhanced a bit too. It has to be set up right for any of the above to
> work, and setting it up right takes some practice and patience.
>
> The down-side is that pushing down on the bar, for dive-bombs, requires
> more pressure and little shimmers with the bar are harder to execute.
> Upward pull on the bar is not affected though.
>
> "Jack A. Zucker" wrote:
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Joey,
It's a totally different animal from the tremsetter.
No counter spring on these things. They lock the bridge in the stable in
tune position.
HJ
Bill Ribas
or the like in the body that isn't already there. check here -
http://www.tremol-no.com/comparison.asp
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Jack A. Zucker
guitar. I guess I'll wait for it...
Joey Goldstein
harryj wrote:
>
>
> Joey,
>
> It's a totally different animal from the tremsetter.
> No counter spring on these things. They lock the bridge in the stable in
> tune position.
Ah. OK. My bad.
Still, I like the functions of the Tremsetter better.
I'd be real surprised if you can use this thumbwheel thing to go from
floater to hard-tail without having to fine tune again though. And it
doesn't look sturdy enough to really impart the stability or even the
feeling of stability of a real hard--tail bridge. Of course I could be wrong.
Still... not for me.
harryj
Joey,
Perhaps not for you, but once again not correct info.
I am a beta tester for the Tremol-No and have been using it for months.
It works, locks in tune no tweaks. Is stable. I would suspect that if I
locked it and pushed the bar with all my strength, it would slip, or strip
the screws... I don't know... I have no intention of ever trying that.
Able to change from floating to locked in 2-3 seconds
Very simple device. Have no idea when it will be available to purchase.
should be in the $60.00 range app.
HJ
Greger Hoel
wrote:
>I am a beta tester for the Tremol-No and have been using it for months.
>It works, locks in tune no tweaks. Is stable.
If it is, it's no small feat of engineering. Does anybody remember the
Wilkinson VS100 model that locked the bridge when you let go of the
tremolo bar? I was shopping for a Carvin with that system back then,
but when I asked the importer, he said they didn't take guitars with
the locking VS100 as they'd never stay perfectly in tune when you
dropped the bar.
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harryj wrote:
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> "Joey Goldstein" <nos...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > harryj wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Joey,
> >>
> >> It's a totally different animal from the tremsetter.
> >> No counter spring on these things. They lock the bridge in the stable in
> >> tune position.
> >
> > Ah. OK. My bad.
> >
> > Still, I like the functions of the Tremsetter better.
> >
> > I'd be real surprised if you can use this thumbwheel thing to go from
> > floater to hard-tail without having to fine tune again though. And it
> > doesn't look sturdy enough to really impart the stability or even the
> > feeling of stability of a real hard--tail bridge. Of course I could be
> > wrong.
> >
> > Still... not for me.
> >
> > --
> > Joey Goldstein
> > http://www.joeygoldstein.com
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> Joey,
>
> Perhaps not for you, but once again not correct info.
What was not correct info?
> I am a beta tester for the Tremol-No and have been using it for months.
Ah. Well I was talking about the thing at Stew-Mac.
> It works, locks in tune no tweaks.
Really. I'll have to see that myself to believe it.
> Is stable. I would suspect that if I
> locked it and pushed the bar with all my strength, it would slip, or strip
> the screws... I don't know... I have no intention of ever trying that.
Sounds good.
Does it allow for pedal-steel-ish double stops with one note bent while
still in "Trem-mode" too, like the Trem-Setter does?
> Able to change from floating to locked in 2-3 seconds
> Very simple device. Have no idea when it will be available to purchase.
> should be in the $60.00 range app.
>
> HJ
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harryj
still in "Trem-mode" too, like the Trem-Setter does?
No, it only locks the bridge. I also have a tremsetter on 1 of my guitars
for that. I believe I read a post by the creator of the Tremol-No, that it
would be possible to use both at the same time. There is some shorter
version of the tremsetter or something. That would be pretty cool.
HJ
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icarusi
> The down-side is that pushing down on the bar, for dive-bombs, requires
> more pressure and little shimmers with the bar are harder to execute.
> Upward pull on the bar is not affected though.
There's always a mid position 'notch' to the feeling of the trem, so it's
not easy to do the classic 'wobble', although dips, divebombs and upbends
are no problem. Ibanez fit one (a 'stabilizer') as standard to one of their
guitars. The one with the circular bearing pivots.
Icarusi
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I think Harry J was trying one of those...Reports
seemed favorable..
MK
Don Evans
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Yeah, he showed it to me .... slick, to say the least. He's not
exaggerating when he says it takes a couple of seconds to change the
setting.
Don
marc...@planet.nl
Good day to you all. I am the inventor and producer of Tremconverter:
please visit: www.tremconveter.com or www.dircksons.com for info about
it.
Anyone who has questions please ask, and I'll be happy to answer the
best I can.
Marcel
marc...@planet.nl
Good day to you all. I am the inventor and producer of Tremconverter:
please visit: www.tremconverter.com or www.dircksons.com for info about
harryj
The one that I showed you was the Tremol-No, not the Tremsetter
Hope all is well with you bud
HarryJ
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Jack A. Zucker
have to do any drilling or permanent mods. I can't wait to check one out.
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Nobody
Jack A. Zucker wrote:
> The thing that's appealing about the tremel-no is the fact that you don't
> have to do any drilling or permanent mods. I can't wait to check one out.
Jack, are you trying to stop upward or downward throw?
Jack A. Zucker
bends ala Albert Lee, Larry Carlton or Brent Mason including being able to
have a ringing bass note with the other 2 bent notes not causing the bent
note to go flat.
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Don Evans
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> The one that I showed you was the Tremol-No, not the Tremsetter
> Hope all is well with you bud
>
> HarryJ
>
Yeah, I know ... sometimes attributions get messed up. That's the one I was
talking about .. the Tremol-no. I think that was what MK was referring to
as well. Things are pretty good for January. ;-) What's up with winter?
They call it off or what?
Don
Don Evans
hardtail. Not sure about up only .. not sure why you'd want that.
Don
harryj
"icarusi" <icar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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This can certainly be true for the tremsetter. The other devices are
designed to simply lock down the bridge
HJ
>
>
icarusi
icarusi
> bends ala Albert Lee, Larry Carlton or Brent Mason including being able to
> have a ringing bass note with the other 2 bent notes not causing the bent
> note to go flat.
AFAICS it doesn't fully 'lock/unlock' without access to the rear cavity to
turn one or more of the knurled locking screws. OTOH it looks like it can be
set for precise returns from downbends only. Schaller did a surface mounted
anchor for the trem arm itself, but it was poorly implemented and flexure in
the trem arm was sufficient to flatten the fretted note of a faux steel bend
double-stop. The Steinberger 'clip' system works and can be made more
accessible with a bit of terminal strip and bent wire, providing the guitar
has a Steinberger style trem with locking clip.
A reasonable compromise is to use 4 stiffish springs, a loose claw setting,
so the trem floats, and do as much as possible to anchor the springs rigidly
at both ends.