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Beware of recent Ibanez JSM100

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DaveB

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Jan 15, 2009, 8:02:04 PM1/15/09
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A couple months ago I posted about having a problem with dead notes on a new
Ibanez JSM100 (John Scofield model) and Musicians Friend refusing to take it
back because I was past thier 10 day limit. Since then I sent it to Ibanez
under warranty. They sent me a new one. It had the same problem. I sent that
one back under warranty. Got a call from Ibanez last week saying that all of
the ones they have at the service center have the same problem! They told MF
friend to refund me the money. MF called me and said they'd process the
credit sometime next week as soon as they sort out the paper work I guess.

It's a long sorted story starting last October. MF did give me $75 back in
November to help defer shipping costs and cost of having a tech try to fix
the first one but I'm still down about $70. Cost $55 to ship the thing to
Ibanez each time. I feel like I walked into the wrong bar and a couple guys
took me out back to the alley and pounded me, and robbed me!

Really thought long and hard on the JSM100. Spent more on it than any other
guitar ever. Always had good luck with Ibanez in the past. Had a GB10 for a
while which was excellent but I didn't really like the smaller body. May
consider a GB200 but now I'm spooked. Besides they are pricy now... $3000
street price.

Anyway... beware if you consider getting a JSM100 new. If I was John
Scofield I wouldn't want my name on the things they are shipping today.


sheetsofsound

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Jan 15, 2009, 8:10:43 PM1/15/09
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Try a Sadowsky Semi, Gibson 339 or Eastman semi.

I bought a recent (2008) Ibanez GB-10 and it's flawless so their
quality is still high.

Lun

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Jan 15, 2009, 8:16:24 PM1/15/09
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Yeah, my scofield had the same problem. Don't sound that fantastic
too, but the rockers that tried it loved it through their effects.

Lun

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Jan 15, 2009, 8:17:26 PM1/15/09
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My moffa semi is coming soon. Will tell you guys about it!


YL

David J. Littleboy

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Jan 15, 2009, 8:25:25 PM1/15/09
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"Lun" <nul...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, my scofield had the same problem. Don't sound that fantastic
> too, but the rockers that tried it loved it through their effects.

That makes sense. Sco isn't known for getting the Matt Otten sound out of
that guitar...

--
David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan


Marc Why

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Jan 15, 2009, 8:34:53 PM1/15/09
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On Jan 15, 5:17 pm, Lun <nulg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My moffa semi is coming soon. Will tell you guys about it!
>
> YL

Ooh, nice! Those are beautiful guitars. You must be in Europe or
somewhere -- with the US/Euro exchange being so bad, the Moffa's are
too expensive.

Please let us know when you get it!

Peace,

Marc
http://www.myspace.com/marcwhygroup

Lun

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Jan 15, 2009, 10:12:16 PM1/15/09
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Although the exchange rate is not that favourable, you should ask for
his price list, you may be pleasantly surprised.


YL

pmfan57

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Jan 15, 2009, 11:55:45 PM1/15/09
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I have the original AS-200 that I used to gig with in the 80's. That
to this day it's one of the sweetest playing guitars I've ever owned.
All the Ibanez pro-model (i.e., made in Japan) guitars are fantastic,
I guess with the exception of your model for some reason.

DaveB

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Jan 16, 2009, 2:58:04 PM1/16/09
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"pmfan57" <jwra...@aol.com> wrote in message
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My experience with Ibanez products has always been very good also. That's
why I was fairly confident buying this through MF. I'm in Iowa and it's hard
to find anything like this in the area so online is often the best option.
But I'm just astounded at this. I have never seen this type of problem to
this degree in a $200 guitar much less a $2000 guitar. Also, I can accept
that one or even two have a manufactuing defect, but all of them?!
Something ain't right with the universe.


sheetsofsound

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Jan 16, 2009, 6:45:46 PM1/16/09
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On Jan 16, 2:58 pm, "DaveB" <davidbross...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> "pmfan57" <jwrag...@aol.com> wrote in message

i've heard that musicians friend cuts deals with the manufacturers to
get cheaper instruments that either have not gone through full quality
control and/or even unmarked seconds. This is what many big box stores
do with tvs, tools, etc. If you buy a Bosch drill from sears for
example, it has cheaper brushes and other internal motor parts.
Wouldn't surprise me at all to find out musicians friend is doing the
same thing with the volume of gear they can move.

jazzgeetar

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Jan 18, 2009, 10:31:59 AM1/18/09
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Just a general FYI for Ibanez ordering in case it's helpful...

If you want to buy Ibanez and skip the Musicians Friend route, you can
buy an Ibanez from Chesbro music. Chesbro is one of the two american
Ibanez distributors (Hoshino being the other). I ordered my AK105sm
from them since they're bound to have the limited edition models when
MF doesn't carry them.

-Dan

DaveB

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Jan 18, 2009, 2:46:07 PM1/18/09
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"jazzgeetar" <jazzg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Thanks for the tip Dan. I didn't know this before this experience (and still
did not know about Chesbro) but I did learn about Hoshino because that's
where I had to send the guitar (twice!) for warranty service. I had to call
them once and the recording had an option to have a catelog sent. :-)


brian...@gmail.com

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Aug 4, 2017, 5:08:16 PM8/4/17
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I have three AS200's and a jsm100. All fantastic guitars. Much much better than my 335. Never had any problems. Not even with the cheaper models. You have just been very very unlucky!

bobhess

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Aug 5, 2017, 1:00:37 AM8/5/17
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Caveat emptor /ˌkævɛɑːt ˈɛmptɔːr/ is Latin for "Let the buyer beware"
Never buy a guitar that you have not played.
You can save a shit load of money by buying used.

Tim McNamara

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Aug 5, 2017, 2:46:36 PM8/5/17
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On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 22:00:34 -0700 (PDT), bobhess <bob_h...@yahoo.com>
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> On Thursday, January 15, 2009 at 8:02:04 PM UTC-5, DaveB wrote:
^^^^

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