Guitar tuner recommendations
VA3UX
My main interest here is setting intonation since I don't a tuner to
otherwise "tune" a guitar.
Many thanks in advance
Phil
Rick Ross
speaker with a 1/4" input you can plug your guitar in and mix the
signals...excellent practice tool...pricey at over $100..but you won't grow
out of it..
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Kurt Shapiro
metronome combo. It was about $30.
For setting intonation and getting really serious about it, I'd probably
look at one of those new Peterson pseudo-strobes. My luthier just bought
one and he loves it. I think they run around $250.
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omer k
chromatic tuner that has an instrument jack and a microphone thing to
tune a voice or horn with.
It also has a feature that lets the pitch be changed slightly. If you
like the pitch a little flat you can put it on A338,339,etc. or keep
it at 440 or make it sharp. I've had mine for over a year without any
problems. There is also a Korg tuner that has the pitches of the open
strings on it. It is 15 or 20 dollars, but I would definately go for a
chromatic tuner instead.
Bob Agnew
devation calibrated in cents in scale divisions of 10 cents. I can very
easily see deviations as small as +/- 1 cent. ( There are 100 cents in an
even tempered semitone). It can be found for about $90 on the Web.
Some Guitar Techs like to use Strobscopic tuners for setting intonation but
they are much more costly. Apparently they are harder to use too because
the tech that used one on my guitar had it all wrong.
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Adam Gottschalk
I've tried many tuners in my day. I currently own a Peterson VS-1, which
is a helluva tuner, but it's $200 that's probably better spent. I cannot
recommend more highly the Sabine STX-1100. It rocks in every way it
could. It's an excellent use for $50. It's very compact and has two
metal clips to attach the unit to music stand; clips tuck away neatly
when not in use and they work perfectly. Every note (12) has its own LED
light so you can use the thing in pitch black and from a distance;
natural pitches are green, with accidentals in red. The up/down LEDs are
yellow, and they blink slower and slower the closer to in-tune you get.
There's another green LED top center for in-tune. Very wide range; I
tune the low B on bass no problem. Tweakable A pitch, etc. Made in
America no less. 5 thumbs up.
Pt
Pt
kevin coffey
I also like the Boss TU12. You plug it in-line to the amp, and, if
you are a compulsive tuner like me, you can finally feel that your
notes are true!
Kewvin Coffey
Christophe Pinson
>I would like suggestions for a capable, decent quality electronic tuner.
>My main interest here is setting intonation since I don't a tuner to
>otherwise "tune" a guitar.
>
I just got a second hand Fender PT10 starge tuner, with a mute out.
Haven't used it yet. Seems nice for quick stage tuning, but it seems
you can't change the A pitch... And my sax usually plays at 442 Hz ...
DBrophy479
>I also like the Boss TU12.
Thirded.I wouldn't buy anything cheaper.The relatively new TU15 is the same
tuner,but has a switch to light up the needle area.And the front is slanted,so
if you lay it flat you don't have to lean over it as much.
I tried to skimp with a Korg CA-30 and it drove me nuts.The electronic
simulation of a needle action is less than realistic.Not responsive enough,and
I had to baby the goddamn thing to get in tune.
I've had two TU12's that each survived 10 years of steady gigging.
Joey Goldstein
These days they're all pretty good.
But I've had trouble in the past with tuners that use an analog VU
meter, i.e. with the mechanical pointer needle.
I've found that unless these tuners are completely upright that gravity
affects the needle position.
I've got an old Seiko tuner that is terrible in this regard and this was
also an issue with both Boss TU-12's I have owned.
Nowadays I look for tuners that have electrical indicators rather than
analog VU meter needles.
For my students I use the Boss tuner pedal because my students were
always breaking the jacks on the TU-12's. I must have resoldered those
input jacks 20 times before those tuners died, and die they did. The
Boss pedal is really sturdy. It goes through batteries real fast though
and you have to wait about 5 seconds after turning it on until you can
use it. Also I don't think it has a very fine sensitivity. This makes it
real useful on a gig for quick tune-ups but might not be ideal for doing intonation.
I also have a Seiko ST777 Chromatic Tuner now. It has a VU meter but it
is done electronically on an LCD type window. It is not affected by
gravity and has a very fine sensitivity. I use it for more demanding
tuning situations.
Andy Reiss
I'll second the Korg CA 30, very accurate, very cheap, or even it's
older cousin, the CA 20. Problem is that they're easy to lose and very
popular, so I bought a bunch of them and wrote my bame on 'em--had a
couple find me after leaving them in studios!
Rick Handel
sgcim
I also use a Boss TU12, but was wondering which is a more accurate way
of tuning with it- playing the open string, or playing a harmonic on
the 12th fret.
I've noticed that it seems to register as a much more steady pitch
when I use harmonics.
Max Leggett
> I've noticed that it seems to register as a much more steady pitch
>when I use harmonics.
Fewer overtones, so a purer note.
Adam Gottschalk
hepkatre...@hotmail.com (Max Leggett) wrote:
> > I've noticed that it seems to register as a much more steady pitch
> >when I use harmonics.
>
> Fewer overtones, so a purer note.
In my experience, though a given tuner may register more steadily with a
harmonic, using harmonics alone to tune is a bad idea...unless of course
you plan on playing all in harmonics :-)
Max Leggett
I'll go along with that. My preference is to get my A string zut on,
checking against both the open string and the 12th fret harmonic, and
tuning the other strings to that A. So, 7th fret D, 2d fret G against
the A string; then check the B and the E strings against the D and G.
I'll double check the 5th fret high E against the 5th fret harmonic A,
but my concern is that the guitar be in tune with itself across and up
and down the fingerboard. I find that if I tune the open strings to a
tuner, it's not balanced, not right. That might be due to the wax
build-up in [and bertween] my ears, but I prefer the sound of my
guitar tuned to a common note. The Freitin tuning system does
something similar, instructing one to tune all the Es - another way to
get a balance across and up and down the fingerboard.
Pt
<ad...@adamgottschalk.net> wrote:
I have to use 12th fret harmonics with a bass.
The Sabine won't read the low frequencies.
Pt
Bob Agnew
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Adam Gottschalk
Pt <notAva...@NoPlace.com> wrote:
> I have to use 12th fret harmonics with a bass.
> The Sabine won't read the low frequencies.
>
> Pt
My Sabine STX-1100 reads the low-B on my 5-string without hesitation.
Adam Gottschalk
hepkatre...@hotmail.com (Max Leggett) wrote:
Yeah, I usually use a tuner for a pitch I choose then go from there,
checking with open chords down low and cluster higher up, using the
tuner for those pesky pitches the brain seems not to hear sometimes. The
Peterson VS-1, which I have, has a number of different temperance (?)
settings; ones is specifically for guitar (exclusive to Peterson,
woo-hoo) but I have not necessarily found it to yield anything better
than standard or my ears.
Joey Goldstein
With fresh strings the 12th fret harmonic and the open note should be
exactly the same pitch just 1 octave apart. When the strings get old
there might be some difference between the two.
Don't use the 7th fret harmonic because it is not compatible with 12
tone equal temperament.
> I've noticed that it seems to register as a much more steady pitch
> when I use harmonics.
True. On new strings tuning to the harmonic is easiest.
Sometimes when my strings get old and I'm not ready to put new ones on
I'll re-intonate the bridge saddles to play in tune with the old
strings, in which case it is a good idea not to use the harmonics when tuning.
tomw
says...
used to it. Have to learn the most optimal place to attach it, the best
way to pluck the note, etc. It's the one Kevin Eubanks promotes. It's
little, you can see it in the dark, costs $50, and works.
--
Tom Walls
the guy at the Temple of Zeus
http://www.arts.cornell.edu/zeus/
Pt
wrote:
>I'm very fond of my "Intellitouch" tuner. I admit that you have to get
>used to it. Have to learn the most optimal place to attach it, the best
>way to pluck the note, etc. It's the one Kevin Eubanks promotes. It's
>little, you can see it in the dark, costs $50, and works.
I have been considering on of them.
They look interesting.
I would be afraid of it falling off the headstock or bumping it in to
something.
Would it break easily?
Pt
Rick Handel
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The clamp is pretty secure and the tuner folds when not in use so that it's
barely sticking out from the headstock. I have it on the headstock all the
time. You just flip it open and tune in a few seconds between tunes or even
during a tune if you cut your volume.
tomw
notAva...@NoPlace.com says...
and the plastic lid on the battery broke. I liked it enough to buy a
second, and it's still okay after a couple of years.
Andy Reiss
way down. That makes the fundamental much stronger. When playing
electric, I usually tune notes across the 4th to 7th fret range, kind
of get an average between the range. If I'm doing an acoustic track in
the studio, I'll get the I chord perfect , and then get the 4 and 5 to
as close a compromise as I can.
Jim Kangas
gigs - no wires, lights up in the dark, and... close enough for jazz
;-)
Prior to that I used the Sabine STX-1xxx(?). It seemed to be really
sluggish at times - maybe it was a low battery. But it was okay.
-Jim
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Norman Karin
about half the time it doesn't seem to register the low E properly,
telling me that it's a B. Maybe I have to tweak the placement, as you
say.
Norm
Greger Hoel
>I would like suggestions for a capable, decent quality electronic tuner.
>My main interest here is setting intonation since I don't a tuner to
>otherwise "tune" a guitar.
>
>Many thanks in advance
I'd get the Korg tuner that can be set to the buzz Feiten intonation
offsets. I don't have a 'feitenized' guitar, but who knows what the
future might bring?
--
Greger
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Walter Campbell
wrote:
> I bought an Intellitouch about a week ago and mostly love it. However,
> about half the time it doesn't seem to register the low E properly,
> telling me that it's a B. Maybe I have to tweak the placement, as you
> say.
>
> Norm
>
Norm,
On several of my guitars I have to move the intellitouch around to a
different "sweet" spot to do low E through D versus the one that works
best for the G through high E.
That said, it's still my favorite gigging tuner. Small, easy to use
and you don't even have to be plugged in to anything to use it.
Walt Campbell
Campbell Sound
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tomw
> I bought an Intellitouch about a week ago and mostly love it. However,
> about half the time it doesn't seem to register the low E properly,
> telling me that it's a B. Maybe I have to tweak the placement, as you
> say.
>
> Norm
I get that a lot, too. Try softly plucking the note with your finger or
thumb.
tomw
wa...@starstream.net says...
> In article <400D6BDA...@udel.edu>, Norman Karin <nka...@udel.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > I bought an Intellitouch about a week ago and mostly love it. However,
> > about half the time it doesn't seem to register the low E properly,
> > telling me that it's a B. Maybe I have to tweak the placement, as you
> > say.
> >
> > Norm
> >
>
> Norm,
>
> On several of my guitars I have to move the intellitouch around to a
> different "sweet" spot to do low E through D versus the one that works
> best for the G through high E.
>
> That said, it's still my favorite gigging tuner. Small, easy to use
> and you don't even have to be plugged in to anything to use it.
>
> Walt Campbell
> Campbell Sound
> www.campbellsound.com
>
The battery seems to last forever, too. Knock on wood.
Kurt Shapiro
including the calibration, and has a metronome in it to boot.
I've got a CA-30 too, but it's no better than the tuner that came with the
MT9000. In fact, I think the detection is faster on the MT9000.
"omer k" <pako...@netzero.com> wrote in message
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> The Korg CA-30 is a decent tuner that costs about $30. It is a
> chromatic tuner that has an instrument jack and a microphone thing to
> tune a voice or horn with.
> It also has a feature that lets the pitch be changed slightly. If you
> like the pitch a little flat you can put it on A338,339,etc. or keep
> it at 440 or make it sharp. I've had mine for over a year without any
> problems. There is also a Korg tuner that has the pitches of the open
> strings on it. It is 15 or 20 dollars, but I would definately go for a
> chromatic tuner instead.
Eugel
They range so widely in cost, from $20 toys to thousand Petersons
and, I am sure, beyond.
Are the expensive models more "accurate" or "faster" ? Does it make that
much of a difference?
I mean, a tuner is a tuner is a tuner, right?
- Eugel
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NATHANIEL NAJAR
I can't believe how excellent it is. it is accurate, easy to see and VERY
quick to set up- no wires of microphones. Just clip it and tune, so it's
perfect for fast tuning between tunes if need be.
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www.natenajar.com
(727) 458-6023
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> I just bought a Sabine MT9000, which is your basic chromatic tuner and
> metronome combo. It was about $30.
>
> For setting intonation and getting really serious about it, I'd probably
> look at one of those new Peterson pseudo-strobes. My luthier just bought
> one and he loves it. I think they run around $250.
>
>
>
> "VA3UX" <va...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > I would like suggestions for a capable, decent quality electronic tuner.
> > My main interest here is setting intonation since I don't a tuner to
> > otherwise "tune" a guitar.
> >
> > Many thanks in advance
> >
> > Phil
> >
>
>
Stan Gosnell
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> I've often wondered what the differences are in tuners.
> They range so widely in cost, from $20 toys to thousand Petersons
> and, I am sure, beyond.
> Are the expensive models more "accurate" or "faster" ? Does it make
> that much of a difference?
> I mean, a tuner is a tuner is a tuner, right?
Pretty much. The expensive models should be more accurate, but that's not
the question. The question is, "Is more accuracy needed, or at least worth
paying for". And the answer, generally, is no. Given the intonation
inaccuracies you'll almost always see, and the difference in pitch that
temperature makes (the pitch of a string will change with only a degree or
so of temperature change), the pitch isn't going to be that accurate
anyway. People tuned by ear for years, and still do, and achieve perfectly
acceptable tuning. The pitch of a fretted note will vary with finger
pressure, whether there is any bending (there almost always is some), and
whether the strings are warming up from being played, or from the lights,
or whatever. It's impossible to get perfect tuning, since it's tempered
tuning anyway, nevermind the infinite number of variables.
Just tune the thing close enough. Perfection isn't achievable.
--
Regards,
Stan
Max Leggett
<nate...@verizon.net> wrote:
>I just got one of those "intellitouch" tuners that clips to your headstock.
>I can't believe how excellent it is. it is accurate, easy to see and VERY
>quick to set up- no wires of microphones. Just clip it and tune, so it's
>perfect for fast tuning between tunes if need be.
Glad to hear your recommendation - there have been so many good things
said about them that I got one on eBay for $28 incl shipping. Sure
beats paying $250. Hasn't arrived yet, so I'm all a-thither.
Adam Gottschalk
"Eugel" <clean_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I've often wondered what the differences are in tuners.
> They range so widely in cost, from $20 toys to thousand Petersons
> and, I am sure, beyond.
> Are the expensive models more "accurate" or "faster" ? Does it make that
> much of a difference?
> I mean, a tuner is a tuner is a tuner, right?
I have not found that to be the case. And degree of quality is not
necessarily dircectly proportionate to cost. A $200 Peterson VS-1 just
offers a completely different "tuning experience" than a typical LCD or
LED type tuner. As Stan says, in the end, you'll end up finding a note,
tuning your axe to it, then making sure you're in with the rest of the
band, regardless of what the hell your tuner says. I'm particularly
paranoid about tuning and always worried that others are glaring at me
(discreetly) because my B string isn't quite in tune or whatever. Again,
as Stan said, you're never really exactly in tune, that's just the
musical lot. Bill Frisell, for example, started waving his guitar neck
back and forth so the notes waver slightly back and forth across In-Tune
instead of all being slightly off (or so he says).
All that said, I've never been happier with another tuner than I am with
The Sabine STX-1100. LED lights for every note, quick, clear, easy to
read at a distance and in the dark (not true of all tuners by any
means), and with a trick set of clips built in for attaching to a music
stand (not an afterthought--they really work). I also own a Peterson
VS-1, which has numerous different tuning temperaments to choose from. I
use that at home and on the rare occasion I make an attempt to record
something.
Charlie Robinson
>>I can't believe how excellent it is. it is accurate, easy to see and VERY
>>quick to set up- no wires of microphones. Just clip it and tune, so it's
>perfect for fast tuning between tunes if need be.
>
>Glad to hear your recommendation - there have been so many good things
>said about them that I got one on eBay for $28 incl shipping. Sure
>beats paying $250. Hasn't arrived yet, so I'm all a-thither.
>
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A while back there were a lot of negative reports here about this tuner.I'm not
sure why,I couldn't live without mine now. But be careful it is so small that
you can misplace it easily. I used to walk around with mine in my pocket all of
the time.
Charlie Robinson Jazz Guitarist, Composer
You can hear me online at: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/robinsonchazz
or http://www.soundclick.com/bands/rmmgj_music.htm
tomw
hepkatre...@hotmail.com says...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 00:16:04 GMT, "NATHANIEL NAJAR"
> <nate...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >I just got one of those "intellitouch" tuners that clips to your headstock.
> >I can't believe how excellent it is. it is accurate, easy to see and VERY
> >quick to set up- no wires of microphones. Just clip it and tune, so it's
> >perfect for fast tuning between tunes if need be.
>
> Glad to hear your recommendation - there have been so many good things
> said about them that I got one on eBay for $28 incl shipping. Sure
> beats paying $250. Hasn't arrived yet, so I'm all a-thither.
It's so easy and convenient to use that I rarely play without tuning
first. I believe this has actually helped my ear. I've gotten so used
to playing in "good" tune, that it's easy to hear and identify when I'm
off.
Max Leggett
wrote:
That's why I got it - I have a Seiki tuner which is excellent, but I
have to plug the cable into it and turn it on, and it's just too
much!! LOL Having a tuner always on and always in position ....
mais oui!
Charlie Robinson
>mais oui!
>Max Leggett
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It's great!
thom_j
Boss TU-2 foot tuner? I am looking for a new tuner and I was quite
staisfied with the Boss TU-2 in the past.. Adam Or Anyone?
tia thom_j.