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sheetsofsound

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Jul 23, 2009, 6:43:49 AM7/23/09
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Does anyone make a piezo bridge to replace the prs hollowbody bridge?
I'm not interested in spending $500 for the prs version, plus i don't
want to cut the huge hole in the side for the big plastic panel.

Bill Ribas

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Jul 23, 2009, 9:46:15 AM7/23/09
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I know Fishman makes a tuneamatic (sp?) piezo, but I think that prs uses a
different bridge. I'd try them first though, maybe they have something in
the back room.

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Michael L Kankiewicz

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Jul 23, 2009, 10:14:30 AM7/23/09
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Is the CA honeymoon over?

:)

sheetsofsound

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Jul 23, 2009, 10:59:55 AM7/23/09
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On Jul 23, 10:14 am, Michael L Kankiewicz <micha...@buffalo.edu>
wrote:

> Is the CA honeymoon over?
>
> :)

no, it's pretty much all I play these days.

markkl...@hotmail.com

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Jul 23, 2009, 11:09:50 AM7/23/09
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Is this even possible with PRS parts? I wanted to upgrade mine a few
years ago and discussed with a really capable PRS dealer near where I
was living in Portland, ME, and was told flat out that a retrofit
couldn't be done due to the size of things inside the guitar. I never
pursued it after that and now that my Halfling has piezo bridge
(Ghost) I coulnd't live without it.

www.markkleinhaut.com

sheetsofsound

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Jul 23, 2009, 1:01:05 PM7/23/09
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thanks for the comments Mark. I wondered if you had looked into that.
It's too bad because other than the balance, the PRS Hollow guitars
are nearly perfect. I guess we'll have to take a few points off for
the bridge... :)

Gerry

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Jul 23, 2009, 1:22:28 PM7/23/09
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On 2009-07-23 10:01:05 -0700, sheetsofsound <jackz...@gmail.com> said:

> On Jul 23, 11:09�am, markkleinh...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Jul 23, 6:43�am, sheetsofsound <jackzuc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone make a piezo bridge to replace the prs hollowbody bridge?
>>> I'm not interested in spending $500 for the prs version, plus i don't
>>> want to cut the huge hole in the side for the big plastic panel.
>>
>> Is this even possible with PRS parts? I wanted to upgrade mine a few
>> years ago and discussed with a really capable PRS dealer near where I
>> was living in Portland, ME, and was told flat out that a retrofit
>> couldn't be done due to the size of things inside the guitar. �I never
>> pursued it after that and now that my Halfling has piezo bridge
>> (Ghost) I coulnd't live without it.

What is it that you like about the piezo?

> thanks for the comments Mark. I wondered if you had looked into that.
> It's too bad because other than the balance, the PRS Hollow guitars
> are nearly perfect. I guess we'll have to take a few points off for
> the bridge... :)

You mean it's physical balance neck to body?
--
Dogmatism kills jazz. Iconoclasm kills rock. Rock dulls scissors.

Jonathan (Cleve)

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Jul 23, 2009, 3:10:40 PM7/23/09
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On Jul 23, 11:09 am, markkleinh...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I wanted to upgrade mine a few
> years ago and discussed with a really capable PRS dealer near where I
> was living in Portland, ME, and was told flat out that a retrofit
> couldn't be done due to the size of things inside the guitar.  I never
> pursued it after that and now that my Halfling has piezo bridge
> (Ghost) I coulnd't live without it.


I called PRS asking the same question and they gave me the same answer.

sheetsofsound

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Jul 23, 2009, 4:42:28 PM7/23/09
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On Jul 23, 1:22 pm, Gerry <somewh...@sunny.calif> wrote:

> On 2009-07-23 10:01:05 -0700, sheetsofsound <jackzuc...@gmail.com> said:
>
> > On Jul 23, 11:09 am, markkleinh...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> On Jul 23, 6:43 am, sheetsofsound <jackzuc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Does anyone make a piezo bridge to replace the prs hollowbody bridge?
> >>> I'm not interested in spending $500 for the prs version, plus i don't
> >>> want to cut the huge hole in the side for the big plastic panel.
>
> >> Is this even possible with PRS parts? I wanted to upgrade mine a few
> >> years ago and discussed with a really capable PRS dealer near where I
> >> was living in Portland, ME, and was told flat out that a retrofit
> >> couldn't be done due to the size of things inside the guitar.  I never
> >> pursued it after that and now that my Halfling has piezo bridge
> >> (Ghost) I coulnd't live without it.
>
> What is it that you like about the piezo?

Since I'm playing almost exclusively finger-style (without nails) the
piezo just adds a beautiful, acoustic quality to the tone. Not so much
with the pick but with bare fingers it's just gorgeous.

> You mean it's physical balance neck to body?

Yeah, standing up the neck tends to "dive".

Gerry

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Jul 23, 2009, 4:59:32 PM7/23/09
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On 2009-07-23 13:42:28 -0700, sheetsofsound <jackz...@gmail.com> said:

>> What is it that you like about the piezo?
>
> Since I'm playing almost exclusively finger-style (without nails) the
> piezo just adds a beautiful, acoustic quality to the tone. Not so much
> with the pick but with bare fingers it's just gorgeous.

It's a curious thing how the audio out of a piezo has convinced us we
are listening to an acoustic. Most acoustic guitars are played with
piezo's now and my assumption is that they would sound the same whether
that acoustic and back and sides or not.

>> You mean it's physical balance neck to body?
>
> Yeah, standing up the neck tends to "dive".

What a shame. That reallly jacks with my left-hand "touch", as I feel
compelled to support it with my palm/thumb which really slows me down.

sheetsofsound

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Jul 23, 2009, 6:14:30 PM7/23/09
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On Jul 23, 4:59 pm, Gerry <somewh...@sunny.calif> wrote:

> On 2009-07-23 13:42:28 -0700, sheetsofsound <jackzuc...@gmail.com> said:
>
> >> What is it that you like about the piezo?
>
> > Since I'm playing almost exclusively finger-style (without nails) the
> > piezo just adds a beautiful, acoustic quality to the tone. Not so much
> > with the pick but with bare fingers it's just gorgeous.
>
> It's a curious thing how the audio out of a piezo has convinced us we
> are listening to an acoustic.  Most acoustic guitars are played with
> piezo's now and my assumption is that they would sound the same whether
> that acoustic and back and sides or not.
>
> >> You mean it's physical balance neck to body?
>
> > Yeah, standing up the neck tends to "dive".
>
> What a shame. That reallly jacks with my left-hand "touch", as I feel
> compelled to support it with my palm/thumb which really slows me down.

same here but depending on your physique and technique it may or may
not be an issue. If you were your guitar high it's less of an issue
too (which I do). However, in my case, I don't rest my right arm on
the guitar while I play so if there's any neck dive it's a constant
irritant. This particular guitar is a bit better balanced than other
prs hollowbodies I've played so there's some variation too depending
on wood densities I imagine.

moreyr...@shaw.ca

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Jul 23, 2009, 6:48:16 PM7/23/09
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Another advantage to the piezo in the PRS hollowbody is that the
heavier bridge, wiring and battery compartment adds weight to the body
which balances the guitar better - I found my hollowbody (and archtop
model when I had them) balanced much better than the non piezo
versions.

Gerry

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Jul 23, 2009, 8:16:57 PM7/23/09
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On 2009-07-23 15:14:30 -0700, sheetsofsound <jackz...@gmail.com> said:

>> What a shame. That reallly jacks with my left-hand "touch", as I feel
>> compelled to support it with my palm/thumb which really slows me down.
>
> same here but depending on your physique and technique it may or may
> not be an issue. If you were your guitar high it's less of an issue
> too (which I do). However, in my case, I don't rest my right arm on
> the guitar while I play so if there's any neck dive it's a constant
> irritant.

I wear my guitar quite high too so it's the same height as when I'm
seated. But I do hang my arm on the guitar. I can't imagine not doing
that. Let me know when you're ready to sell the video of your right
hand... ;-)

> This particular guitar is a bit better balanced than other
> prs hollowbodies I've played so there's some variation too depending
> on wood densities I imagine.

I know there are weights (someone mentioned it recently in rmmgj) that
one could put on the head-stock to help the weight going the other
direction.

sheetsofsound

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Jul 23, 2009, 9:26:30 PM7/23/09
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On Jul 23, 8:16 pm, Gerry <somewh...@sunny.calif> wrote:

> On 2009-07-23 15:14:30 -0700, sheetsofsound <jackzuc...@gmail.com> said:
>
> >> What a shame. That reallly jacks with my left-hand "touch", as I feel
> >> compelled to support it with my palm/thumb which really slows me down.
>
> > same here but depending on your physique and technique it may or may
> > not be an issue. If you were your guitar high it's less of an issue
> > too (which I do). However, in my case, I don't rest my right arm on
> > the guitar while I play so if there's any neck dive it's a constant
> > irritant.
>
> I wear my guitar quite high too so it's the same height as when I'm
> seated.  But I do hang my arm on the guitar.  I can't imagine not doing
> that. Let me know when you're ready to sell the video of your right
> hand... ;-)
>
> > This particular guitar is a bit better balanced than other
> > prs hollowbodies I've played so there's some variation too depending
> > on wood densities I imagine.
>
> I know there are weights (someone mentioned it recently in rmmgj) that
> one could put on the head-stock to help the weight going the other
> direction.

My CA guitar is EXTREMELY neck heavy. I've thought about sewing
weights into a strap to counter-balance that

Jonathan (Cleve)

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Jul 23, 2009, 9:31:58 PM7/23/09
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On Jul 23, 9:26 pm, sheetsofsound <jackzuc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My CA guitar is EXTREMELY neck heavy. I've thought about sewing

> weights into a strap to counter-balance that- Hide quoted text -
>

Ok, I give. I'll be the dope.

What's a CA guitar?

sheetsofsound

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Jul 23, 2009, 10:55:27 PM7/23/09
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Gerry

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Jul 24, 2009, 2:08:46 AM7/24/09
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On 2009-07-23 18:26:30 -0700, sheetsofsound <jackz...@gmail.com> said:

>> I know there are weights (someone mentioned it recently in rmmgj) that
>> one could put on the head-stock to help the weight going the other
>> direction.
>
> My CA guitar is EXTREMELY neck heavy. I've thought about sewing
> weights into a strap to counter-balance that

Invent something convenient to address that. Make a fortune. When
things are all worked out though, it will be like hefting a Les Paul
though...

sheetsofsound

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Jul 24, 2009, 6:00:15 PM7/24/09
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I called graphtech. They said their saddles fit the tonepros AVT II
but they didn't know if the tonepros prs wraparound bridge had the
same spacing. Anyone know?
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