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Audio Interface- Roland Octa-capture or RME Babyface?
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DeK
Jun 15, 2015, 11:30:27 AM6/15/15
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I would like to buy audio interface. I have a dilemma between Roland
Octa and RME Babyface.
It will be recorded jazz and acoustic guitar. It would be good if the
interface worked without problems with USB 3.0. Guitar plugged directly.
What do you recommend?
RME Babyface,
Roland Octa-Capture.
What are the advantages and disadvantages between them?
I want to buy used interface.
Octa and RME Babyface.
It will be recorded jazz and acoustic guitar. It would be good if the
interface worked without problems with USB 3.0. Guitar plugged directly.
What do you recommend?
RME Babyface,
Roland Octa-Capture.
What are the advantages and disadvantages between them?
I want to buy used interface.
Gerry
Jun 15, 2015, 1:52:05 PM6/15/15
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On 2015-06-15 15:28:39 +0000, DeK said:
> I would like to buy audio interface. I have a dilemma between Roland
> Octa and RME Babyface.
> It will be recorded jazz and acoustic guitar.
What will you use this device for? If only for input of guitar to a
> I would like to buy audio interface. I have a dilemma between Roland
> Octa and RME Babyface.
> It will be recorded jazz and acoustic guitar.
computer both devices are overkill.
The Roland UA-1010 Octa-Capture is a 10 input/10 output. RME is 12x12.
For guitar you only need one input.
> It would be good if the
> interface worked without problems with USB 3.0. Guitar plugged directly.
> What do you recommend?
> RME Babyface,
> Roland Octa-Capture.
compatible". I assume that means it's speed remains at 2.0 but it will
take a 3.0 plug. That's a guess.
> I want to buy used interface.
which is $99 and is limited to a single analog input.
For more inputs and outputs (2x4) you can get a Focusrite Scarlett 2i4
for $200. It's also USB 2.0.
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DeK
Jun 15, 2015, 5:02:21 PM6/15/15
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Gerry pisze:
Not only it is important to the number of inputs and outputs but also
the stability of the drivers and interface.
At the beginning I was going to buy the interface cheaper, but many of
them have annoying problems.
The differences at the level of the number of inputs and outputs are
obvious.
Certainly I need more than one input.
But in terms of the overall quality of the interface and its features.
I want to interface the possibility of connecting the two microphones.
So the choice a little more expensive interfaces are due to awareness of
the problems that arise in the case of cheaper interfaces. For $ 100 you
can buy a toy, not the interface.
the stability of the drivers and interface.
At the beginning I was going to buy the interface cheaper, but many of
them have annoying problems.
The differences at the level of the number of inputs and outputs are
obvious.
Certainly I need more than one input.
But in terms of the overall quality of the interface and its features.
I want to interface the possibility of connecting the two microphones.
So the choice a little more expensive interfaces are due to awareness of
the problems that arise in the case of cheaper interfaces. For $ 100 you
can buy a toy, not the interface.
Gerry
Jun 15, 2015, 5:10:40 PM6/15/15
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you have, but I know that M-Audio made good devices many years ago, but
never updated their drivers So over time time became a bad thing to
buy. No one can guess about support, but I certainly would tend to
believe Roland would be there for their users.
> At the beginning I was going to buy the interface cheaper, but many of
> them have annoying problems.
devices might annoy you and which might not.
> The differences at the level of the number of inputs and outputs are
> obvious.
> Certainly I need more than one input.
assume it would be one at a time.
> But in terms of the overall quality of the interface and its features.
>
> I want to interface the possibility of connecting the two microphones.
voices at the same time? If so you would likely need a 10x10 device,
but you would also need a powerful computer with a lot of memory too.
So you can see why a simple request for a recommendation isn't quite
complex enough to cover your needs.
> So the choice a little more expensive interfaces are due to awareness of
> the problems that arise in the case of cheaper interfaces. For $ 100 you
> can buy a toy, not the interface.
interface but only intended for one simple task. I can sell you one
for $300, if you prefer! :-)
Good luck.
Gerry
Jun 15, 2015, 5:12:37 PM6/15/15
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On 2015-06-15 21:10:39 +0000, Gerry said:
>> So the choice a little more expensive interfaces are due to awareness of
>> the problems that arise in the case of cheaper interfaces. For $ 100 you
>> can buy a toy, not the interface.
>
> I'm not sure what part of it's tech-spec deters you. It's an excellent
> interface but only intended for one simple task. I can sell you one
> for $300, if you prefer! :-)
I see the Jam 96k costs $129
>> So the choice a little more expensive interfaces are due to awareness of
>> the problems that arise in the case of cheaper interfaces. For $ 100 you
>> can buy a toy, not the interface.
>
> I'm not sure what part of it's tech-spec deters you. It's an excellent
> interface but only intended for one simple task. I can sell you one
> for $300, if you prefer! :-)
Joey Goldstein
Jun 15, 2015, 6:24:25 PM6/15/15
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instrument (e.g. guitar).
It has 2 regular analog line outs and 2 stereo headphone/line analog
outs for a total of 6 analog outputs.
It also has a stereo S/PDIF I/O, as well as stereo I/O for 3 ADAT machines
I'm not sure how the ADATs are supposed to hook up to the BF because
there are no physical I/O jacks for this.
Must be a USB thing.
So all together the BF has I/O capability for 5 stereo signals (1 analog
and 4 digital) or 10 mono signals (2 analog and 8 digital.
I'm quite happy with mine.
Does the Apogee JAM also have stereo digital outputs?
I thought it was a device for simply getting audio into the computer and
that you'd need to use your computer's sound card to monitor from/with.
The Apogee Duet (2 X 2, I believe) is the smallest one they make with a DAC.
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Gerry
Jun 15, 2015, 7:09:00 PM6/15/15
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On 2015-06-15 22:24:24 +0000, Joey Goldstein said:
> Does the Apogee JAM also have stereo digital outputs?
No, it takes a single phone jack.
> Does the Apogee JAM also have stereo digital outputs?
> I thought it was a device for simply getting audio into the computer
> and that you'd need to use your computer's sound card to monitor
> from/with.
recording. There's also the 96k version.
> The Apogee Duet (2 X 2, I believe) is the smallest one they make with a DAC.
DeK
Jun 15, 2015, 8:52:58 PM6/15/15
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Joey Goldstein pisze:
> The Babyface has 2 analog inputs that can be configured for mic or
> instrument (e.g. guitar).
> It has 2 regular analog line outs and 2 stereo headphone/line analog
> outs for a total of 6 analog outputs.
> It also has a stereo S/PDIF I/O, as well as stereo I/O for 3 ADAT machines
> I'm not sure how the ADATs are supposed to hook up to the BF because
> there are no physical I/O jacks for this.
> Must be a USB thing.
>
> So all together the BF has I/O capability for 5 stereo signals (1 analog
> and 4 digital) or 10 mono signals (2 analog and 8 digital.
>
> I'm quite happy with mine.
>
> Does the Apogee JAM also have stereo digital outputs?
> I thought it was a device for simply getting audio into the computer and
> that you'd need to use your computer's sound card to monitor from/with.
>
> The Apogee Duet (2 X 2, I believe) is the smallest one they make with a
> DAC.
>
I would like to have the ability to record in stereo.
At the same time it will be recorded one-two instruments. But usually
one instrument. I do not want myself to close the possibility of using
two instruments simultaneously.
Roland Octa, I considered primarily for functionality even though I do
not use the number of inputs and outputs offered by this interface. The
only problem about which I read that you do not want to work properly
with USB 3.0, even with the speed of USB 2.0
But a lot of good reviews I read regarding the RME Babyface.
Apogee Jam is an interesting solution, but I'm a PC user and this is a
fairly simple solution does not allow for much.
I know that RME products are expensive, so I am looking for the
interface of the better ones but used :)
Currently, the market appeared RME Babyface Pro and it's amazing hardware.
Technical support and service products such as Presonus or Scarlett in
my country is poor.
> The Babyface has 2 analog inputs that can be configured for mic or
> instrument (e.g. guitar).
> It has 2 regular analog line outs and 2 stereo headphone/line analog
> outs for a total of 6 analog outputs.
> It also has a stereo S/PDIF I/O, as well as stereo I/O for 3 ADAT machines
> I'm not sure how the ADATs are supposed to hook up to the BF because
> there are no physical I/O jacks for this.
> Must be a USB thing.
>
> So all together the BF has I/O capability for 5 stereo signals (1 analog
> and 4 digital) or 10 mono signals (2 analog and 8 digital.
>
> I'm quite happy with mine.
>
> Does the Apogee JAM also have stereo digital outputs?
> I thought it was a device for simply getting audio into the computer and
> that you'd need to use your computer's sound card to monitor from/with.
>
> The Apogee Duet (2 X 2, I believe) is the smallest one they make with a
> DAC.
>
At the same time it will be recorded one-two instruments. But usually
one instrument. I do not want myself to close the possibility of using
two instruments simultaneously.
Roland Octa, I considered primarily for functionality even though I do
not use the number of inputs and outputs offered by this interface. The
only problem about which I read that you do not want to work properly
with USB 3.0, even with the speed of USB 2.0
But a lot of good reviews I read regarding the RME Babyface.
Apogee Jam is an interesting solution, but I'm a PC user and this is a
fairly simple solution does not allow for much.
I know that RME products are expensive, so I am looking for the
interface of the better ones but used :)
Currently, the market appeared RME Babyface Pro and it's amazing hardware.
Technical support and service products such as Presonus or Scarlett in
my country is poor.
Joey Goldstein
Jun 15, 2015, 11:37:30 PM6/15/15
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On 2015-06-15 7:08 PM, Gerry wrote:
> On 2015-06-15 22:24:24 +0000, Joey Goldstein said:
>
>> Does the Apogee JAM also have stereo digital outputs?
>
> No, it takes a single phone jack.
>
>> I thought it was a device for simply getting audio into the computer
>> and that you'd need to use your computer's sound card to monitor
>> from/with.
>
> That's true. It has a/d converter which outputs 48kHz / 24-bit
> recording. There's also the 96k version.
>
>> The Apogee Duet (2 X 2, I believe) is the smallest one they make with
>> a DAC.
>
> What would the 48khz and 96khz mean, if not a/d?
Not sure what you're asking.
> On 2015-06-15 22:24:24 +0000, Joey Goldstein said:
>
>> Does the Apogee JAM also have stereo digital outputs?
>
> No, it takes a single phone jack.
>
>> I thought it was a device for simply getting audio into the computer
>> and that you'd need to use your computer's sound card to monitor
>> from/with.
>
> That's true. It has a/d converter which outputs 48kHz / 24-bit
> recording. There's also the 96k version.
>
>> The Apogee Duet (2 X 2, I believe) is the smallest one they make with
>> a DAC.
>
> What would the 48khz and 96khz mean, if not a/d?
Most audio interfaces have both analog-to-digital converters *and*
digital-to-analog-converters.
It's my understanding that the JAM only has the former.
Gerry
Jun 16, 2015, 10:42:42 AM6/16/15
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On 2015-06-16 03:37:27 +0000, Joey Goldstein said:
> Most audio interfaces have both analog-to-digital converters *and*
> digital-to-analog-converters.
> It's my understanding that the JAM only has the former.
That is correct; it only converts a signal to digital. The user would
> Most audio interfaces have both analog-to-digital converters *and*
> digital-to-analog-converters.
> It's my understanding that the JAM only has the former.
not output audio to the device.
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