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tomw

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Jan 21, 2003, 9:10:50 AM1/21/03
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Speaking of the Roland Cube 60, I'm looking for a 12" replacement
speaker. I bought a Weber, but it turns out it's a *little bit* too big.
I need something that measures only about 4" deep. Ideas?
--
Tom Walls
the guy at the Temple of Zeus
http://www.arts.cornell.edu/zeus/

Mark Guest

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Jan 21, 2003, 9:42:03 AM1/21/03
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Hi Tom,

I worked around a speaker depth problem once by mounting the speaker to an
external gasket. The gasket added the needed 1/2" of depth to the cabinet. I
used closed cell foam for the gasket. It worked great for my MBII, but YMMV.

Best,

Mark Guest
Mark at MarkGuest.net
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tomw

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Jan 21, 2003, 9:50:37 AM1/21/03
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In article <b0jm42$qa1pn$1...@ID-100641.news.dfncis.de>,
jazzerw...@yahoo.com says...

> Hi Tom,
>
> I worked around a speaker depth problem once by mounting the speaker to an
> external gasket. The gasket added the needed 1/2" of depth to the cabinet. I
> used closed cell foam for the gasket. It worked great for my MBII, but YMMV.
>
> Best,
>
> Mark Guest

Intruiging. Closed cell foam? Is this some kind of spray on goop?
Available at Radio Shack? Thanks for the info, Mark.

Mark Guest

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Jan 21, 2003, 10:34:38 AM1/21/03
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Hi Tom,

I used closed cell foam because it was the easiest material that I could
find laying around. I scavenged mine from an old camping pad (thin
mattress), but better quality stuff of varying thicknesses and stiffness can
be found at good river sports outfitters. If you're handy with wood, a
wooden spacer/gasket might be a good alternative.

Good luck!

Mark Guest
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tomw

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Jan 21, 2003, 12:02:46 PM1/21/03
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In article <b0jp6l$qb6sr$1...@ID-100641.news.dfncis.de>,
I think this could be just the thing. I only need another 3/8". Thanks
a million, Mark!

Mark Guest

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Jan 21, 2003, 1:51:06 PM1/21/03
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I'll just take your check for a half mill...rmmgj discount, you know.

Glad to help.

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sgcim

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Jan 25, 2003, 6:50:25 PM1/25/03
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"Mark Guest" <jazzerw...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<b0k4n4$q6thp$1...@ID-100641.news.dfncis.de>...

> I'll just take your check for a half mill...rmmgj discount, you know.
>
> Glad to help.
>
> --
> Mark Guest
> Mark at MarkGuest.net
> www.MarkGuest.net
> "tomw" <tw...@cornell.edu> wrote in message
> news:MPG.189747429...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu...
> > In article <b0jp6l$qb6sr$1...@ID-100641.news.dfncis.de>,
> > jazzerw...@yahoo.com says...
> > > Hi Tom,
> > >
> > > I used closed cell foam because it was the easiest material that I could
> > > find laying around. I scavenged mine from an old camping pad (thin
> > > mattress), but better quality stuff of varying thicknesses and stiffness
> can
I just had to replace the original 12" speaker in my Roland Cube 60
because it was too old, dry and brittle and it was distorting all the
time.
My repairman put an MG 12" speaker in there, and it fits and sounds
fine.
However, with my Borys, I have to add treble if I don't want that
overly bass sound typical of Chuck Wayne, Mark Elf, Peter Leitch
etc...

tomw

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Jan 27, 2003, 9:07:11 AM1/27/03
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In article <7318994a.03012...@posting.google.com>,
sg...@hotmail.com says...

> I just had to replace the original 12" speaker in my Roland Cube 60
> because it was too old, dry and brittle and it was distorting all the
> time.
> My repairman put an MG 12" speaker in there, and it fits and sounds
> fine.
> However, with my Borys, I have to add treble if I don't want that
> overly bass sound typical of Chuck Wayne, Mark Elf, Peter Leitch
> etc...

Well my replacement seems to have worked out. I stuck a Weber ceramic
coil blah-blah in there, and it sounds real good. I'm playing a Tele
with humbucker through it -- so you can see you and I have pretty
divergent needs -- but I'm also always fighting the battle of a rich
warm sound without stepping into the muffled underwater too-much-bass
terain. My previous default setting was no bass, no treble, midrange
half way. With this amp speaker combo I'm fiddling with treble and bass
around 2, midrange around 3-4. I use a tube preamp that helps provide
some definition.

Steven Rosenberg

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Jan 28, 2003, 1:37:11 PM1/28/03
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Yep, less bass, less treble, more midrange -- that's the moneymaker
for the Cube 60 ... also try pulling out the bright switch on the
volume knob -- that sometimes takes care of the muddiness problem.

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Paul Craven

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Jan 28, 2003, 2:20:24 PM1/28/03
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Which Cube 60 is that? My silver/blue guitar model has no bright switch.
I used to have an orange one, years ago, and I don't think that had a
push-pull
bright switch either.

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tomw

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Jan 28, 2003, 2:49:38 PM1/28/03
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In article <6e8a1c6f.03012...@posting.google.com>,
steven_h_...@yahoo.com says...

> Yep, less bass, less treble, more midrange -- that's the moneymaker
> for the Cube 60 ... also try pulling out the bright switch on the
> volume knob -- that sometimes takes care of the muddiness problem.
>

I did pull out the brightness switch once -- it scared me!

Steven Rosenberg

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Jan 29, 2003, 2:34:24 PM1/29/03
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Sometimes backing off on the treble controle but pulling out the
bright knob sounds better. Actually, best sound improvement for a Cube
60 is to tilt it backward slightly -- much better tone that way --
stuff something under the front of the amp to get it at an upward
angle.

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tomw

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Jan 29, 2003, 3:04:55 PM1/29/03
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> Sometimes backing off on the treble controle but pulling out the
> bright knob sounds better. Actually, best sound improvement for a Cube
> 60 is to tilt it backward slightly -- much better tone that way --
> stuff something under the front of the amp to get it at an upward
> angle.
>

Last night I employed the bright switch and -- with the bass and treble
once more turned totally off -- the sound was just what I was looking
for. I'm even forgoing the tube preamp for the time being, but I may
need it on the job. I also like it tilted back, and up off the floor.
Thanks for the suggestions.

Steven Rosenberg

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Jan 29, 2003, 7:30:43 PM1/29/03
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Sorry about "controle" ... too much typing.

Also, when you're tilting it backward, don't let it tip over. Maybe
just elevating the thing in a chair will do the trick -- I've done
that a few times.

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sgcim

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Feb 1, 2003, 2:37:49 PM2/1/03
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steven_h_...@yahoo.com (Steven Rosenberg) wrote in message news:<6e8a1c6f.03012...@posting.google.com>...
> Sorry about "controle" ... too much typing.
>
> Also, when you're tilting it backward, don't let it tip over. Maybe
> just elevating the thing in a chair will do the trick -- I've done
> that a few times.
>
> steven_h_...@yahoo.com (Steven Rosenberg) wrote in message news:<6e8a1c6f.03012...@posting.google.com>...
> > Sometimes backing off on the treble controle but pulling out the
> > bright knob sounds better. Actually, best sound improvement for a Cube
> > 60 is to tilt it backward slightly -- much better tone that way --
> > stuff something under the front of the amp to get it at an upward
> > angle.
> >
> > tomw <tw...@cornell.edu> wrote in message news:<MPG.18a0a8e13...@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>...
> > > In article <6e8a1c6f.03012...@posting.google.com>,
> > > steven_h_...@yahoo.com says...
> > > > Yep, less bass, less treble, more midrange -- that's the moneymaker
> > > > for the Cube 60 ... also try pulling out the bright switch on the
> > > > volume knob -- that sometimes takes care of the muddiness problem.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I did pull out the brightness switch once -- it scared me!

I've been using my orange Cube 60 on gigs with the new speaker and my
Borys, and it's amazing how a new speaker can change an amp's sound.
For the first time, I have to use treble on the amp with my Borys.
The suggestion about pulling out the bright switch might be my next
move.
All I know is that when I finally added some treble on one gig,
everybody in the club really liked the sound.
I also have to turn up the volume higher than it's ever been before,
and I've had this amp 18 years!
It's getting so weird that I'm gonna take my Fender on my next gig,
just to see if the Cube can still sound as loud as it used to sound.
Tilting it up is very important, as is elevating the Cube.
I'm still traumatized from having Ralph LaLama scream in my ear
"your amp's too fucking loud!" when I used to sit it on the ground and
not tilt it up.

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