Patch Cord Recomendations
Dan
I would like to buy some quality patch cords of varoius lengths... cover the
guitars, and pedal boards.
Also would like to get similar quality speaker cords..
While I have seen some exotic stuff .. non soldered stuff.. and different
connections rather than the 1/4 jack, I ain't so good as to need to worry
too much about superior specs... However, I would like decint quality..
your coaching please, and hey a good purchase outlet woo-dent hoit!
Thanks, danny
Bill Ribas
they actually improve the sound (my opinion).
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Tom Walls
pj...@pacbell.net says...
> I'll second George L, I have used them for years and never had a problem
>
> Bill Ribas wrote:
> > check out George L's. You can get the cable in two sizes, solderless, and
> > they actually improve the sound (my opinion).
> >
> >
I like George L's too -- they sound great(ie, marginally better than a
low-capacitance Whirlwind) -- but beware of the solderless right angle
plugs. I've had to assemble them over and over again. I hate them.
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Mark Guest
What about speaker cables? Do the George L instrument cables work as well in
speaker applications?
BTW, I prefer the Klotz over George L's, but only because it feels sturdier.
I got my Klotz from Jeff Hale. Last I looked, his prices were the best, and
he's a good guy.
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Andy
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>
> What about speaker cables? Do the George L instrument cables work
> as well in speaker applications?
Mark,
I'd recommend *not* using instrument (shielded) cables for speaker
applications. Regular power cable/zip cord/lamp cord of decent gauge
is usable for speaker applications. If you're not too keen on the
idea of making your own cables, George L do make speaker cables as
well. Avoid the super-duper high end expensive speaker cabling,
you'll be wasting your money (this may start a flame-war with
rec.audio.wankerphiles types, but what the hey! >:)
Take care,
Andy.
Stan Gosnell
George L cable is excellent, but the plugs suck. Get Neutrik plugs from
www.mouser.com, or Switchcraft from almost anywhere. IMO the Neutrik plugs -
the big suckers, are second to none. They won't come apart, and you have to
really work at it to break them. I've never had one break, either right-
angle or straight.
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Regards,
Stan
Mark Guest
Thanks for the info. I didn't know that George L made speaker cables. I
didn't think that instrument cables were a good substitute for speaker
cables, but I generally don't learn if I don't enquire.
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"Andy" <nos...@at.all> wrote in message
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Pat Smith
I have never had any problem and I have a couple that must be going on
20 years old
LenBum
My 2 cents.................I use George L's. I bought 30' of cable and a
bunch of plugs. I've never had a problem. And unlike Tom the right angle
plugs haven't given me trouble. I use them for my patches and they don't
move around much......................
Peter Grey
>I have heard that about the plugs, but in all the years i have used them I
>have never had any problem and I have a couple that must be going on 20
>years old
Me too. I bought a Klotz cable on a whim and I've had nothing but trouble
with the fancy connectors, while the George L's continue to work fine.
Peter
Stan Gosnell
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> Me too. I bought a Klotz cable on a whim and I've had nothing but trouble
> with the fancy connectors, while the George L's continue to work fine.
If you take good care of your cables, they will keep working, most of the
time. But with the big Neutriks, I can pull the plug out from the far end of
the cable, putting as much stress on it as I like, and it will not
disconnect. The plug grips the outer insulation so the actual inner
conductor is never stressed. With the George L's, doing that will pull the
cable out of the plug. Of course, it can be replaced easily, so it's a
tradeoff, like almost everything is. I prefer Neutriks, but it's certainly a
personal decision as to whether you prefer easy repair or less chance of
needing the repair in the first place.
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Stan
Andrew Hoyt
> Hi Pat,
>
> What about speaker cables? Do the George L instrument cables work as well in
> speaker applications?
>
> BTW, I prefer the Klotz over George L's, but only because it feels sturdier.
Well...perhaps not. I don't gig, just play in my basement.
Seated......no dancing around while I play. My Klotz broke anyway
(don't you hate it when this happens). The plug needs to be
resoldered. Perhaps it was not soldered well originally.
Andy
Chuck
without any issues. I DO, however, heed LV's advice on them and snip
clean ends and clean out the plugs from time to time. Only takes a
minute and ought to prevent issues down the road. It's the most
cost-effective stuff I have, well worth the $40 or so I initially
spent.
Chuck
www.monkeychild.com
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> connections rather than the 1/4 jack, I ain't so good as to need to worry
> too much about superior specs... However, I would like decint quality..
I've been thru maybe 100 guitar cables & still manage to kill a few,
but when I need only a straight 6 footer for performing, the Whirlwind
I bought about 25 yrs ago is still flawless - and it has played at
least 500 gigs. I have no idea how their present product holds up. I
usually make up quality cords as needed from good Belden cable &
Switchcraft plugs, but it isn't for people who don't have experience
in making strong, reliable plug installations. It's hard to imagine
you killing a cord playing in the basement, what am I missing? Willie
will make you a bulletproof cord if you need one.
One thing I do not like about the original Whirlwind plug, and to a
lesser extent also the Switchcrafts, is the tip profile radius which
is more easily yanked out of a typical jack than some others. I never
set up in a way that a direct pull on either plug is likely, but shit
happens.
It has always struck me as stupid to have phone plugs/jacks on a
performing instrument, instead of a latching connector like XLR or
threaded mic type/coax type or BNC, etc. ISTM the only reason this
late-1920's's connector was used past WW2 on guitars & amps was that
mfg'r's were lazy & cheap, and that none of them wanted to risk being
the first whose amps & guitars didn't plug right into someone else's
marginal connectors. IMHO it is hard to beat the strength,
compactness, goldplated conductivity and lock-on reliability of BNC
connectors, where the whole shield braid is mechanically held by a
short, threaded retainer. This would seem doubly so for pedalboards,
etc. A BNC tip would have to be rethought to work with
flexible/stranded instrument cable.
howard aubrey
> Dan wrote:
>
> > Good evening,
> >
> > I would like to buy some quality patch cords of varoius lengths... cover the
> > guitars, and pedal boards.
> >
> > Also would like to get similar quality speaker cords..
> >
> > While I have seen some exotic stuff .. non soldered stuff.. and different
> > connections rather than the 1/4 jack, I ain't so good as to need to worry
> > too much about superior specs... However, I would like decint quality..
> >
> > your coaching please, and hey a good purchase outlet woo-dent hoit!
> >
> > Thanks, danny
>
> My cables are on tour with major national acts.
>
LOL!! So the Theater of the Deaf road tour of 'Pippin' is now a
'major national act'??
Dan, don't pay anyone to make you cables. The money wasted would
equip
you with the tools needed to make your own, far superior cables.
Check out
Westlake for cable and connectors, and google up 'making your own
guitar cables'. Very basic soldering skills are all that's needed,
anyone that tells you otherwise is lying or trying to rip you off.
Guitar cables are one of the simplest soldering projects anyone could
ever do. Mine have been going strong for decades, and I treat them
horribly. Canare and Belden cables and Switchcraft and Neutrik
connectors are all great. I have prefernces, but you should try your
own combinations. Just start a little longer than you want in case
you make a mistake.
cheers....
HJA
Professional