Joe Pass - Various "Virtuoso" recordings
Mark Garvin
two of the 'other' Virtuoso's...just not sure about 'em.
Virtuoso #2 has Giant Steps, tho I'm not sure how Joe treated that.
The tunes I've heard from V#2 were OK. Maybe not quite up to the
first Virtuoso album.
Virtuoso #3 sounds appealing cause there's a book of transcribed
solos, BUT the bits I've heard sound very simplistic. I didn't think
Joe was at his best there.
Virtuoso #4 -- Haven't heard it.
Comments, please? Other JP CDs preferred over these?
MG
Pat Smith
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Mark Garvin <mga...@panix.com> wrote:
>I have the first Virtuoso album. I was considering picking up one or
>two of the 'other' Virtuoso's...just not sure about 'em.
>
>Virtuoso #2 has Giant Steps, tho I'm not sure how Joe treated that.
>The tunes I've heard from V#2 were OK. Maybe not quite up to the
>first Virtuoso album.
>
>Virtuoso #3 sounds appealing cause there's a book of transcribed
>solos, BUT the bits I've heard sound very simplistic. I didn't think
>Joe was at his best there.
>
>Virtuoso #4 -- Haven't heard it.
>
>Comments, please? Other JP CDs preferred over these?
I think JP's best solo work was towards the end of his life, after
he'd been playing solo for 20 years. My favorites are Unforgettable
and Songs For Ellen, both on nylon string.
Virtuoso #3 is a fine album, featuring Joe's originals and no standards.
I can't compare it to the other Virtuoso records.
Gene Mills
>Comments, please? Other JP CDs preferred over these?
>
>
I like "I remember Charlie Parker" done on nylon string. But my favorite is
"Catch Me." It is out of print unfortunately. More single line as opposed to
solo gtr.
skrohn
I am not a fan of the first and have not listenend to others.
I've been told that #3 was the best of them.
For solo guitar from Joe Pass , I love "Blues For Fred" and like "I Remember
Charlie Parker".
The virtuoso albums were made in the early stages of his solo work.
By the time "Blues For Fred" came out, he had it down. !
IMHO Virtuoso is not as musically focused and complete.
Mark Garvin wrote in message <8lba1c$gi9$1...@panix2.panix.com>...
>I have the first Virtuoso album. I was considering picking up one or
>two of the 'other' Virtuoso's...just not sure about 'em.
>
>Virtuoso #2 has Giant Steps, tho I'm not sure how Joe treated that.
>The tunes I've heard from V#2 were OK. Maybe not quite up to the
>first Virtuoso album.
>
>Virtuoso #3 sounds appealing cause there's a book of transcribed
>solos, BUT the bits I've heard sound very simplistic. I didn't think
>Joe was at his best there.
>
>Virtuoso #4 -- Haven't heard it.
>
Joe Finn
Mark Garvin wrote:
> I have the first Virtuoso album. I was considering picking up one or
> two of the 'other' Virtuoso's...just not sure about 'em.
>
> Virtuoso #2 has Giant Steps, tho I'm not sure how Joe treated that.
He does it as a sort of bossa..... joe
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Gustav Bindinger
Hi!
I prefer Joe Pass "for Django" CD, it is brillant!
Does anyone know, if Joe plays on his virtuoso CDs with fingers or pick? I
both of his styles a lot, but when he plays with a pick it sounds amazing!
cu
GB
Thomas F Brown
Gustav Bindinger <G...@world.de> wrote:
>
>Does anyone know, if Joe plays on his virtuoso CDs with fingers or pick? I
>both of his styles a lot, but when he plays with a pick it sounds amazing!
When I saw him playing solo gigs live, he alternated between fingers
and pick, but mostly used fingers.
Schief
trio album that really swings, with Eberhard Weber and Kenny Clare. I
actually prefer hearing him play with that minimum harmonic and rhythmic
support - his lines are so "simple" and melodic. I have an old album copy
and really need to get the young teen down the street to dig up a turntable
and burn a CD version for a keepsake. I've looked before for a CD copy, but
it doesn't look like its ever been re-released - what a shame.
Schief
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>My all time favorite Joe Pass album is the
obscure, "Intercontinental," a
>trio album that really swings, with Eberhard Weber and Kenny
Clare. I
>actually prefer hearing him play with that minimum harmonic and
rhythmic
>support - his lines are so "simple" and melodic. I have an old
album copy
>and really need to get the young teen down the street to dig up
a turntable
>and burn a CD version for a keepsake. I've looked before for a
CD copy, but
>it doesn't look like its ever been re-released - what a shame.
>
Yeah, it has, but only in Japan. You can get it from some of
the online stores.
http://www.towerrecords.com/product.asp?pfid=1546956
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Schief wrote:
> My all time favorite Joe Pass album is the obscure, "Intercontinental," a
> trio album that really swings, with Eberhard Weber and Kenny Clare. I
> actually prefer hearing him play with that minimum harmonic and rhythmic
> support - his lines are so "simple" and melodic. I have an old album copy
> and really need to get the young teen down the street to dig up a turntable
> and burn a CD version for a keepsake. I've looked before for a CD copy, but
> it doesn't look like its ever been re-released - what a shame.
>
> Schief
Hi there,
don't forget "Blues for two" with Zoot Simms. Just got an album copy of
that. Wouldn't exchange it for a CD, though. Far better sound from vinyl.
Greetings, Leo
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David Moss
"Ralph Leonhardt" wrote...
> Far better sound from vinyl.
Vinyl? Well, I know lots of you high-tech types always
need the latest gizmo, but you'll never persuade me that
anything's better than shellac. Except maybe 8-track
cartridges.
Sharon Primerano
his solo playing (as on Virtuoso)is done in a classical style (thumb on
lower three strings, index finger on G, middle on B, ring on E). Octaves are
played with thumb and middle. Runs are played with alternating index and
middle fingers.
When he played with an ensemble he was more apt to use a pick, although he
would often put the pick in his mouth to play chord solos.
When he played with a pick the attack was more round and hard. When he
played with his fingers you can hear his fingernails dig in.
If you get a chance, check out the video.
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"Gustav Bindinger" <G...@world.de> wrote in message
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>
> Hi!
>
> I prefer Joe Pass "for Django" CD, it is brillant!
>
> Does anyone know, if Joe plays on his virtuoso CDs with fingers or pick? I
> both of his styles a lot, but when he plays with a pick it sounds amazing!
>
>
> cu
>
> GB
>
>
Jazzius
>trio album that really swings, with Eberhard Weber and Kenny Clare. I
>actually prefer hearing him play with that minimum harmonic and rhythmic
>support - his lines are so "simple" and melodic. I have an old album copy
>and really need to get the young teen down the street to dig up a turntable
>and burn a CD version for a keepsake. I've looked before for a CD copy, but
>it doesn't look like its ever been re-released - what a shame.
>
I would agree that this is a tremendous and undeservedly obscure Pass title. I
don't think anything else I've heard by Pass quite matches the extra fire this
date captures. It has been released on CD, but only in Japan. I picked up a CD
copy a few years ago, but don't know if it's currently available. It comes up
for auction on eBay occasionall, and since it is obscure, hasn't commanded
exorbitant prices (yet).
David Stephens
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Amazon was carrying the Japaneze CD for around $20. I purchased mine there a
few months ago. It was certainly worth the extra few bucks.
Dave
Clay Moore
>My all time favorite Joe Pass album is the obscure, "Intercontinental," a
>trio album that really swings, with Eberhard Weber and Kenny Clare. I
>actually prefer hearing him play with that minimum harmonic and rhythmic
>support - his lines are so "simple" and melodic. I have an old album copy
>and really need to get the young teen down the street to dig up a turntable
>and burn a CD version for a keepsake. I've looked before for a CD copy, but
>it doesn't look like its ever been re-released - what a shame.
I agree; that's a terrific album. I think I still have my vinyl copy, but I
haven't seen it in a long time.
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Travis Harrell
Intercontinental HAS been released on CD. I've been listening to it
the last year. It's my favorite JP and one of my all time favorite
jazz guitar albums.
I think I ordered it from Amazon. It's on the Polydor label
(POCJ-2508) appears to be a Japanese import. The sound quality is
excellent.
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Lawson Stone
wrote on 7/22/00 5:04 AM:
> I have the first Virtuoso album. I was considering picking up one or
> two of the 'other' Virtuoso's...just not sure about 'em.
>
> Virtuoso #2 has Giant Steps, tho I'm not sure how Joe treated that.
> The tunes I've heard from V#2 were OK. Maybe not quite up to the
> first Virtuoso album.
>
> Virtuoso #3 sounds appealing cause there's a book of transcribed
> solos, BUT the bits I've heard sound very simplistic. I didn't think
> Joe was at his best there.
All original compositions by Joe. Some see this as almost an "academic" CD.
I enjoy it, but not for constant play.
>
> Virtuoso #4 -- Haven't heard it
Virtuoso #4 is simply cuts from the original Virtuoso session that weren't
used on the first recording. The recording dates are identical. If you like
V1, you'll also like V4. I do, and I did!
Virtuoso LIVE is a live concert and it's one of my favorite. A lot of fire,
mood shifts, and fun selections. Not the usual fare.
>
> Comments, please? Other JP CDs preferred over these?
My favorite Joe Pass solo CD is "Blues for Fred." Great tunes, wonderful
tone, impeccable taste and almost flawless execution.
>
> MG
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released on blue note, apparently any day now. He's the Clifford Brown
of the Guitar on that one. Catch Me is great too, although not
available yet on CD. All the Pacific jazz records are worth getting
when they become available, since he kicks ass on everyone, even the
Stones jazz, which is big band arrangements of Stone's tunes. You
wouldn't even realize some of them are the tunes they are titled until
you pay careful attention, and he plays pure Bob over the tunes, no
attempt at rock playing.
There's a version of For Django currently on CD at amazon that's not
very expensive and the sound's ok (I bought it after wearing out two
vinyl copies), but I'll bet Blue Note puts an outtake or two on theirs.
The Virtuoso 1 album sounds to me to be almost all "pick and fingers"
style, with the combination used for walking base back cycling and the
like and with strummed chords and single lines with the pick. By the
time of Virtuoso 2, he was more into the finger style. The live at
Montreux (1975 or 76) album has electrified pick and fingers for the
most part, as I recall, but I'm not sure that one's been reissued by
Pablo.
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