Saw Kaki King last night
Jack A. Zucker
She really makes you want to re-think your entire approach to the
instrument.
Only a few guitar players have ever had that effect on me.
Jimi Hendrix, Frank Gambale, Wes Montgomery, Pat Martino, Allan Holdsworth,
Shawn Lane, Victor Wooten....
Jaz
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Peter Inglis - TWG
> Unbelievable guitarist. Just a wonderful performance.
>
> She really makes you want to re-think your entire approach to the
> instrument.
>
> Only a few guitar players have ever had that effect on me.
>
> Jimi Hendrix, Frank Gambale, Wes Montgomery, Pat Martino, Allan Holdsworth,
> Shawn Lane, Victor Wooten....
Hey it's nice to read that after all the sexist rubbish in the magazines.
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Jack A. Zucker wrote:
> Unbelievable guitarist. Just a wonderful performance.
>
> She really makes you want to re-think your entire approach to the
> instrument.
>
> Only a few guitar players have ever had that effect on me.
>
> Jimi Hendrix, Frank Gambale, Wes Montgomery, Pat Martino, Allan
Holdsworth,
> Shawn Lane, Victor Wooten....
>
>
>
I agree she's great anda real originanl. But it looks like you've
rethought your whole apporach to the instrument at least seven times
already!
noisyjazzman
But clips are nothing like the real thing (ie. live performance). What
about her playing did you find so radical?
Jack A. Zucker
> rethought your whole apporach to the instrument at least seven times
> already!
Well, that's the problem. I keep re-thinking my approach but not really
doing anything about it! :-)
das
news:Er6dnSF27Nw...@adelphia.com...
Yeah, her website has some live video samples from her playing on "Conan"
and others. My son keeps asking how you can tap an acoustic like that.
http://www.kakiking.com/
David S.
Jeremey Poparad
"noisyjazzman" <noisyj...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've only heard some brief clips. Sounds very Michael Hedges-ish to me.
> But clips are nothing like the real thing (ie. live performance). What
> about her playing did you find so radical?
>
She plays with two handed tapping (sort of like Stanley Jordan) with a lot
of percussive effects on your standard, run of the mill Ovation. She gets
such a strong, percussive sound out of her playing with a technique, that
for me anyways, always yeilded a somewhat weak attack.
So Jack, how was her time? I remember hearing her a year or so ago and she
sounded a litte unsteady in tempo. I felt like that was the only thing
holding her back from really becoming the monster player you're describing,
so I'm guessing she's gotten better since I last heard her.
-Jeremey Poparad
Richard Bornman
but have you guys heard Preston Reed?
He really pioneered this approach,
which was originally hinted at by Hedges...
I have a DVD where Preston plays a
GROOVING funk type thing using
the tap/slap technique...he kills it!
I believe Kaki studied with him....
RB
Jeremey Poparad
"Richard Bornman" <richard...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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I have not heard of him, but I'll take down his name and check him out.
Thanks for sharing.
-Jeremey Poparad
El Kabong
She mentioned Reed on the NPR show I heard her on.
I heard a guy playing like that before, arounf 1994-5
he and I played the same places in Litchfield Co. Connecticut, I
can't remember his name, Bruce something I think. He was
very good at it, he had been playing that style for years.
After Hedges came out and the Windham Hill
players were popular, there were others who started playing that
style. Another one I heard was Billy McLaughlin.
Inhale Pink
Solo Guitar / Vocals
1989 Proton Discs
Fingerdance
Solo Guitar
1996 Narada
http://www.billymclaughlin.com/music.html
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"I say play your own way. Don't play what the public wants. You play what
you want and let the public pick up on what you're doing even if it does take
them fifteen, twenty years." - Thelonious Monk
Smak!
> "Jack A. Zucker" <j...@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
> news:Er6dnSF27Nw...@adelphia.com...
>
>>Unbelievable guitarist. Just a wonderful performance.
>>
>>She really makes you want to re-think your entire approach to the
>>instrument.
>>
>>Only a few guitar players have ever had that effect on me.
>>
>>Jimi Hendrix, Frank Gambale, Wes Montgomery, Pat Martino, Allan
>
> Holdsworth,
>
>>Shawn Lane, Victor Wooten....
> ==============================
> Yeah, her website has some live video samples from her playing on "Conan"
> and others. My son keeps asking how you can tap an acoustic like that.
> http://www.kakiking.com/
She's really good.. What tuning does she use? Does she use the same all
night or change it for different songs etc..?
Thanks,
Jeff.
El Kabong
Discussion - Topic: Kaki King on Letterman Mon Dec 20, 2004
http://www.guitarnotes.com/forum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=13;t=000190;p=
El Kabong
wrote:
>She's really good.. What tuning does she use?
Kaki Answers: BF#EGD#C is my favorite ... I use CGDGAD a lot--a very
versatile tuning. ...
http://kakiking.com/qa/answers.html
El Kabong
<noisyj...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I've only heard some brief clips. Sounds very Michael Hedges-ish to me.
"Billboard Magazine's review of her second album "Everybody Loves
You", (June 7, 2003) observes that frequent comparisons to Michael
Hedges, do not do her justice, describing her unique instrumental
style as "more anarchic, more rock informed" than that of the great
Hedges."
Jack A. Zucker
Email me offline clay...
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<cl...@claymoore.com> wrote in message
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>
> Jack A. Zucker wrote:
>> Unbelievable guitarist. Just a wonderful performance.
>>
>
> Hi Jack,
>
> By any chance was she opening for Matt Wilson's Arts and Crafts band?
> They're playing here (Kaki + MW) at the Dakota this week.
>
> Clay Moore
> cl...@claymoore.com
> http://www.claymoore.com
>
cl...@claymoore.com
Jack A. Zucker wrote:
> Unbelievable guitarist. Just a wonderful performance.
>
Hi Jack,
Smak!
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 08:57:00 -0500, "Smak!" <smak...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>She's really good.. What tuning does she use?
>
>
>
> Kaki Answers: BF#EGD#C is my favorite ... I use CGDGAD a lot--a very
> versatile tuning. ...
> http://kakiking.com/qa/answers.html
Thank you..
Outt..
Jeff.
Aaron Kumove
doesn't do anything for me. While her technique is great the clips I
have heard of her just don't do it for me musically. I think what it is
is that they don't seem to go anywhere and after the first 30 seconds I
find myself getting bored.
Be interesting to she how she develops over the coming years to see what
she can add in a musical sense to her already impressive technique.
Aaron
Jack A. Zucker
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>I certainly respect her abilities, her but I have to say that her music
>doesn't do anything for me. While her technique is great the clips I have
>heard of her just don't do it for me musically. I think what it is is that
>they don't seem to go anywhere and after the first 30 seconds I find myself
>getting bored.
> Be interesting to she how she develops over the coming years to see what
> she can add in a musical sense to her already impressive technique.
>
I thought her musical sense was just fine, particularly for such a young
player. She certainly doesn't have the harmonic concept of Ben Monder or
Kurt Rosenwinkel but I think she's got a pretty good start. There aren't too
many players that could hold my interest for a 2 hour solo guitar concert
even among the "heavy-hitters" out there.
Gama
Reed, she plays Ovation.
Gama
On 2/27/05 7:03 PM, in article 42225fec$1...@clear.net.nz, "Aaron Kumove"
Aaron Kumove
harmonic motion. It's an easy trap to fall into on an acoustic guitar
with open tunings.
Don't get me wrong, I think she is someone to watch out for, but I think
her technique is far ahead of her harmonic and melodic conception at
this point.
Aaron
j...@jackzucker.com
However, In this day and age when music seems to be heading down the
path towards becoming a happy meal, what a refreshing thing to hear a
young female artist that doesn't feel the need to look like a porn-star
and to actually make the music the central focus of her performance.
Jaz
Bill Ribas
say much about how she aguired her technique, but there is a transcription
of a song.
<j...@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
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Rick Ross
full on with the lip gloss and the sensuous undulations and oogling, etc.
not pornographic by any means but indisputably a sexually catalyzed
show...FWIW.I didn't like her vibe..
it's not "jazz guitar" as we generally construe it on this group and, for
this genre, I'd rather hear Richie Havens beat the shit out of an old
Guild...yeah..I inhaled so what?
Robert Barker
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Max Leggett
<rickfrossyou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I inhaled so what?
Everybody inhaled. You didn't get stoned otherwise, and that was the
whole point. Willie didn't inhale because he was allergic to smoke,
but he was a major hash brownie fiend. Not me. Although I was partial
to maryjane cookies I always found it easier to simply inhale the
noxious weed. BTW, as a proud boast, I believe I was the first to
introduce The Steamboat to Toronto, although I have no way of proving
this. It's... uh ... difficult to remember exactly what everyone else
was doing.
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"If the gods wanted us to twist our spines about
while we played guitar, they would have given us
rubber bands rather than vertebrae. And then where
would humanity be? Propelling cornflakes box
submarines in some alien bathtub in an ungodly
time dimension where the music of the spheres
consisted of Kenny G."
Spinoza
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j...@jackzucker.com
I didn't see that clip. What's the link?
j...@jackzucker.com
> I dunno.. I watched the clip of her posted on a more recent thread
and she's
> full on with the lip gloss and the sensuous undulations and oogling,
etc.
> not pornographic by any means but indisputably a sexually catalyzed
> show...FWIW.I didn't like her vibe..
Different strokes for different folks.
Just watched the video. I found nothing sexual in her video at all.
Yeah she was wearing makeup but so what?!? You don't put on a suit and
tie for a gig? Her performance was no more sexual than Wynton putting
on a fitted suit for a gig. She's just wearing standard college-wear. I
don't get this undulating, oogling comments.
Miles Davis undulated and oogled 10x more in his performances.
Oh well, such is usenet. :-)
Peter Inglis - TWG
> like what?
The presentation wasn't flattering I thought. I don't want to go into
details. I am glad to hear that she's a kickin' player,
--
Regards,
Peter Inglis - www.thewholeguitarist.com
-- email: pe...@thewholeguitarist.com
-- Read "Guitar Playing and How it Works"...
-- A new terminology and approach to the guitar based
-- on principles of the Alexander Technique and dance.
-- Videos of my guitar playing at www.thewholeguitarist.com/listen.htm
Peter Grey
mentioned Danny Heines. He's been doing this stuff for many years. From
what I see of Kaki King, she seems to have taken a page from his book
although her music seems not as involved.
I took lessons from Danny (he's a great straight ahead player) and saw him
play live a couple of times and he is amazing to watch. Unfortunately, his
web site doesn't really highlight his more technically demanding stuff. I
have his Vanishing Borders CD and some pieces are simply astounding - you
won't believe that there's no overdubbing.
Peter
"Jack A. Zucker" <j...@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
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> Unbelievable guitarist. Just a wonderful performance.
>
> She really makes you want to re-think your entire approach to the
> instrument.
>
> Only a few guitar players have ever had that effect on me.
>
> Jimi Hendrix, Frank Gambale, Wes Montgomery, Pat Martino, Allan
> Holdsworth, Shawn Lane, Victor Wooten....
>
>
> Jaz
>
>
Greger Hoel
Leggett) wrote:
>BTW, as a proud boast, I believe I was the first to
>introduce The Steamboat to Toronto, although I have no way of proving
>this. It's... uh ... difficult to remember exactly what everyone else
>was doing.
http://parentingteens.about.com/cs/marijuana/l/bldicmarijuana.htm
"Steamboat - inhaling marijuana smoke trapped in toilet paper roll or
similar device used to burn last embers of the butt"
LOL
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Max Leggett
<gre...@spammersgetbent.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:05:55 GMT, hepkatre...@hotmail.com (Max
>Leggett) wrote:
>
>>BTW, as a proud boast, I believe I was the first to
>>introduce The Steamboat to Toronto, although I have no way of proving
>>this. It's... uh ... difficult to remember exactly what everyone else
>>was doing.
>
>http://parentingteens.about.com/cs/marijuana/l/bldicmarijuana.htm
>
>"Steamboat - inhaling marijuana smoke trapped in toilet paper roll
Technically known as a DerDer, because when you were a kid you went
about with it going Der. Der.
>similar device used to burn last embers of the butt"
Nah. The lies they put on the web. I tell ya. You take your heretofore
referencd DerDer. You poke a hole about 1" from one end about an 1/8th
of an inch in diameter. You then roll a long mushroom shaped joint -
it took about 8 papers and used about an eighth of an ounce of reefer
potweed. You place the base of the constructed joint in the hole you
punched. Place one end of DerDer to mouth. Place palm of hand over
other end of DerDer so no air can enter. Fire up joint. Inhale
strongly, then, still inhaling, remove hand from other end of DerDer.
A ruch of cool air will force an enormous amount of cannabis saturated
smoke down your little druggie lungs, and you will be thoroughly zoned
in about 10 seconds flat.
Depiction of Steamboat Joint:
\ /
\ /
\ /
| |
| |
except that it's about twice this size.
To burn the "last embers of the butt" [sic - it's a freakin' roach]
the average unthinking pothead uses a pair of tweezers. Sap. You'll
drop the roach. Far superior is a pair of medical forceps.
And people think that being a stoner was easy. It took a lot of work
and forethought to do it properly. And then ParentingTeens.com [aka,
jack-booted stormtroopers] publish lies, outright slander. And for
this I pay taxes ...........
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Is it not strange that sheep's guts should hale
souls out of men's bodies?
Much Ado About Nothing, II iii
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Sotos
"Max Leggett" <hepkatre...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Speaking of roach clips...
The most mellow concert vibe I ever experienced was a Joni Mitchell concert
at the College of William and Mary, roundabouts '73, '74 or so. (yeah, I'm
that old) Tom Scott's band opened the show and backed Joni who did two full
sets, the first completely solo, the second with Scott's LA Express backing
her (this was the Court n Spark era). You could clip your roach clip onto a
passing doobie wondering if you'd ever see it again. 15 minutes later it
would come back by with a fresh joint attached. Everyone was on the same
side that night. Not sure it's happened since.
pataud
I'm more of a Nick Drake man myself, but I agree with the sentiment.
Gama
On 2/28/05 1:40 PM, in article
1109616058.7...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "j...@jackzucker.com"
David J. Littleboy
<j...@jackzucker.com> wrote:
> Rick Ross wrote:
>
> > I dunno.. I watched the clip of her posted on a more recent thread
> and she's
> > full on with the lip gloss and the sensuous undulations and oogling,
> etc.
> > not pornographic by any means but indisputably a sexually catalyzed
> > show...FWIW.I didn't like her vibe..
>
> Different strokes for different folks.
>
> Just watched the video. I found nothing sexual in her video at all.
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You twits are talking about _two different videos_!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go back to the web site and watch both.
But JAZ, thanks for the heads up. Before I started trying to play jazz, I
was a Fahey/Van Ronk/Jorma wannabe, and I really liked Hedges. Sigh. It's
nice to hear someone doing that again.
David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan
ott...@hotmail.com
Gama wrote:
> Yeah, I feel the same way. I find her music very boring. And, like
Preston
> Reed, she plays Ovation.
>
> Gama
>
on
their Duo CD, just as energetic and much more Harmonically interesting.
Bg
j...@jackzucker.com
David J. Littleboy wrote:
> ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> You twits are talking about _two different videos_!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Which video do you think each of us was talking about? I thought we
were both talking about the pink noise video?
I'll see if I can find another one on her site. :-)
David J. Littleboy
<j...@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
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I saw two: one was MTV-like overproduced oversexed, and the other was a live
concert.
j...@jackzucker.com
OK, i just saw the lip-licking. I don't like it either. She did none of
that during the concert I saw and though she made a couple lesbian
jokes, she did not play up her sexuality. She was dressed in jeans,
tee-shirt and tennis shoes, not dolled up like brittany...
El Kabong
<j...@jackzucker.com> wrote:
she did not play up her sexuality. She was dressed in jeans,
>tee-shirt and tennis shoes, not dolled up like brittany...>>
A woman wearing jeans & tee-shirts turns me on!
Flannel shirts, even better!
The bimbo look leaves me cold. Makeup, perfume,
etc, yuk.
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Johnny Asia, Guitarist from the Future
http://johnnyasia.info
"I say play your own way. Don't play what the public wants. You play what
you want and let the public pick up on what you're doing even if it does take
them fifteen, twenty years." - Thelonious Monk
El Kabong
she made a couple lesbian jokes>
I saw a poll on CNN a few years ago, women were asked
what star they fantasized about, K.D. Lang was on the list.