Nylon string guitar full size, full body but SLIMMER neck than normal classical guitars?! any ideas?
play.guit...@gmail.com
I do not get on well with standard classical guitars with wide necks.
I dont mind if the guitar has a truss rod or cutaway as i am not a
purist but I would prefer it to have a normal sized depth body so it
will have a good acoustic tone as I cam close to what i wanted with
one of the ibanez nylon string guitars but it was a slim body and very
quiet unplugged becuase it was designed as an electro/acoustic so it
sounded a lot better plugged in.....
any ideas.....budget approx £200 uk pound/ $400 usd..
thanks!
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Stephen Calder
> Trying to find a nylon string guitar with full body but a slim neck as
> I do not get on well with standard classical guitars with wide necks.
>
> I dont mind if the guitar has a truss rod or cutaway as i am not a
> purist but I would prefer it to have a normal sized depth body so it
> will have a good acoustic tone as I cam close to what i wanted with
> one of the ibanez nylon string guitars but it was a slim body and very
> quiet unplugged becuase it was designed as an electro/acoustic so it
> sounded a lot better plugged in.....
>
> any ideas.....budget approx £200 uk pound/ $400 usd..
>
>
> thanks!
>
>
I saw a nylon string with a narrow neck once. I couldn't play it because
you do really kind of need the room with a nylon string (not sure I
know why).
You'd be better off getting used to a wider neck in my opinion.
--
Stephen
Ballina, Australia
David J. Littleboy
<play.guit...@gmail.com> wrote:
Trying to find a nylon string guitar with full body but a slim neck as
I do not get on well with standard classical guitars with wide necks.
any ideas.....budget approx £200 uk pound/ $400 usd..
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I seem to remember that Yamaha _may_ have had nylon versions of their APX
series.
http://tampa.craigslist.org/msg/695645062.html
Oops. That's probably a wide neck. Sigh.
Aha! Here it is.
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar/product/Yamaha/APX-9NA/10/1
Maybe also (if you can stand them) Ovation as well.
David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan
Steven Bornfeld
I think the Taylor nylon string has a somewhat narrower neck. However,
I've heard generally mediocre reports about the acoustic sound.
Steve
DoVla
This was in the '80's, so I don't know if it's still true but Yamaha
classical guitars had much narrower necks than other, mostly European
brands. So narrow I found them unplayable.
george4908
> I've heard generally mediocre reports about the acoustic sound.
Agreed. Comfortable neck, but the Taylors are sound lifeless to me.
Breedlove has (or had) a similar model. I played an early prototype
that sounded surprisingly good, but the production models I've tried
haven't quite matched that standard. Something about cutting a hole
into the side of almost any acoustic guitar and filling it up with
electronics seems to deaden things pretty effectively.
Al
doesn't sound incredible acoustically.
KenK
> Trying to find a nylon string guitar with full body but a slim neck as
> I do not get on well with standard classical guitars with wide necks.
>
> I dont mind if the guitar has a truss rod or cutaway as i am not a
> purist but I would prefer it to have a normal sized depth body so it
> will have a good acoustic tone as I cam close to what i wanted with
> one of the ibanez nylon string guitars but it was a slim body and very
> quiet unplugged becuase it was designed as an electro/acoustic so it
> sounded a lot better plugged in.....
>
> any ideas.....budget approx £200 uk pound/ $400 usd..
>
> thanks!
>
Before I was able to afford a decent classical guitar I just slapped
some nylon strings on an old acoustic I had laying around. It worked
fine as a temporary fix.
I'll bet you'd get good results by putting a set of nylons on any
acoustic you like.
You might want to consider giving yourself time to get used to the
wider neck of a classical guitar. Flamenco and classical players are
doing a lot of advanced technique stuff and it doesn't bother them. If
you're into finger picking it will be good for your right hand as
well.
KenK
rpjazz...@gmail.com
nylon guitar has not been easy.
Almost every nylon instrument has a 25.5 or 650 mm (slightly longer)
scale length.
Most, but not all, have wide fingerboards. They're typically set up
with what strikes me as high action.
The only 24 3/4 nylon instrument I've ever actually held in my hands
was a Yamaha AEX500N. Nice instrument, but the fingerboard is very
narrow, even by my standards.
Godin makes some narrow fingerboard 25.5 instruments. The Yamaha
silent guitar has a shallow neck that's only moderately wide but it's
25.5.
If there is a 24 3/4 scale instrument with a medium-wide neck, I hope
someone will post about it. Unlike the OP I'm looking for an electric
instrument. The only acoustic property I really care about is that it
doesn't feedback easily when played at samba volume.
Rick
tomb...@jhu.edu
> Trying to find a nylon string guitar with full body but a slim neck as
> I do not get on well with standard classical guitars with wide necks.
You mean the 2" nut width? You don't want to go much narrower than
that, or the strings and fingers bump into one another. It's better to
work on your technique than buy a dysfunctional guitar.
OTOH, if you only want to play single note line, and don't fingerpick
chords or counterpoint, then it wouldn't matter how narrow you go.
Al
than 2"? Unless you're talking about bluegrass, they're almost all
fingerpicking chords and playing counterpoint.
I'll have to go measure my Wechter nylon neck. It's narrower than 2" and I
have no problem with those techniques. In fact, after playing an archtop,
other electrics, or my Collings flat top, I find it a little disorienting
for a while to switch to a classical with a 2" width.
Does anybody know the nut width of Metheny's acoustics? Somehow I doubt
that they're 2".
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tomb...@jhu.edu
> What about all the great fingerstyle flat top players who use necks narrower
> than 2"? Unless you're talking about bluegrass, they're almost all
> fingerpicking chords and playing counterpoint.
Nylon strings need more space to vibrate than steel strings do.
> I'll have to go measure my Wechter nylon neck. It's narrower than 2" and I
> have no problem with those techniques.
If you have skinny fingertips and can make it work that's great. But
there's a reason that most classicals are near the 2" width.
In fact, after playing an archtop,
> other electrics, or my Collings flat top, I find it a little disorienting
> for a while to switch to a classical with a 2" width.
>
> Does anybody know the nut width of Metheny's acoustics? Somehow I doubt
> that they're 2".
>
> <tombr...@jhu.edu> wrote in message
E7sus9
> I do not get on well with standard classical guitars with wide necks.
>
> I dont mind if the guitar has a truss rod or cutaway as i am not a
> purist but I would prefer it to have a normal sized depth body so it
> will have a good acoustic tone as I cam close to what i wanted with
> one of the ibanez nylon string guitars but it was a slim body and very
> quiet unplugged becuase it was designed as an electro/acoustic so it
> sounded a lot better plugged in.....
>
> any ideas.....budget approx £200 uk pound/ $400 usd..
>
> thanks!
>
Yes Taylor's NS line are slightly slimmer. The comments on tone being
so-so could be true, bt they make at least three different models in
the NS line with different tops and such so the sound will vary quite
a bit depending on which one you try. I like them myself. I play a
Godin nylon string, but that's nowhere near a regular body and is
meant to be amplified, which it does a great job at by the way. Every
time I try and amplify a regular body style nylon string it's
disappointing, but I love the Godin.
That's the only one's I know of with a slimmer neck.
Good luck.
RB
lukeja...@gmail.com
> Trying to find a nylon string guitar with full body but a slim neck as
> I do not get on well with standard classical guitars with wide necks.
>
> I dont mind if the guitar has a truss rod or cutaway as i am not a
> purist but I would prefer it to have a normal sized depth body so it
> will have a good acoustic tone
The Cordoba Fusion Series has the right specifications.
I am not sure if they have a decent sound or whether they are yet
available.
http://www.acousticguitar.com/video/videoindex.aspx?issueid=967#
look for John Thomas Cordoba Guitars.
I personally find my 52mm nut width good for practice but difficult in
most Jazz settings.
I am also looking for narrower neck. Even a step down to 50mm may be
good enough.
Tim McNamara
<83a08b1b-f6cc-4e05...@l17g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
lukeja...@gmail.com wrote:
I just got a classical (Takamine EC132C) and am loving the larger neck
and longer scale. The neck, while normal width, is thinner and flatter
on the back which seems to make a significant difference.