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Archtop guitar pickguard assemblies and buzzing.

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DanielleOM

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May 23, 2010, 8:28:47 PM5/23/10
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It seems that every archtop guitar I have owned has had some elusive
intermittant mechanical buzz related to the pickguard assembly. Am I the
only one?


Danielle

guitarannie

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May 23, 2010, 11:11:13 PM5/23/10
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On May 23, 5:28 pm, "DanielleOM" <daniell...@reply.to.group.com>
wrote:
You are not the only one.
I remove them because they rattle and they are in the way and that
way they don't get scratched.

Also I never understood why the pick need to be guarded. It's
perfectly safe in my hand as I'm trying to rip it's little head off.

SAS

Carl

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May 24, 2010, 12:26:59 AM5/24/10
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Annie- I'm surprised at you. It's not the pick that needs to be guarded.
It's the guard that needs to be picked. :-)


Nate Najar

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May 24, 2010, 8:23:10 AM5/24/10
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On May 23, 8:28 pm, "DanielleOM" <daniell...@reply.to.group.com>
wrote:

take it off. Bucky advised me of that a few years ago. It made good
sense!

N

pmfan57

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May 24, 2010, 10:18:13 AM5/24/10
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I need one so that my pinky can touch it for reference (I don't anchor
it though). I guess I could do without it if I had to.

Michael L Kankiewicz

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May 24, 2010, 1:20:00 PM5/24/10
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The rattling noises come from the screws and hardware. Just remove
all the metal hardware, and glue the thing to the guitar. Slather a big
glob of epoxy onto the back of the guard, spread it evenly all around,
then press it against the guitar top where you want it. Wipe away the
excess epoxy that ozzes out onto the top, and let it dry overnight. You
won't have to worry about it ever again.

Bg

unread,
May 24, 2010, 2:33:41 PM5/24/10
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I've never had a buzzing pickguard, but buzzing Bridge pickups springs
definitely.
It doesn't matter to me if threre's a pickguard or not, I have a
guitar with and a guitar without it.

Bg

Bg

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May 24, 2010, 2:35:35 PM5/24/10
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Heh, Benedetto calls it a fingerrest.
Bg

DannyW.

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May 24, 2010, 10:04:24 PM5/24/10
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On May 24, 11:35 am, Bg <ottg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Heh, Benedetto calls it a fingerrest.
> Bg

Gibson beat them to it by about 50 years.

Danny W.

Tim McNamara

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May 25, 2010, 12:05:47 AM5/25/10
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In article
<778ba5ff-3dd6-4720...@w3g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
Nate Najar <na...@natenajar.com> wrote:

Since the pickups on both my archtops are attached to the pickguard,
this might create some complications... ;-)

David J. Littleboy

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May 25, 2010, 1:11:21 AM5/25/10
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Also, the pickguard's the right place to mount the volume/tone controls. (I
like the tone control on a hidden thumbwheel under the pickguard and just
the tone control on top best.)

Besides, in my experience, as long as the guitar isn't a Gibson, nothing
rattles/buzzes. If it is, everything does...

--
David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan


Graham

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May 26, 2010, 7:35:17 AM5/26/10
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My Gibson 175 had a terrible buzz for years. Eventually I worked out
that the design of the lower end of the pickguard near the bridge
meant it just rested on the pickup mounting, with no fixing point or
screw. So it was free to vibrate against the pickup mounting as much
as it liked.

A small blob of Blu-tak sandwiched invisibly between the pickguard and
the pickup mount solved it.

Having said that, I still sometimes get other mysterious rattles from
within the pickup mounts. But they're much quieter.


Graham

george4908

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May 26, 2010, 9:26:54 AM5/26/10
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> Having said that, I still sometimes get other mysterious rattles from
> within the pickup mounts.  But they're much quieter.

This is often easily cured by replacing the mounting springs with a
short section of surgical tubing.

DanielleOM

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May 30, 2010, 1:51:34 PM5/30/10
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The guitar is an Eastman AR805CE with the narrow Chuck Wayne style
pickguard. The pickup is attached to the pickguard. The pickguard has a
litle piece of wood attached to the pickguard. That piece of wood is
attached to the neck by screws that screw into the neck. Those screws are
tight. If I wedge a little foam between the pickguard and the guitar near
the pickup area that helps, but has a negative affect on acoustic tone. Bb
causes it give the annoying mechanical buzz.

The Johnny Smith with dual pickups cured itself. The pickguard
disintegrated over time.


Danielle

rpjazzguitar

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May 30, 2010, 6:55:05 PM5/30/10
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My Gibsons only seem to rattle at the tuners. Now and then I have to
tighten the little screws.

Buzzing is vibration of something against something else, and, there's
apparently a resonant frequency at Bb.

If it was an uncomplicated pickguard, you'd just have to touch
different parts of it until you found one that makes the buzzing stop
-- and then improvise some way to either stop the movement or stop the
contact. I'd be looking for the spot where attaching a tiny piece of
foam solves the problem.

With the pickups attached, there are many more possibilities,but,
still, something is vibrating against something else. you have to
figure out where that's happening and hope that a solution suggests
itself.

DanielleOM

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May 30, 2010, 7:23:29 PM5/30/10
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With this pickup one end is attached to the pickguard and the other end is
separated from the guitar top with a small fibre like spacing material. If
I put a little piece of paper cut from a 4 X6 file card under the fibre, the
problem seems to go away.

Danielle

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