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Charlie Christian letter from Jerry Newhouse

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Graham

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Nov 24, 2010, 7:56:13 AM11/24/10
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Check out the second message on this thread - it contains a facsimile
of a fascinating letter from Jerry Newhouse to John Hammond (Columbia
Records) which is not only quite amusing, but contains some intriguing
details about a 1939 Charlie Christian jam session, which Newhouse
recorded.

http://forums.allaboutjazz.com/showthread.php?t=20102

Graham

Bob Russell

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Nov 24, 2010, 8:34:29 AM11/24/10
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Graham

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Nov 24, 2010, 9:22:11 AM11/24/10
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At first I thought this was the same guy who recorded Charlie at the
famous Mintons session, but it turns out rather confusingly that
Jerome Newhouse recorded him in 1939 while Jerry Newman recorded him
at Mintons in 1941.

Graham

southtexasguitarist

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Nov 24, 2010, 9:58:09 AM11/24/10
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Interesting that this occurred in the Twin Cities, Minnesota. Oscar
Pettiford was from there, and Lester Young's family was based there
for a while.

van

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Nov 24, 2010, 5:57:16 PM11/24/10
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Although RB has stated that CC is totally irrelevant to jazz players
of today, is that session available on a recording?
I heard an interview a few years back with Jerry Jerome on NPR, and as
of then, he was still playing.
For those of a more literary bent, there are some great essays by
Ralph Ellison ("Invisible Man") on growing up with CC in Oklahoma.


Graham

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Nov 24, 2010, 6:36:09 PM11/24/10
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On Nov 24, 10:57 pm, van <sg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Although RB has stated that CC is totally irrelevant to jazz players
> of today, is that session available on a recording?
> I heard an interview a few years back with Jerry Jerome on NPR, and as
> of then, he was still playing.
> For those of a more literary bent, there are some great essays by
> Ralph Ellison ("Invisible Man") on growing up with CC in Oklahoma.

Listening to Charlie is essential as far as I'm concerned. 'Swing to
Bop' would be a desert-island disc for me!

That session looks hard to find under CC's name, though I recently
managed to find a secondhand copy of the Proper box set which I think
has these tracks. But a quick search suggests you can get them on
this Jerry Jerome CD:

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/3004491/a/Something+Borrowed,+Something+Blue.htm

Graham

drthoma...@gmail.com

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Nov 24, 2010, 7:13:28 PM11/24/10
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Correct, he was recorded with Jerry Jerome by Jerome Newhouse, not
Jerry Newman.

Graham

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Nov 24, 2010, 7:21:18 PM11/24/10
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On Nov 25, 12:13 am, "tombr...@jhu.edu" <drthomasfbr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Correct, he was recorded with Jerry Jerome by Jerome Newhouse, not
> Jerry Newman.

Just how many Jerries did it take to make a live recording in those
days?

Keith Freeman

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Nov 24, 2010, 10:02:35 PM11/24/10
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> Just how many Jerries did it take to make a live recording in those
> days?
It took a whole jerrycan to get it in the can <GDR>

-Keith

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TomfromTexas

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Nov 25, 2010, 12:54:39 PM11/25/10
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"Graham" <grah...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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Everything was Jerryrigged back then.

--
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Gerry

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Nov 25, 2010, 1:05:44 PM11/25/10
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On 2010-11-25 09:54:39 -0800, TomfromTexas said:

> "Graham" <grah...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:ac2530c1-b542-47df...@v19g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 25, 12:13 am, "tombr...@jhu.edu" <drthomasfbr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Correct, he was recorded with Jerry Jerome by Jerome Newhouse, not
>> Jerry Newman.
>
> Just how many Jerries did it take to make a live recording in those
> days?
>
> Everything was Jerryrigged back then.

Are you guys about finished...?
--
-- Gerry

TomfromTexas

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Nov 25, 2010, 1:09:51 PM11/25/10
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"Gerry" <add...@domain.com> wrote in message
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I heard there's a recording with all players named Jerry called Jerrys
Jubilee.

peter jung

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Nov 25, 2010, 1:52:34 PM11/25/10
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Found this reference to the session -

http://home.roadrunner.com/~valdes/xTea%204%202.htm

drthoma...@gmail.com

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Nov 25, 2010, 4:24:25 PM11/25/10
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On Nov 25, 12:52 pm, peter jung <peterjung...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Found this reference to the session -
>
> http://home.roadrunner.com/~valdes/xTea%204%202.htm

And here is the track referred therein:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAWlyg44oIQ

Tim McNamara

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Nov 25, 2010, 7:39:38 PM11/25/10
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In article <icm8p9$g93$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"TomfromTexas" <tris...@aol.com> wrote:

> "Gerry" <add...@domain.com> wrote in message
> news:2010112510054410855-address@domaincom...
> > On 2010-11-25 09:54:39 -0800, TomfromTexas said:
> >
> > > "Graham" <grah...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> > >
> news:ac2530c1-b542-47df...@v19g2000yqa.googlegroups.com
> ...
> > > On Nov 25, 12:13 am, "tombr...@jhu.edu"
> > > <drthomasfbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Correct, he was recorded with Jerry Jerome by Jerome Newhouse,
> > >> not Jerry Newman.
> > >
> > > Just how many Jerries did it take to make a live recording in
> > > those days?
> > >
> > > Everything was Jerryrigged back then.
> >
> > Are you guys about finished...? --
> > -- Gerry
> >
>
> I heard there's a recording with all players named Jerry called
> Jerrys Jubilee.

Shake it up now, Sugaree
I'll see you at the jubilee
And if that jubilee don't come
Maybe I'll see you on the run...
- Jerry Garcia and Robert Hunter

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Bill Williams

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