I'm not trying to start a "my dad can beat up your dad," but many
guitarists were doing or had done what Garland was doing on that record
at the time it was recorded. Listen to Tal Farlow's sides from the early
1950's, for example, or Barney Kessel's "Poll Winners" with Ray Brown
and Shelley Manne. The Garland record is good, no doubt about it, but
certainly not particularly new.
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'm not trying to start a "my dad can beat up your dad," but many
>guitarists were doing or had done what Garland was doing on that record
>at the time it was recorded. Listen to Tal Farlow's sides from the early
>1950's, for example, or Barney Kessel's "Poll Winners" with Ray Brown
>and Shelley Manne. The Garland record is good, no doubt about it, but
>certainly not particularly new.
Clay. I agree with you. Besides the incredible playing on the record,
I think that most people were just amazed that anything like this
could come out of Nashville. If you have listened to the Nashville
offerings by the hot session musicians lately you might agree that the
"Jazz Winds" recording by Garland is still light years ahead when it
comes to actually sounding like a Jazz recording.
These guys like Brent Mason and Mark O'Conner are great players no
doubt, but the downfall of the recordings is that they always get
their Nashville buddies to play in the rhythm section and their
Jazz/swing feel is just (how can I put this
nicely)------------interesting . On the other hand when you do hire a
real Jazz group to record with, it will put you on the spot big time.
You better be able to play in that environment or you will
sound------------interesting!
Garland went out of Nashville to get real Jazz musicians. Maybe these
Nashville guys should take a hint.
Yeah, great record, but enough. There were many records as good in a
similar vein, that I do not understand why this one is worshipped so
much. It is a peculiar date, because I guess Garland was a session guy
and mostly into the Nashville thing, then did this one. And I guess he
did not do too much more than that. But, listening to it, it is a very
good record and that's about it.
John R>
John I seldom post any response to your thoughts but I can't let this go without some input. If you cannot see why this record is worshipped and that it is only a very good record, then I think you are not a critic I can take seriously. This record was cut in 1960-61 and to me it stands as one of the all time greats from any era of music. Not many played like this then and I have not heard anything like it since.
His Jazz Winds From a New Direction was not anything new but
my ears say it was playing like no one else at the time. Was he the greatest
ever, no equals as a player? No, I won't play that game.THis was just one
of the greatest Jazz Guitar recordings of all time, and if you can't see
that then you missed something. Flame away.
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Mark,
My point is that there were scores of other jazz guitar masterpieces
released in that time frame by guys like Raney, Kessel, Farlow etc....
and I am not sure this is any more significant musically than those.
Just a very good date, but it stands out in a marketing sense because
it was not a common date from a guy like Garland. So, worship and
enjoy....
John R>
this web site is offering a cd of garland live, cut at a
nashville club called the carousel. title is "live at the carousel";
apparently marketed only thru this web site, probably on a private label.
has anyone heard it??
would appreciate track listing and any comments on sound quality or liner
notes, whatever would assist a prospective purchaser.
> My point is that there were scores of other jazz guitar masterpieces
> released in that time frame by guys like Raney, Kessel, Farlow etc....
> and I am not sure this is any more significant musically than those.
> Just a very good date, but it stands out in a marketing sense because
> it was not a common date from a guy like Garland. So, worship and
> enjoy....
>
> John R>
>
If that's true, why no equal praise for Roy Lanham's few jazz outings (like
"The Fabulous Roy Lanham")???
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Did he play country and studio stuff, then suddenly record jazz records?
To second another poster's question (back to the original question) has
anyone heard the cd that is being offered at the website (not the ever
popular Jazz Winds cd)?
John R>
Steve
: >
: > If that's true, why no equal praise for Roy Lanham's few jazz outings (like
: > "The Fabulous Roy Lanham")???
: >
:
: Did he play country and studio stuff, then suddenly record jazz records?
that is pretty much what he did; he was known as a western swing and country
player on the west coast. he did 3 lps over the course of 3 or 4 years which
were in a pop/jazz vein (early 60s); 2 of the 3 are now on cd.