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I have also had one for a month or more. I play it in trio (drums,
elec bass) and solo settings, and have had great luck with it. Charlie
did a great job describing it, so I won't bother.
In my mind it is at the upper end of the 80% in the 80/20 rule. It is
about 80% as good as any other jazz amp I have heard, and costs half or
less of an AI/RE rig. That 20% more quality comes at twice the price,
which for me, isn't worth it at this time (diminishing returns). My
only complaint is that mine didn't come with the top mounted handle.
-TD
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Sounds like it's definitely got enough power. I've always been a little
curious about the single 8" speaker. Warm enough?
Ted
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"Ted Vieira" <contac...@tedREMOVEvieiraREMOVE.com> wrote in message
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I've tried one and in my opinion it cann't compare with Poly IV or a good
amp with 12", let alone that it will give you enough power depth in a large
concert hall. Nevertheles it is a nice little box with agreeable sound for
small clubs or practicing at home.
Just to add balance and perspective to the recommendations.
As a result of the many praises of the Jazzkat on RRMGJ I made a trip
to a music store in Toronto a couple of weeks ago to possibly pick one
up (I had the cash in hand).
I tested a Jazzkat (new version with handle on top) side by side with a
Roland Cube 30 and a Fender Blues Junior.
I plugged an expensive archtop into the Jazzkat and the first thing
that came at me was a buzz. The speaker was two feet from my ears (the
room was about 12x8 ft.)
I just couldn't get a decent sound from the amp. It sounded like an 8"
amp.
Did not have the full warm sound that a 10" or 12" (preferably) will
give you.
I also brought a mic with me expecting to plug guitar and mic into the
amp but I didn't even bother with the mic.
I ran through all of the effects, by feel, couldn't make out the tiny
writing.
The reverb was the only effect that seemed useable.
Next I plugged into the Roland Cube 30.
Big difference. I have one of these amps at home. Now I had a full warm
jazz sound.
Sure a 12" speaker would be even nicer, but would add to the weight.
Then I plugged into the Fender Junior. It was a total disaster. I had
tried this amp a few times before with the same results.
If I were you, I'd A/B the Jazzkat with a Roland Cube 30 or 60 before
making any purchases.
Ric
Maybe you tried a defective amp. It seems way too many working pro
jazz guitarists use these amps for it to be as bad as you report
(absent a problem with the particular amp).
It has to be better than that to be worth the asking price. If it's
going to sit in one place (like your practice area) you should get a
fender tube amp, say a Twin. The world's heaviest guitar amp.
Where? Who's carrying these in TO?
--
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I think that a Mesa MKIV combo w/EV is a bit heavier than a Twin. It'd
be close though.
OK. Both are built of solid neutronium.
I am sure you have already found the link:
http://www.12fret.com/new/JazzKat_Amplifiers_pg.html
Danielle
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Dave
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> HP wrote:
>> Jazz guitar amp with a single eight speaker.Thoughts?
>
>
Dave
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I almost bought a Peavey Transtube Bandit the other day though, the
current ones with the red stripe on the bottom. It sounded great for
jazz (better than my Pearce, I thought...And I had the Pearce there to
A/B...And I like my Pearce much more than my Clarus/T-8 rig), not too
bad for pop/R&B chording, and the overdrive sounds were passable.
The R&B chording capabilities weren't quite what I like though. It
seemed impossible to get a really glassy bright sound out of the amp.
(The Pearce has a great, bright, full, R&B chording sound, and you can
overdrive it a bit too if you want for Steve Cropper type things). Of
course I was using one of the store's guitars and it was of questionable
quality. I think these amps would sound better with an EVM-12L, but the
Peavey Sheffield speaker sounded pretty good.
I've been hearing a few drummers complain about the down-firing speakers
in the Coda amps. They claim it's too hard to hear the attack of the
bass so it's hard to lock the time together with the bass player.
The Codas also seem to be less than ideal depending on the room
characteristics, especially the floor material.
Not sure I'd want those problems in a guitar amp.
Of course I'm speaking out of my ass here seeing as how I've never
played through a Corus.
No I didn't hit the ground switch. It could have been that or as
PMfan says a defective amp.
Leaving the hum aside though, the guitar sound was clean, but just not
full and round as was the case with the Cube 30.
> pmfan57 wrote:
> > aliaz wrote:
> >> "HP" <7cap...@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
> >> news:1166546972.1...@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >>> Jazz guitar amp with a single eight speaker.Thoughts?
> >>>
> >> I've tried one and in my opinion it cann't compare with Poly IV or
> >> a good amp with 12", let alone that it will give you enough power
> >> depth in a large concert hall. Nevertheles it is a nice little box
> >> with agreeable sound for small clubs or practicing at home.
> >
> > It has to be better than that to be worth the asking price. If
> > it's going to sit in one place (like your practice area) you should
> > get a fender tube amp, say a Twin. The world's heaviest guitar
> > amp.
> >
>
> I think that a Mesa MKIV combo w/EV is a bit heavier than a Twin.
> It'd be close though.
I think my Pro Reverb with 2 JBLs loaded into it would be a contender.
To think I used to haul that thing to play at various places, up and
down stairs into my apartment- now I can't hardly even pick the darned
thing off the floor.
I had 2 EVM's in a JC-120 at one time! Ouch.
I may even tried that with a Twin!
> >
>
> I've been hearing a few drummers complain about the down-firing speakers
> in the Coda amps. They claim it's too hard to hear the attack of the
> bass so it's hard to lock the time together with the bass player.
> The Codas also seem to be less than ideal depending on the room
> characteristics, especially the floor material.
> Not sure I'd want those problems in a guitar amp.
> Of course I'm speaking out of my ass here seeing as how I've never
> played through a Corus.
>
I play with four bass players who use AI Contras. I've never heard a
drummer complain about their sound.
The attack of a bass note comes from the upper harmonics, which are
handled by the Coda/Contra/Corus's front-firing mid-range.
Danny W.
Many people speak out of their ass but at least I think you something say.
Some speak of their ass and you can figure out what probably come out. But
for what it is worth Dave has nailed the situation, if you have no money
issues get the AI an a cab. Money is always and issue so the jazzkat may be
it, I am sure it is worth a polytone. OH, I am speaking out of my ass since
I have not done the comparison.
--
Mark Cleary
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Well, I might as well jump in on this with my own "unusual" take on it.
I've had the JazzKat, a Clarus/RE combo and a Clarus/Contra cab. I had my
own issues with the Clarus/Contra downfiring speaker and problems with
miking, so I'll leave that out. I wanted a combo rather than the Clarus/RE
business because of the 1.5 seconds it took me to attach the head to the
speaker cab.
OK, so I went with the JazzKat. Nice little amp, but 8 doesn't equal 10 or
12 no matter how you slice it.
But, here was my real issue (OK you guys are going to kill me), When I play
I like to take everything out of my pockets. Keys, wallet, cell phone,
sunglasses, extra picks. Then maybe I'm carrying a folder of charts. And
you've got to have a latte with you. Where does all this crap go during a
gig? Right on top of my amp. And because of the slanted face of the
JazzKat, the top surface was quite small and would not accommodate all of my
"accoutrements." Kept falling on the floor. So, I got rid of it.
Solution: I wanted a combo. Had to be traditionally shaped for the OCD
reasons listed above. Could have only one speaker. Had to be light,
powerful and the rest of the litany. Evans RE200.
But I have a custom Fuchs Jazz Classic with an Eminence 12 that I had Bob
Burt fit into the smallest possible combo cabinet. Sorry, but none of those
other rigs hold a candle to it. I'll probably keep the Evans for when I
REALLY don't want to lift, but for now I can't not play out of that Fuchs.
Anybody want to buy an Evans?
Joe Jewell
www.joejewellguitar.com
www.myspace.com/joejewell
-TD
JT
The things we do for tone!
less of an AI/RE rig. That 20% more quality comes at twice the price,
which for me, isn't worth it at this time (diminishing returns). My
only complaint is that mine didn't come with the top mounted handle.
Ditto for me, I love it, but would like the top handle.
Bg
Amazing how strong we had to be back then. I used to lug my Fender
Concert and before that my Musicman HD-130 (about as heavy as a twin,
albeit with wheels) to each gig.
Now I'll put off taking it to the shop for months because I don't want
to lug it to the car even once.
Guiiatr might have had a ground or static problem?
Bg
> Joe Jewell
>
Or you could buy a little folding table to put right next to your amp?
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I've had the same curiosity expressed in this thread about the 8" speaker,
however, some of the comments made by people using these in band situations
(w/B3's) have gotten me to thinking that this amp could serve me well for
jazz and GB gigs.
I emailed the manufacturer asking where I could find one in the Boston area.
I received a received a gramatically shaky reply, with numerous
misspellings, referring me to their web site (which has the closest dealer
in NY) and suggesting that I mail order from Jeff Hale or Legato. It amazes
me that this company hasn't figured out that Berklee is in Boston and that
there is a huge marker for an amp as portable as this in the Boston area.
Vic
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I have played in small to medium size venues with both solid body
electric and my Eastman (floating Johnny Smith p/u) with a trio,
quartet and quintet (with drums). I have no problem cutting through the
mix. I usually have the master knob at 9 o'clock to 12 o'clock and the
individual gain knobs are usually at 9-12 o'clock as well. I usually
keep the eq at 12 o'clock. The effects I keep light, using the first
reverb setting with the level knob at 8-9 o'clock set for both
channels.
The quartet is a gyspy jazz group (Minor Swing) and I use the xlr to
mike the guitar as well as with the p/u. I am very happy with my gear,
simple to use and easy to carry (my Eastman case gets tons of comments
even before I open it up to show off the guitar).
Merry Christmas,
Victor
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs1BM9g2Ggw
>
> myles
Thanks for that Leean Years clip, Myles
Bg
> I emailed the manufacturer asking where I could find one in the
> Boston area. I received a received a gramatically shaky reply, with
> numerous misspellings, referring me to their web site (which has the
> closest dealer in NY) and suggesting that I mail order from Jeff Hale
> or Legato. It amazes me that this company hasn't figured out that
> Berklee is in Boston and that there is a huge marker for an amp as
> portable as this in the Boston area.
That doesn't amaze me as much as the Boston music stores that haven't
figured out that they could sell JazzCats. I'm sure that the
manufacturer would be happy to sell amps to any Boston music store.
>I play with four bass players who use AI Contras. I've never heard a
>drummer complain about their sound.
Is this a jazz version of Spinal Tap? Man, I would love to hear you
guys! :-)
Not all at the same time! :-)
Danny W.
Sign on tank truck in Maine: "Bob's septic tank and pool service. Not
same truck."
Thanks Charlie,
Ted
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On 12/19/06 10:33 AM, in article
79idnZk0d70brRXY...@comcast.com, "charles robinson"
<robins...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I was worried about that too but needlessly. I guess it must have something
> to do with the design of the cabinet, it sounds like it is a larger speaker.
> Charlie
>
> "Ted Vieira" <contac...@tedREMOVEvieiraREMOVE.com> wrote in message
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>> On 12/19/06 9:11 AM, in article
>> zKudnYERwLXAgBXY...@comcast.com, "charles robinson"
>> <robins...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I've had one for a month now. It is lightweight, powerful and capable of
>>> handling everything that I do. I play jazz gigs which range in volume
>>> levels
>>> from organ groups to solo guitar. With an organ group recently I was told
>>> that I could come down some. I played a huge lobby of an Art Museum that
>>> was packed with people there for a party with a guitar, bass and drums
>>> trio
>>> and had more than enough power. It gets a sound not unlike that of an
>>> early
>>> Polytone. I don't know how it would perform on rock or fusion gigs,
>>> someone
>>> else will have to answer for that but for the types of gigs that I do
>>> there
>>> is more than enough power, it has a great sound with my 175, it is very
>>> quiet and it's lightweight one piece construction makes it easy to
>>> transport.I keep another amp in the trunk that I can link it to should it
>>> ever be needed but that hasn't happened yet and I doubt if it ever will.
>>> The
>>> price is fairly reasonable for a high powered (110w) small (one eight in.
>>> speaker) amp. I'm more than happy with it.
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> "HP" <7cap...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1166546969.7...@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Jazz guitar amp with a single eight speaker.Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sounds like it's definitely got enough power. I've always been a little
>> curious about the single 8" speaker. Warm enough?
>>
>> Ted
>>
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JT
Dave
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> Dave Stephens wrote:
>> I think the JazzKat is a very good value, but I'd spend a little more and
>> get an AI Corus if it were my only amp and I were using high end
>> archtops. The combination of compactness, light weight and good sound is
>> hard to beat in this price class.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> "HP" <7cap...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166546969.7...@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
>>> Jazz guitar amp with a single eight speaker.Thoughts?
>>>
>>
>>
>
> I've been hearing a few drummers complain about the down-firing speakers
> in the Coda amps. They claim it's too hard to hear the attack of the bass
> so it's hard to lock the time together with the bass player.
> The Codas also seem to be less than ideal depending on the room
> characteristics, especially the floor material.
> Not sure I'd want those problems in a guitar amp.
> Of course I'm speaking out of my ass here seeing as how I've never played
> through a Corus.
>
Oh, the distortion channel also sucks. It's noisy and any decent level and
has a really hard, solid-state at it's worst kind of tone. Boss makes tons
of superior pedals.
My praise may seem underwhelming, but I find myself using the amp a lot when
I play fingerstyle. It also matches well with my Boss GT-6 multi-effects
pedal. It's good looking, fairly light and compact, seemingly well made and
good sounding. It's a shame that the matching cabs sucks so bad, making it
hard to really hear it at its best unless you're at some place like J.
Hale's where there'll be an army of other cabs to try. In the next month or
two I'll take it to a rehearsal to see if it'll deliver enough power with
either a NY8-ER or Redstone RS10-ER.
Personally, I'd trust it over a Polytone any day and it IS competitively
priced. I think a lot of people will like it with a T8 cab.
Dave
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I just used my jazzmaster ultralight with a redstone 8" to record a new
trio CD in a great studio in Charlotte, NC. The engineer/owner told me
that it was the quietest rig that he had ever had in his studio ever,
and he was going out to purchase one. That says a lot to me...I also
love it for portability and power both. I still use my Heritage
Freedon 38 for tube amp, but my polytones are long gone...
Vince Lewis
www.vincelewis.com
JT,
I don't have any clips right now unfortunately. I didn't have the amp
for the recordings I did earlier this year. I'm also a bit unorganized
right now moving into a new house (which is having a direct effect on
my guitar buying options).
-Dan
Dave S.
Have you tried the Ultralight with any 4 ohm cabs (RE TWin 8"s etc)?
Bg
-Keith
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Off topic re: places to sit when your amp is too small. Part of my
reason buying the JazzKat, I was using a Behringer ACX1000, was due to
portability. But now that I can't sit on my amp, I carry a stool around
too. Go figure.
Victor
Item #170063294495
I've recently started playing through an AER 40 and LOVE it! True
sound in a tiny package!
Next, I'm on the hunt for a Polytone Baby Brute - Anyone have one for
sale? :-)
Cheers,
-Thomas Cray
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