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Sorceror777

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May 6, 2001, 8:18:35 PM5/6/01
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What are some practicing methods/exercises (from mystical to practical) you
folks do to develop your time? Regardless of the musical genre (triplet-based
or even eighth note music), just obtaining and strengthening a rock-steady
internal evenly consistent quarter note pulse.

Thanks in advance,
-jesse

crib

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May 6, 2001, 9:18:16 PM5/6/01
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some thoughts...

1.) count along to EVERYTHING (jazz, rock, pop, classical, country, rap,
muzak...whatever). count quarter notes, eighth-note subdivision, sixteenth-note
subdivision, eighth-note triplet subdivision, quarter-note triplet subdivision,
eighth-note quintuplet subdivision, etc.

2.) buy a metronome. (a metronome, by the way, does NOT make a stupid little
beeping noise. a metronome has a pendulum that swings, and makes a clicking
noise. the type of noise doesn't particularly make a difference. the presence
of the visual -- the pendulum -- makes a HUGE difference.)

3.) play along with the metronome. watch the metronome. listen to the
metronome. play along in your head, without an instrument, to the metronome.

4.) learn a tune, and get a partner. together with your partner, sing (don't
play) the first four bars. silently follow the rest of the song in your heads.
when the form comes around again, sing the first four bars. do either of you
think the other seemed late? early? repeat. use different tunes. (i wish i
could remember from whom i picked up this great exercise. i think it was joe
maneri.)

5.) learn to tap your limbs in polyrhythms -- two-against-three,
five-against-two, etc. left hand against right hand, left hand against right
foot, right hand against right foot, etc.

6.) set a metronome to a tempo. don't play along, don't sing along, and don't
count. breathe. don't try to hit every quarter note (unless you're using a very
slow tempo), or you'll get dizzy. work out a comfortable rhythm -- inhale and
exhale on half-notes, or every other "one," or "one" every four bars, etc.

crib

Willie K. Yee, MD

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May 6, 2001, 10:48:46 PM5/6/01
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Set the metronome or your click on a drum machine to play only the 1st
beat of each 4-beat measure. Most metronomes won't let you do this at 60
bpm.

I have been doing this for a month, and although i am rhythmically
challenged, it seems to be helping.

The next step would be to set it for one out of eight beats. If you can
consistent play eight beats and end up on one, then you are getting good
time. Then there'e 16 beats, 32 beats, 64 beats . . .

--
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Peter Inglis

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May 7, 2001, 12:41:44 AM5/7/01
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DO a lot of walking - Rhythms in music are based on bodily movement.
The crotchet generally represents steps in a walk.
see: http://www.migman.com/aes/theory/rhythm.htm
-
Peter Inglis <whole...@one.net.au>
Author of "The Whole Guitarist" <www.migman.com/aes>

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Paul Sanwald

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May 7, 2001, 12:10:26 PM5/7/01
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the first step is learning to recognize when something is solid and in time,
and when something isn't. Then, listen to records that are really in the
pocket (anything by james brown comes to mind) and play along, tap along,
sing along. Just get it in your head what it feels like to play with that
kind of time.

also, when you're playing a gig or something, try to make an effort to
figure out at what tempo range your time needs improvement. inevitably
you're going to sound stronger on certain tempos and weaker on others.
Figure out where your strong and weak points are, and figure out how to make
the weaker tempos sound like the stronger ones. Recording yourself playing
might help a whole lot. By doing this, and listening back to yourself, you
might find you need to work in different areas than you thought. It's an
invaluable help. btw, if you can spring for it, minidisc recorders are
really, really great.

--paul

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William Barkin

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May 7, 2001, 10:45:54 AM5/7/01
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Snap your fingers on the 2 and 4 when listening to jazz recordings...

-Bill

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Joe Finn

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May 7, 2001, 11:38:58 AM5/7/01
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Take whatever grooves you can now play well and just play the hell out of
them. Keep going and going. Repetition is the whole point here. Lay it down
as strong as you can for as long as possible. Sort of like those drum circle
guys do. ...joe

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Mr.Will

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May 8, 2001, 3:07:42 PM5/8/01
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I do alot of percussion work in the community etc.
One thing that works really well in Samba training, especially with little kids
etc. is to have them marching. In essence you have to do this to keep all in
time. The big drums (Surdos) have two pitches. The higher pitch is on the "one"
the lower on the "two". Basically get the feet moving to this "pulse". Either
with the surdo's or without if you're not attempting Samba.

To get a pulse we need TWO beats.
Then put your rhythm over the feet movements.

Be aware that this DOES add a level of problems though. For instance once your
legs get tired you will slow down etc. but RELATING rhythm to simple ONE and
TWO foot movements is a very good way of developing time.

So if you were going to practice triplets, you would get (right foot + clap),
(clap) (clap), (left foot + clap), (clap), (clap).
Moving the hands across the body between the feet can help too.....ie dividing
the distance into 3 equal measures.

Hope I explained this OK.
Mr.Will

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Colin Cotter

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May 9, 2001, 4:36:26 PM5/9/01
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> 5.) learn to tap your limbs in polyrhythms -- two-against-three,
> five-against-two, etc. left hand against right hand, left hand against right
> foot, right hand against right foot, etc.

Yes - I annoy my friends and family constantly with this. Also my

Appalachian step dancing thing.

--
************
Colin Cotter
************

Colin Cotter

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May 9, 2001, 4:40:09 PM5/9/01
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> Snap your fingers on the 2 and 4 when listening to jazz recordings...

Ideally done whilst wearing a beret and black turtle-neck. and a little
moustache...

Bob Russell

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May 9, 2001, 7:47:39 AM5/9/01
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in article 3AF9AB29...@ic.ac.uk, Colin Cotter at colin....@ic.ac.uk
wrote on 5/9/01 4:40 PM:

>> Snap your fingers on the 2 and 4 when listening to jazz recordings...
>
> Ideally done whilst wearing a beret and black turtle-neck. and a little
> moustache...

Crazy, man!
-- Bob Russell
http://www.uncwil.edu/people/russellr

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