http://www.dangelicodirect.com/store/pc/home.asp
Other are selling them for much more!!
http://www.jhalemusic.com/pages/DAngelico.html
http://www.guitargal.com/dangelico.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260047719749
>D'Angelico is selling the Excel EXL-1DP and other Excels online for
>$800!!!
>
Amazing price. Are they going out of business, do you think? I had
heard that they were putting the NYL back in production, but there's
no mention of it on the website.
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Without music, life is a mistayke.
Friedrich "Spelling R Us" Nietzsche
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Max Leggett wrote:
> On 4 Nov 2006 19:41:43 -0800, "invisaman75" <wvt75-...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >D'Angelico is selling the Excel EXL-1DP and other Excels on-line for
Thanks for finding this and posting it.
As someone who objects to putting pickups and knobs on the top of a
nominally acoustic instrument, I'm one happy camper. While I love my Ibanez
AF105FNT, I'd like something slightly larger and with spruce top. (So much
for gas-free monogamy!)
This is on my short list: http://www.walkin.co.jp/guitars/128689.htm
It's a pressed spruce laminate top, and I didn't like the only one such
instrument I've ever played. Also this one's about US$3000, which is crazed
price for a pressed spruce laminate top. Sigh. (I like the pickguard and
tailpiece a _lot_ better than the D'Angelico ones. But US$2300 better? Hmm.)
However, I do like it's a thin body (2.5"). The D'Angelico is 3", the L5
3-3/8".
"invisaman75" <wvt75-...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I heard DA pissed off a few resellers with their on-line pricing and
> the NYL will be done in Japan but not by Vestax.
Maybe they noticed the price of the Ibanez AFT105FNT.
I'd always thought the Eastman (made in China) guitars were overpriced.
Still, Ibanez has a lot of experience mass producing guitars, and it'll be
interesting to see if whomever it is that makes the D'Angelicos can match
Ibanez in the quality control department.
>> Amazing price. Are they going out of business, do you think?
Hopefully just matching Ibanez.
Still, how many people want a floating PUP jazz box? To make money mass
producing things you have to sell a lot...
David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan
Andy D.
> I'd always thought the Eastman (made in China) guitars were overpriced.
huh? these are very fancy hand carved guitars with a street price in
the teens
"invisaman75" <wvt75-...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1162698103.6...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> D'Angelico is selling the Excel EXL-1DP and other Excels online for
> $800!!!
I can think of few things that would anger their dealers as much as this.
Seems like a very short sighted strategy.
Maybe they're cheaper in the states. Over here, they're in the same price
range as the ES-165 and ES-175 Gibsons.
Marty
>I've tried the D'Angelicos and the Eastman; the D'Angelicos were $1200
>- $1500, while the Eastman I ended up buying was $1800. (It's a NAMM
>special 805, with MOP inlays and ebony buttons, etc. VERY nice.) I
>didn't think the D'Angelicos were in the same class as the Eastman as
>far as bang for the buck, but $800? I just ordered the EXL1-DP in wine
>red... $800? Yeah, they're DEFINITELY worth that price. (Worth more,
>but 800???? DAMN...)
Post a review: tha price is unbeatable.
--Eric Elias
><snip...>
>
> David J. Littleboy
> Tokyo, Japan
The D'Angelico NYL5 is 2.25" at the rims. I see these sometimes at
dealers or on ebay.
The Gibson L-5 CT is 2.375" at the rims, although I've got them as thin
as 2" and as deep as 2.5". The Gibson Byrdland is 2.25" deep. While
these are standard with a 23.5" scale, Gibson has built some with
24.75" or 25.5" scales.
Danny W.
"This recipient is currently unable to receive money."
Has anyone tried paypal?
dave
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 04:50:24 GMT, kidk...@gmail.com (Max Leggett)
wrote:
"invisaman75" <wvt75-...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1162775991.0...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>I heard DA fired their internal sales teams and the solution was to go
> direct. The guitar market is in somewhat of a slump this year and I
> guess this is their "shot in the arm" to get it going again.
>
It'll be interesting to see if this is a viable long-term strategy. Without
a guitar that I can play sitting at my local dealer, I'd certainly be less
likely to buy one.
It'll depend on what their returns policy is. For the cost of one-way
shipping, some number of people might be willing to try the instruments at
home for a week. What does insured shipping of a US$800 guitar cost in the
US these days???
As soon as it arrives, I'll write something up. I paid the extra for 2
day shipping (hell, $29 for two day shipping is good - it's getting
cold up here in the Green Mountains, I'd rather it doesn't spend too
much time in transit), so if they have them in stock it should be here
Wednesday.
Marty
I used the Amex - I noticed that they add $10 to the price if you use
PayPal. Did you see the same thing?
Marty
Apples and oranges. Eastmans are fancy carved top guitars. More like
L-5Cs; nothing like laminate ES-175s. I don't even think Gibson tries
to make L-5Cs any more. The closest model I know of, the much less
fancy L-7C, goes for twice what an Eastman goes for.
My dim recollection is that the faux DAs came in two separate lines,
with true carved tops being much more expensive. I played the low end
one in a shop a few years ago, and it was heavy and had poor acoustic
sound. Nobody would have confused it with a a real hand carved archtop.
I don't claim to be too knowledgeable about this line. Just wondering,
from folks who know the line well, what differentiates this $800 guitar
from your standard MIK heavy pressed top from epiphone or subway
guitars or whatever.
A couple of years ago, when the sadowsky line came out, I asked the
same question here, and got a very satisfactory answer from Roger (made
me want one).
It will be fun to A/B these two guitars. I could have 7 DA's for what
the Gibson cost. If they are close, I'll be selling that L-5.
Roger
I agree, especially for a Korean made box. I would not be a happy DA
dealer with this going on. If they are pumping out Korean junk with a
DA label it will hurt them, their dealers, and Vestax DA owners. My
fingers *did* get a little twitchy looking at the web site, but that's
just the cheap side of me twitching. I've added a couple of guitars to
the pile, but the Wes is still my best guitar "investment". It has been
my gig guitar for 99% of the time since I got it in 2001.
All the best,
Mark Guest
Jazz Guitar
"Take a music bath once or twice a week for a few seasons, and you will
find that it is to the soul what the water bath is to the body."
Oliver Wendell Holmes (1809 - 1894)
> >> "invisaman75" wrote:
> >>
> >> >D'Angelico is selling the Excel EXL-1DP and other Excels on-line for
> >> >$800!!!
>
> As someone who objects to putting pickups and knobs on the top of a
> nominally acoustic instrument, I'm one happy camper. While I love my Ibanez
> AF105FNT, I'd like something slightly larger and with spruce top. (So much
> for gas-free monogamy!)
>
> This is on my short list: http://www.walkin.co.jp/guitars/128689.htm
>
> It's a pressed spruce laminate top, and I didn't like the only one such
> instrument I've ever played. Also this one's about US$3000, which is crazed
> price for a pressed spruce laminate top. Sigh. (I like the pickguard and
> tailpiece a _lot_ better than the D'Angelico ones. But US$2300 better? Hmm.)
>
> However, I do like it's a thin body (2.5"). The D'Angelico is 3", the L5
> 3-3/8".
I'd like to know why the D'Aquistos are so much more than the D'Angelicos.
Could their tops truly be pressed one-piece solid spruce instead of
laminate?
http://www.ariausa.com/daquisto/
http://www.theguitarhouseonline.com/daquistoguitars.htm
MK
Made in Japan vs. made in China? (Just guessing, I don't know where either
is made.) Walking claims that the DQ-NYE-W and DQ-NYE-WK models are made to
their specs.
> Could their tops truly be pressed one-piece solid spruce instead of
> laminate?
http://www.walkin.co.jp/guitars/128518.htm
The fine print says that it's a pressed from a single piece and then has a
single-layer of laminate laminated onto the reverse side.
Here's one at a nice price on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/DAquisto-New-Yorker-Electric-DQ-NYE-NEW-hollowbody_W0QQit
emZ130042314162QQihZ003QQcategoryZ2384QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>Dave,
>
>I used the Amex - I noticed that they add $10 to the price if you use
>PayPal. Did you see the same thing?
>
>Marty
>
I noticed that. I tried again using Mastercard and it took it. But
today the order is still "pending".
dave
Me too, Roger.
Dave
Dave, did you get the floater or the routed one? I sense that this
thread is going to die soon, at least until one of us receives our
guitars... there are very few reviews out there but the ones I've read
so far are quite positive. I liked the regular HB version because I
can experiment with pickups easily, and because the height is
adjustable. Floaters are a PITA to experiment with, if you can
experiment at all...
I needed this like a hole in the head, but 800 bucks? Geez. That's a
serious bargain.
Looking forward to getting mine!
Roger
If you have not played the guitar, and do not know where it was
manufactured, how did you get to the conclusion that this is a "serious
bargain"? Is it from the list price or an "Internet review"? Do you
have a link to a review of this particular model of the guitar?
Maybe someone there played a $650 Ibanez AF105F and said, oh shit.
Just check pricing on the web; do a Google search. Same way you'd
research any guitar. Manufacturer List is in the $2K-$3K range for the
different models. Based on that alone, $800 is a blowout price. A
guitar of these specs at that price must be auditioned. Can't find one
in a store, so gotta buy one. If it sucks, I'll flip it - it will sell
easily for the same price on Ebay. Otherwise the suspicion of a
bargain will be realized and I'll add it to my stable, and be pleased.
Look on Harmony Central for some reviews of the EXL-1 (floater) and one
review of the EXL-1SH (routed). Generally, people seem to dig them.
They are certainly pretty! And I don't really care where it's made as
long as it's made well! Koreans have the same number of fingers and
the same potential for skill as Americans, last time I checked.
They'll just accept being paid less - which is a whole other argument
that I'm not interested in pursuing.
Marty
That's a damn good point - I'd place them in that category.
Marty
So are you guys basically saying that the DA Excel models were
overpriced semi-junk that are now priced appropriately? This should be
fun... I will let my own senses weigh in when I get mine. Just like
the Crate Powerblock, it's an experiment!
Marty
I hope this works out better than the $99 crates! I still have 2 of
those things. I will use one for testing in the shop, and I don't have
a boat, so I don't know what I'll do with the other.
I heard Clint Strong play with the routed in HB (SH) in Arlington last
year. It sounded pretty good. When I get mine, I know I'll be able to
play all those neat runs!
I bet D'A direct got at least a thousand orders from guys on here last
nite. It nearly took the site down.
dave
P.S. I'm expecting an amp in a day or two.
Hmm. OK, I reiterate the "my senses" comment and my mind is open. I
really don't need a cheap guitar that's middling... but I will welcome
a cheap guitar that kicks ass. I guess I won't bother posting it for
sale on the newsgroup in the event that it needs to be jettisoned
though... :-)
I wonder. I was order #51. I haven't heard that many folks chiming in
here... unless they are bashful!
I added one to the cart, but then I looked around, and it just
wouldn't get played. The price certainly warmed the cockles o' ma wee
Scottish heart, but I already feel guilty with the axes I have around.
>That's funny Max because I did the exact same thing! I really don't
>need it though. However I must say, and you know as well, the New
>Yorker models they produced in Japan are excellent guitars. I have a
>NYL-4 and it really is one of the nicest instruments I've ever played.
Yeah, I have a NYL-2 and it's a first class instrument. I get the
sense from reviews I've seen and this online price that quality has
lately been set aside in favour of trading on the famous name and
funky headstock. The D'Aquistos are the same: I tried a Solo and sent
it back: nice guitar, but not for 3 grand ++. Of course, once you've
played a Sadowsky there's no going back. :-)
Now you might say I just in the dark on what true carved-top guitars sound
and play like. I am here to tell you I own 2 real D'angelicos that I have
had for over 20 years each. I have owned 6 different real D'angelicos over
those same years. I play and endorse a Hollenbeck 18 in monster of a guitar.
I am not in the dark at all this Vestax D'angelico is a fine guitar and
better than almost anthing I have played. NO, it does not have the sound of
the real deal and it does not have the sound of the Hollenbeck. It does not
have that type of depth of sound and power but not many guitars I have
played in total do.
In the end for less than 1/2 the price of a Hollenbeck and 10 time the price
of the real thing, this guitar is wonderful. Don't be afraid to take the
risk These guitars are the most underrated I can name right now. The MIK
stuff is not as good but for $800 they are the deal of the century because I
have played evaluated them in detail.
--
Mark Cleary
Hollenbeck Jazz Guitars the Finest
Handcarved Jazz Guitars
http://members.cox.net/ruthster/hollenbeck/you may be happy.
<get...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yep. It looks to be down. Maybe it was a typo, and they really intended it
to be US$1800...
David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan
>
>
I nearly jettisoned the Sweet 16 in favour of an Eastman John Pisano
model last year (the only Eastman model I've been truly taken with) but
I couldn't swallow the premium Jeff Hale wanted to do the deal for a
trade-in of the Heritage. Since then, I've been quite content to work
with the herd I have... Until today's GAS attach brought on by the
D-Angelico blow-out. Is there anything this guitar will do for me that
my current stable won't? HELP!! :-)
Hell yes, says the junkie! :)
Marty
Stew Mac should sell a kit to graft "desirable" headstocks on necks, I
bet they could charge $500 easy. That plus a $300 Korean guitar and
you'd be all set :)
Just kidding (sort of.) I hope these things are actually a cut above
the Washburns or whatever that you could get for half the price. And
for that matter I hope you get a guitar at all! Good luck.
Mark: are you sold on the idea of an MIK pressed top with a floating
pickup? The ones I have played have been too heavy and dull sounding to
cut it as an acoustic guitar, and feed back too much to work as an
electric guitar. I am not sure I like the concept at $800. For that
dough an old epi zenith would murder it.
If it is a routed in pickup, you can, with a bit of looking, pick up
used high quality MIJ L-5 clones in that price range. A friend of mine
just picked up an immaculate Yamaha AE1200 for $900 shipped. On the new
MIJ front, MF has been selling Gretsch Tennessee Roses for $999.
Personally, I would take either of those guitars in a heartbeat over
any MIK jazz box I have ever seen.
I am using MIK generically, because all the ones I have seen are very
similar. Nice paint jobs, but heavy and dull sounding. So, I raise my
eyebrows when I see $800, MIK, and "deal of the century" in the same
paragraph. I am not sure of my ground, though, because another poster
indicated that these guitars were going for 2K or so before.
I was going to order one today, but their site is currently offline.
Is the site just down or gone? DNS is showing the IP as
[70.85.137.57], can anyone ping the IP? (ping is blocked on my network
right now so I cant check that). The site was still up at around 10pm
central time last night. They do have a phone number 732-380-0995 if
anyone wants to try to call it.
I dont currently have a long neck archtop so this box looked like a
good choice, glad I slept on it, will wait.
click on Excel:
go to the model you want
go to add to cart
and it takes you to:
http://www.dangelicodirect.com/
I heard about DA On-line not via the web but from a person who is
closely associated with DA but not an employee. This person is a very
reliable source!
Marty
I played the Greg Bennett Samick, and while it had a beautiful finish, it
felt big, bulky, and heavy. Pretty dead acoustically - pointless to have
the floating pickup.
On the other hand, I played a "D'Aspiranta", one of those Korean jobs that
that guy in CA offers periodically (looks like D'Aquisto), and it was
fantastic. Light, lively, excellent fit and finish, played and sounded
great for a pressed top. (And some beautiful pearl & abalone work to
boot.
(In case you're wondering, I own 3 well known high quality carved-tops for
reference.)
One small thing about most of these guitars that does bother me is the
jack in the lower bout. If the guitar is a keeper, first thing to do is
put in an end-block jack in it. (IMHBEO)
MK
Yes I found the big 17 inch Samick to have a stiff top with too much
polyurethane that killed the tone too. But my 16 inch AF105 has a
light and lively top with a fairly loud woody tone, so not all cheap
MIA's are like that. I also heard good stuff about that Phillips (I
think thats the name) guitar that a guy job-lotted out of Korea for a
while last year. He ran out the last time I looked but was offering
what some on Yahoo said was a lively guitar also in the same price
range. Hopefully this D'Angelico is using a similar pressed top to my
AF105 and the D'Aspiranta, because I just love that headstock. There
is also Mr Stroup who I hear makes a lively, low priced archtop:
Oops Exl-1 it is, my typo, but 27 lns anyway
Bg
anybody tried the hofners verythins (contemporary model, something like
that)? It costs like US 600++.
The natural/blonde/amber color names don't seem to be consistent across
the models. Some show "Natural (Blonde)" or "Blond Vintage Natural" or
"Natural" or "Vintage Natural" or "Vintage Natural (Amber)". Sheesh.
I'm interested in the EXL-1SH (single humbucker model), but I was
hoping to get it in the darker amber finish (not light blonde). That
model lists as one of its colors "Blond Vintage Natural"...anybody know
if that's the light blonde or more like the "Vintage Natural" that the
pic of the EXL-1DP shows?
Have I totally confused you all? Well, join the club.
Bryan
Here is the nearest I can tell for the EXL-1DP which I was interested
in:
If you click the link on the left that says $500 to $1000 I think that
page shows the 5 available colors for the EXL-1DP but on different
models:
Black
Classic Sunburst
Natural
Transparent Wine Red
Vintage Natural
There are more colors overall but not for the 1DP, on those other
guitars that have more colors the "Vintage Natural" is also suffixed by
the word "(amber)" which to me means the "orange colored one". So by
deduction I would say Vintage Natural is the amber (orangeish due to
photography) one. The other 4 colors above are self-explanatory with
Natural being blond.
As for the EXL-1SH I would say if the word Blond is in the color or the
color name is simply Natural then it will be the light white color.
The Vintage Natural would be the darker amber (orangeish) one.
I dont know if this helps, but their web site does need a color chart,
it is confusing.
It could depend on what wood is under the finish: Maple, different
types of Spruce?
Bg
I'll post a first impression, probably in a new thread.
Roger
Bryan
so is this reliable? It looks almost to good to me...
I tried to order on but I get errors when I check out... As I live in
Spain it doesn't like my address eventhough there is the possibility to
check Spain as destination.
Cheers
Jo
Martacus ha escrito:
> Okay, got a question.
> The natural/blonde/amber color names don't seem to be consistent across
> the models. Some show "Natural (Blonde)" or "Blond Vintage Natural" or
> "Natural" or "Vintage Natural" or "Vintage Natural (Amber)". Sheesh.
Guitarists are truly a very strange breed. Can you imagine a violinist
being that worried about the shade of their instrument's finish?
MK
On the other hand, my L-5 is not doing it for me any more... the PRS
really suits me.
But anyway, once I can break away from the family this evening I'll
post a quick mini review. Then I'm sure the rest of you will chime in
when you get yours and totally refute my impressions, and we'll have a
100 post debate about it.
;-)
Gotta love it!
MK
"Michael L Kankiewicz" <mich...@buffalo.edu> wrote in message
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I went through being juiced at first, to anger at being ignored, to
apathy---so I won't be getting a D'Angelico anytime soon. I was a tad
leery to begin with, and there are plenty of other fish in the sea.
Hope they are great for those of you that get one.
No matter how you look at it there will be better deals to come!
Marty
A few Strads are known by their color. like the "Red Diamond."
>D'Angelico is selling the Excel EXL-1DP and other Excels online for
>$800!!!
>
>http://www.dangelicodirect.com/store/pc/home.asp
>
You Bastard! I have never before in my life succumbed to GAS. But
D'Angelico's have always had a mythical status for me. And even if
these aren't actually D'Angelico's, they have the same effect on me.
Actually I've had two students with these reissues. One was a
NY-something, which at that point was the only guitar I ever played
which I liked as much as my L5. The other student had an Excel which
was around $1500 and was a great guitar too. At $800 I have
succumbed.
btw, the other guitar I've played now which I like as much as my L5 is
one made by an independent Luthier (in NJ I believe) called Palen. I
have a student who recently got two. Every time he comes in the first
note he plays makes me stop mid thought because the guitar sounds just
so amazing. Even just one note.
_________________________________________
Kevin Van Sant
http://www.kevinvansant.com
CDs, videos, mp3s, gigs, pics, lessons, info.
Who has/hasn't received ship confirmation yet? I ordered Sunday but
have only received the first email. (I called to check and found that
my color was OOS, so I switched to another color.) I'm just curious as
to how quickly things are going. (OK, so I want to try this guitar
ASAP....)
Thanks,
Marty
> If this guitar is better than my Epi ES175, then I don't deserve it. So
> there.
Yes you do.
David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan