Amp modellers
Five Sharp
sounds. The Line 6 POD?
TIA
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Josip Seidl
stage(guitar-Pod-PA).Guys say that the sound is fine.Greetings Josip
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bob r
wrote on 2/28/05 8:12 AM:
> What is the best one available currently? You know, one with good authentic
> sounds. The Line 6 POD?
That's kind of a personal taste thing; you just have to try out different
pieces of gear. I've used a couple of different PODs; I own a POD 2.0 and
have gotten a lot of sounds I liked from that, but it involved a lot of
tweaking - the presets are designed for kids who want to annoy middle-aged
shoppers at Guitar Center. It won't do everything, but it's pretty
versatile. I've used it both live and in the studio with good results.
Others on the group have liked the Johnson J-Station; Vic Magnani (another
good guy we don't see much these days - hi, Vic!) in particular has made
some nice sounds with that. The Yamaha Stomp series has a lot of fans, too.
There's also some nice modeling software out there like Amplitube or Guitar
Rig. Zucker seems to like Guitar Rig a lot; maybe he'll chime in here. I
tried Amplitube and thought it was pretty dang good.
--
Bob Russell
http://www.bobrussellguitar.com
CD, "Watch This!", available at:
http://www.cdbaby.com/bobrussell
JS Groot
>
> What is the best one available currently? You know, one with good authentic
> sounds. The Line 6 POD?
I bought one a few months ago second hand. It has only one
clean amp modelled, the Roland JC-120. It can be used
with several simulated speaker cabinets, though, ranging
from small to large. The other amps are all better suited
for rock etc. (the Gary Moore stuff :), as far as I know.
Jos Groot
oasysco
I have to agree with Bob - MFX pedals are a subjective thing. I own 5
or 6 and have owned another dozen or more. Each pedal has its strong
points and weak points. You have to go with one and make it work for
you; hopefully it'll have mroe strong points thna weak.
In any case, it's pretty obvious to me that MFX/modelers fall into
several camps:
1. heavily tweakable units that can take a long time to suss out, but
allow the greatest amount of customization. The downside here is that
you will have to re-program should you decide to use a vastly different
guitar or amp setup.
2. idiot gauage pedals that give you good basic sounds, but not much
programmability
3. pedals that require a PC to program them (Yamaha magic stomp is an a
recent example)
4. pedals that are completely or mostly customizable from the pedal
itself
I have found that every pedal out there is aimed primarily at the
blues/rock/grunge distortion market. For example, pedals that have a
Deluxe Reverb model, typically model the amp dime'd rather than clean.
OTOH, amps that have a Twin reverb model usually model it clean with
only a hint of rasp, but you'll not likely find too many clean amp
models opn any one pedal, but there will be plenty of distortion amp
models from Marshall to VHT to Mesa, etc.
I currently use a Zoom GFX-1 as it has a couple of OK clean amp models,
it's cheap, an idiot-gauge when it comes to programming and, most
importantly, it does what I need it to do and has good bypass when I
need to just use my amp. I'm not suggesting this unit for you as my
needs are probably much different than yours. As it turns out, it took
me many MFX pedals to arrive at this one and I still have others that I
may use from time to time.
Greg
Joe
I have a Tech 21 PSA-1 Pre-Amp that I use on-stage and in-studio.
The pre-sets are mostly geared towards heavy distortion, but the unit
is infinitely tweakable.
Peace,
Joe
charles robinson
great.
Charlie
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Tom Sullivan
original POD once but wasn't really impressed. The 2.0 is probably better.
Lots of folks have been gushing about the
VOX tonelab. Still, I doubt many jazz purists will be in the "modeler" camp!
But if you're doing fusion, I'm sure you can find plenty to like in many of
them.
I've also got an Edirol UA-700 box (these are being blown out cheaply now,
they're a really
good deal, I got mine back when they first came out!). These are cool in that
they can run
as a mic or amp modeler stand-alone or you can go USB straight into your
computer. Great for tracking demo stuff if you need things quiet. They've got
that great JC-120 clean on them!
--Tom
bob r
cstm...@ns.gemlink.com wrote on 2/28/05 11:03 AM:
How are the clean sounds on that thing? That's a unit I've thought about as
maybe a useful addition to my rig.
charles robinson
which Jos plays solos over my backing. He gets a very clean, clear sound .
Charlie
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Max Leggett
wrote:
>What is the best one available currently? You know, one with good authentic
>sounds. The Line 6 POD?
I had a Pod and sold it, but it's a personal taste thing. Currently I
have a Boss ME 50 which I like a lot more. More control over
individual parameters. However it's also at least 2x as large as the
POD. Has a good "jazz guitar" setting.
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>TIA
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Five Sharp
fro bebop but the rock sounds should be good. The Digitech I use now only
has a few acceptable rock sounds but I think these are not great even. You
know, just an approximation. I want to hear more genuine heavy sounds. And
it should be a thing I can use live too, not only in my studio.
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JS Groot
>
> Maybe I should be a bit more specific. I'd be ok with just one Jazz preset
> fro bebop but the rock sounds should be good. The Digitech I use now only
> has a few acceptable rock sounds but I think these are not great even. You
> know, just an approximation. I want to hear more genuine heavy sounds. And
> it should be a thing I can use live too, not only in my studio.
I don't know anything about the genuinity of the rock sounds
of my POD 2.0. It has a toggle switch which makes the sound suitable
for recording into a PC, or for feeding it into an amplifier.
In the latter case the modelling of the speaker cabinet is
bypassed I think.
Jos Groot
Kurt Shapiro
CHEAP! Seems like I get a better jazz sound just going direct through a
PreSonus TubePre and then adding reverb after it's printed. Aside from
being cheap though, the J-Station has a couple real good heavy rock sounds.
It's a got one Van Halen-ish type preset/model that just really brings out
the harmonics, and a couple heavier things too. I've never used it live.
I think the real heavy sludge-rock dewds use a lot of dropped tunings and
7-strings and baritone guitars and whatnot.
I heard someone playing through a Korg GenX3 or something like that on a gig
about six months ago. The sounds were fantastic, but I ain't spendin' no
$400 on more worthless digital crap. He wasn't going for the real heavy
rock sounds, so I couldn't tell you how it fares at that.
Zucker likes his Vox thingy.
I'd like to find out what works good live too. It'd be nice to be able to
show up for a pop gig with just a strat, a lightweight solid-state amp, and
one processing/pedal unit. Maybe even skip the amp and just go direct into
the PA.
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Joe
> How are the clean sounds on that thing? That's a unit I've thought
about as
> maybe a useful addition to my rig.
> --
> Bob Russell
> http://www.bobrussellguitar.com
> CD, "Watch This!", available at:
> http://www.cdbaby.com/bobrussell
Bob,
I generally play in stereo so that i don't have to hit the reverbs or
choruses (chori?) too hard.
Guitar > PSA-1 > Carvin Stereo Multi Effects > Carvin 150w Amp >
Speakers
I did a harmony central review when I got my first PSA.
"Tweak and ye shall find" is what I wrote and I still feel the same.
My favorite thing about this unit is that the parameters of what color
the sound are changed by simply turning knobs.
I have 2 identical set-ups...(One is for sale!)
The only reason that I am selling is that I bought the second set-up as
a back-up because I was playing out often for some good $$$.
I've slowed down to the point where I rarely play out at all.
I don't think that I have played through the one that I am selling a
total of 5 hours.
The e-mail address assigned to the rmmgj group does not work.
jnovack@(fill in the rest from above) if you are interested.
All the best,
Joe
thom_j.
> I did a harmony central review when I got my first PSA.
test for cancer, but what does this mean in guitar lingo?
stupidly curious tee'..
Joe
The PSA-1 is a very chameleon-ic multi-tasker.
For me, the secret to getting the most out of it (and some other
modellers) was to use a flat amp and speakers or bypass the pre-amp of
my combo amp.
With the set-up that I currently have (See my post to Bob R.), I can go
directly into the board for studio work, use the amp thru the speakers
for small gigs, use the speakers as stage monitors while patching to
the PA for larger venues, or send a clean signal to the PA and color
the signal from my stage speakers.
Peace,
Joe
Joe
The Tech 21 PSA-1 is a rack mount modelling pre-amp.
Go to
http://www.tech21nyc.com/psa.html
for info.
Peace,
Joe
Pete Kerezman
wrote:
>Maybe I should be a bit more specific. I'd be ok with just one Jazz preset
>fro bebop but the rock sounds should be good. The Digitech I use now only
>has a few acceptable rock sounds but I think these are not great even. You
>know, just an approximation. I want to hear more genuine heavy sounds. And
>it should be a thing I can use live too, not only in my studio.
I can't believe what I'm perceiving! Rock On, Brother Five.
Texas Pete
thom_j.
cheers thom_j.
Michael Nickolas
If you find it helpful, here is an example of a solo guitar recording
using the POD version 1.
http://useforwebspace.home.comcast.net/rainbow.mp3
Michael Nickolas
www.studionineproductions.com
Kent Kingery
> Maybe I should be a bit more specific. I'd be ok with just one Jazz preset
> fro bebop but the rock sounds should be good. The Digitech I use now only
> has a few acceptable rock sounds but I think these are not great even. You
> know, just an approximation. I want to hear more genuine heavy sounds. And
> it should be a thing I can use live too, not only in my studio.
I just purchased a Pod XT Live, and I love it. See it here:
I've used it live and for recording, and it works great in both
environments. The site tells more than I can. I toyed with the Roland GT-8
and played through both in the store. I decided on the Pod XT Live
ultimately because of two features. First, there's the USB connection to
allow me to hook to the computer (GT-8 has S/PDIF but no "smart"
connection). Second, the Pod XT Live has a Variax digital connector, and
I'm considering buying a Variax in the very near future.
It's a great unit, and I'm happy with it. Good sounds for all genres.
Kent
Chip L
variety/dance/wedding gig. Its great! I lug one guitar and one XTL to
practice and gigs. It makes the sounds people want to hear. I can change
quickly between sounds.
I did a recording date about 3 weeks ago and the engineers said " everybody
we've recorded with a POD goes straight to the board - no amp" Its that
good.
Line6 to it right for the performer/recorder with the POD XT Live.
Chip L
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Michael Nickolas
>Line6 to it right for the performer/recorder with the POD XT Live.
FWIW, my recording chain is guitar - tube preamp - POD. At least for
the clean sounds. I think the tube preamp before the POD adds a subtle
clarity or warmth if you will. Give it a try!
Michael Nickolas
www.studionineproductions.com