Legally Selling Covers of Jazz Standards.....

Paul

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Aug 1, 2013, 5:02:11 PM8/1/13

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I'm thinking of covering Autumn Leaves and Nature Boy.

Is this pretty much it?

http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/2011/01/how-to-legally-sell-downloads-of-cover-songs/

Sending the monthly royalty payments sounds like the
toughest part.

But it appears that if you are simply posting the cover
to Youtube (and not selling it), then it's pretty much
allowed, and no one really cares too much:

http://brandsplusmusic.blogspot.com/2010/08/music-copyright-and-youtube.html

Perhaps that's the best way? Post the covers on
youtube for free, but only charge for your originals?

thomas

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Aug 1, 2013, 5:50:01 PM8/1/13

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On Thursday, August 1, 2013 5:02:11 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
>
> But it appears that if you are simply posting the cover
> to Youtube (and not selling it), then it's pretty much
> allowed, and no one really cares too much:

If you start getting a lot of hits, then they care and they take you down. It's happened to a number of people who've had their entire YT accounts killed. But if hardly anyone is watching your videos, then they leave you alone.

Paul

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Aug 1, 2013, 6:14:31 PM8/1/13

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That doesn't surprise me, as people don't really care until
you get a bit successful.....then they want a slice of the pie.

But if you read the link, there are some cases where negotiations
have led to the video being left up, or re-instated after being taken
down. A cover video can be good exposure for the original song-writer
or artist, and perhaps the publisher can get a % of the advertising
dollars from Youtube.

David Raleigh Arnold

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Aug 2, 2013, 2:09:53 PM8/2/13

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Those copyright owners who have put *some* their stuff in a list
for youtube get much of the ad revenue for it, and the performer
gets nothing. This is spelled out in an agreement with youtube,
which was the product of a lawsuit. You can't just put up your
version of anything, including arrangements not on the owners
list, without informing youtube, nor should you. It's wrong.

Regards, Rale (ASCAP member)

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Aug 2, 2013, 3:21:02 PM8/2/13

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> But it appears that if you are simply posting the cover
> to Youtube (and not selling it), then it's pretty much
> allowed, and no one really cares too much:

Really? A couple years ago I posted a solo version of "On Green Dolphin.."
(audio only) in YouTube and very soon got a message saying that I should pay
copyrights or remove it.

That's weird, as there are thousands of videos with "OGDS" in YouTube.
Are those folks paying copyrights or the poclicies changed to the model you
mention? (just posting, not selling...)

Tks
ZP

Paul

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Aug 2, 2013, 3:42:59 PM8/2/13

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Well, when you get past a certain number of viewings on
Youtube, you are able to have Youtube put their ads before your
video, and they will pay you for each hit, so in that case, you
are actually making money.

Maybe some of those people also got a message, but ignored
it, and their videos stayed up anyways?

Gerry

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Aug 2, 2013, 5:24:40 PM8/2/13

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On 2013-08-02 19:21:02 +0000, zepa....@gmail.com said:

>>
>> But it appears that if you are simply posting the cover
>> to Youtube (and not selling it), then it's pretty much
>> allowed, and no one really cares too much:
>
> Really? A couple years ago I posted a solo version of "On Green Dolphin.."
> (audio only) in YouTube and very soon got a message saying that I should pay
> copyrights or remove it.
>
> That's weird, as there are thousands of videos with "OGDS" in YouTube.

I think they just grab randomly...
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Paul

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Aug 2, 2013, 5:38:40 PM8/2/13

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On 8/2/2013 2:24 PM, Gerry wrote:
> On 2013-08-02 19:21:02 +0000, zepa....@gmail.com said:
>
>>>
>>> But it appears that if you are simply posting the cover
>>> to Youtube (and not selling it), then it's pretty much
>>> allowed, and no one really cares too much:
>>
>> Really? A couple years ago I posted a solo version of "On Green
>> Dolphin.."
>> (audio only) in YouTube and very soon got a message saying that I
>> should pay
>> copyrights or remove it.
>>
>> That's weird, as there are thousands of videos with "OGDS" in YouTube.
>
> I think they just grab randomly...

Most likely that is the case. There's just too many videos
uploaded.

So it's like how they prosecuted a select few who were
downloading songs for free, just to make an example of them,
while everyone else got away with it...

Paul

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Aug 23, 2013, 3:56:58 PM8/23/13

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On 8/1/2013 2:02 PM, Paul wrote:
> I'm thinking of covering Autumn Leaves and Nature Boy.
>
> Is this pretty much it?
>
>
>
> http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/2011/01/how-to-legally-sell-downloads-of-cover-songs/
>
>

Interesting thing about this link, is that it says,

"As long as your notice complies with Copyright Section 115, (described
above), the publisher need do nothing other than receive the royalty
payments. You donï¿½t even need to wait for their reply."

So I guess the certified mail part ensures you that your
letter of intent got to the publisher.....but it doesn't
necessarily mean your letter was read, but I guess for
legal reasons it's enough they got the message....right?