Any Questions for Vic Juris?
Mark Kleinhaut
Vic will be up in Portland Maine with Dave Liebman tomorrow night and will
be staying the night at my house, Le Chateau Kleinhaut. I think we'll have
a little jamming time before they need to head south on Saturday. If anyone
has any questions for Vic, let me know and I'll pass them along.
--------------------Mark Kleinhaut
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Bob Russell
markkl...@hotmail.com wrote on 4/25/02 10:15 AM:
> If anyone
> has any questions for Vic, let me know and I'll pass them along.
"Vertical or horizontal?" :)
-- Bob Russell
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Jonathan Byrd
>
> If anyone
> has any questions for Vic, let me know and I'll pass them along.
1. What do the words "horizontal" and "vertical" mean?
2. Which is harder, Giant Steps or Countdown?
3. Que es mas macho, Tony Bennett o Britney Spears?
4. Over the bars: Hang on and roll, or Superman?
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Michael Ellenberger
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. If anyone
> has any questions for Vic, let me know and I'll pass them along.
Here's a few more burning questions,
1) Do they like TI or D'Addario strings?
2) Tube or solid state amps?
3) Does a 335 with coil taps really sound like an L5?
Mike
Bob Russell
at Michael.E...@compaq.com wrote on 4/25/02 12:20 PM:
And don't forget
4) Favorite newsreader?
Mark Guest
What??? sputter, choke gasp!!! He doesn't use the new cable?
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Michael Ellenberger
Does he like the Clarus / RE combination or polytone?
I hope these help case you can't come up with nothin' Mark!
Tom Jaffe
album at Van Gelder's studio, and played through a Fender Deluxe amp that
was kept there for Wes Montgomery to record with. Ask him what kind of
Deluxe. Was it a tweed or brown non-reverb model?
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Dean Elwood
1. Crunchy or smooth peanut butter?
2. Toast or bagel?
D
PS are we just getting silly now?
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Paul Sanwald
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>Did he study with Martino or Sandole?
>
I think martino, at Pat Martino's clinic pat played a really hip
sounding voicing and then said "you know, one of those vic juris
chords!" everybody smiled. vic can play some unbeleivable sounding
chords.
--paul
josh
Dan Adler
> be staying the night at my house, Le Chateau Kleinhaut. I think we'll have
> a little jamming time before they need to head south on Saturday. If anyone
> has any questions for Vic, let me know and I'll pass them along.
Vic is one of the greats! I had a couple of lessons with him many
years ago when he lived in New Jersey, but I doubt he would remember
me.
Just keeping up with Dave Liebman is a feat in itself. Vic's comping
on Aebersold volume 81 (which is Liebman's music plus his reharms and
reforms to some standards) is superb:
http://www.jazzbooks.com/playalongs/081.htm - in fact that group is a
great example of piano and guitar playing some seriously challenging
material and never getting in each other's way. They seem to always
take turns comping. There is an adjunct CD that actually has Liebman
playing with volume 81 (
http://www.jazzbooks.com/scripts/search.asp?detail=1&item=175 )
I just love Liebman's playing, especially on tenor.
When I last saw Vic he was playing a solid body of some kind, maybe
you can fill us in on his gear.
Thom_j.
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Rick Ross
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a wandering frank
> in article Y0Wx8.23$S%5.63...@cacnews.cac.cpqcorp.net, Michael
Ellenberger
> at Michael.E...@compaq.com wrote on 4/25/02 12:20 PM:
> > "Mark Kleinhaut" <markkl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3cc80f7d$1...@spamkiller.newsgroups.com...
> > . If anyone
> >> has any questions for Vic, let me know and I'll pass them along.
> > Here's a few more burning questions,
> > 1) Do they like TI or D'Addario strings?
> > 2) Tube or solid state amps?
> > 3) Does a 335 with coil taps really sound like an L5?
> And don't forget
> 4) Favorite newsreader?
5a) Is BIAB worth the 80 or so bucks?
5b) Any latency issues with his sound card?
6) Has he tried the Martian's Space Modulator 6.0? Jack is thinking of
adding one to his rig...
:)
cheers,
Frank
Jurupari
>> >> has any questions for Vic, let me know and I'll pass them along.
>> > Here's a few more burning questions,
1) Which South American countries were the chief exporters of copra before
World War II?
2) What are the essential features of the Kennedy-Landrum bill and how did they
change Labor's relationship to Management?
3) What is an echinoderm?
4) Extra Credit: Clint gets paid $.0012 per note. Victor is paid $.0013. How
many choruses of Giant Steps must they play to earn $100 each?
Please have Victor complete the preceding in number 2 pencil and sign and date
in the upper right hand corner. Neatness counts.
His High School Teachers
Robby
Jazz Center in Brattleboro.
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Michael Ellenberger
This thread is killin' me. If there isn't a "trivia" section to the FAQ
this thread is a good start. Wish I could make the gig.
Mike
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icarusi
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>
and will
> be staying the night at my house, Le Chateau Kleinhaut. I think
we'll have
> a little jamming time before they need to head south on Saturday.
If anyone
> has any questions for Vic, let me know and I'll pass them along.
His classical fingerstyle technique suggests he began his playing that
style, but some versatile guitarist can take on any style at any stage
as if they always played that style? I would guess the former though?
This may be already answered somewhere on the internet though?
Icarusi
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Kev
Vic is one of my favorites, too. I grabbed a lesson with him this past fall,
and Dave Stryker just happened to be over his house! Both some heavy cats,
though they seem to act like regular human beings, too! ;)
I'd love to know if Vic has any plans in the works to do a CD of unaccompanied
playing - I'd grab that in a second. Also, does he ever play with Bireli Lagrene
anymore? Their playing together is surprisingly compatable, compared to the
idea I had in my mind of what Vic's playing was all about based on the stuff
with Liebman, which just seemed like such a different kind of bag.
Here's a simple question to give him: "What's your secret?" (In twenty words or
less, of course) :)
-Kev
Jay Carlson
No questions.
But please tell him he's the one musician I've seen here in St Thomas the
past few years that I've really been moved by.
Also tell him Jerry Harris says hello.
And while you're at it, tell him & Dave there's an open invitation at my
place :)
http://www.villasecretgardens.com/
http://www.villasecretgardens.com/gallery1.htm
(and have him check out my playing in his spare time.)
Hope all is well,
Jay
http://artists2.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/Jay_Carlson/
Doug B
-Doug
Mark Kleinhaut
The hang with Vic and Tony Marino was great. We got to play some tunes Saturday
morning for about an hour and a half . Great guys. The concert with Liebman
was fabulous, just incredible. Vic is an amazing guitarist and must be checked
out by anyone who’s not familiar with his work. Better yet, go hear him
live whenever you can.
Anyway, here are anwers to questions gathered from this thread. I couldn’t
ask him everything, and some stuff I just forgot about.
"Vertical or horizontal?" :) -- Bob Russell
A- Neither, everything happens on the diagonal.
1. What do the words "horizontal" and "vertical" mean? 2. Which is harder,
Giant Steps or Countdown? 3. Que es mas macho, Tony Bennett o Britney Spears?
4. Over the bars: Hang on and roll, or Superman? -- Jonathan Byrd
A- #1 nothing, #2 neither, #3 Britney #4 whatever
1) Do they like TI or D'Addario strings? 2) Tube or solid state amps? 3)
Does a 335 with coil taps really sound like an L5? Mike
A- #1 Elixer 12-52 rounds, #2 SS, #3 huh?
And don't forget 4) Favorite newsreader? -- Bob Russell
A- NY Times
Does he prefer Richard Glick's $300 cable over the George L's? What??? sputter,
choke gasp!!! He doesn't use the new cable? -- Mark Guest
A- didn’t aske
I thought of another... Does he like the Clarus / RE combination or polytone?
A- Vic uses tow Evans JC-200’s plus an RE- Stealth 12 as an extension.
On side of this rig is for guitar and the other appears to be for his synth
rig.
I thought of another:- 1. Crunchy or smooth peanut butter? 2. Toast or bagel?
D -Mike E.
A- They were fine with banana and strawberry pancakes. Viv takes his coffee
black.
5a) Is BIAB worth the 80 or so bucks? 5b) Any latency issues with his sound
card? 6) Has he tried the Martian's Space Modulator 6.0? Jack is thinking
of adding one to his rig...
A- didn’t ask
1) Which South American countries were the chief exporters of copra before
World War II? 2) What are the essential features of the Kennedy-Landrum bill
and how did they change Labor's relationship to Management? 3) What is an
echinoderm? 4) Extra Credit: Clint gets paid $.0012 per note. Victor is paid
$.0013. How many choruses of Giant Steps must they play to earn $100 each?
Please have Victor complete the preceding in number 2 pencil and sign and
date in the upper right hand corner. Neatness counts. His High School Teachers
- Clif
A- Gee Clif, for some reason I totally fogot to ask him these questions.
Maybe next time
Vic mentioned in a Guitar Player interview years ago that he recorded an
album at Van Gelder's studio, and played through a Fender Deluxe amp that
was kept there for Wes Montgomery to record with. Ask him what kind of Deluxe.
Was it a tweed or brown non-reverb model? Tom Jaffe
A- Sorry Tom, I forgot to ask
Did he study with Martino or Sandole? JAZ
Neither, Vic studied with a local guy named Ed Berg.
Does Vic Juris still teach at William Paterson?? -Josh
A- Vic teaches at Rutgers. He assumed that gig after Ted Dunbar passed away
about 4 years ago. He said he went down there for what he thought was to
be an informal meeting and was asked to give a demo lesson to a student with
about 50 people watching. He said he was thinking to himself that he wasn’t
prepared for that, and that he was wearing shorts and sandals, and that there
was no way he’d get this gig. But they called him two days later.
When I last saw Vic he was playing a solid body of some kind, maybe you can
fill us in on his gear. -Dan
A- Vic was playing a guitar made by luthier Tom Doyle. Its a small bodied
thin line archtop, very much like my PRS hollowbody (which he loved playing-
almost wouldn’t give it back)
will he be allowed to use the guest towels? Rick R.
A- yes
Just reminding y'all they're playing Saturday night 4/27/02 at the Vermont
Jazz Center in Brattleboro -Robby
A- Yeah, how did that show go
His classical fingerstyle technique suggests he began his playing that style,
but some versatile guitarist can take on any style at any stage as if they
always played that style? I would guess the former though? This may be already
answered somewhere on the internet though? Icarusi
A- I didn’t ask him about his, but his RH technique did not seem classically
trained. He does lots of hybrid picking as well as flat and fingerstyle.
I'd love to know if Vic has any plans in the works to do a CD of unaccompanied
playing - I'd grab that in a second. Also, does he ever play with Bireli
Lagrene anymore? Their playing together is surprisingly compatable, compared
to the idea I had in my mind of what Vic's playing was all about based on
the stuff with Liebman, which just seemed like such a different kind of bag.
Here's a simple question to give him: "What's your secret?" (In twenty words
or less, of course) :) –Kev
A- I didn’t ask about any upcoming projects. I didn’t really ask him what
the “secret” is, but I feel he would have said that there is no secret, and
that he just does what he does after year of practice and playing experience.
You can be sure he’s not thinking scales.
No questions. But please tell him he's the one musician I've seen here in
St Thomas the past few years that I've really been moved by. Also tell him
Jerry Harris says hello. And while you're at it, tell him & Dave there's
an open invitation at my place :) Jay Carlson
A- Hi Jay, sorry I didn’t see your post until after the visit. I’m glad
Vic made it down there, but it sounds like your even more isolated then when
you lived in Maine. OTOH, we had some snow this morning!
Well, that’s it.
Tom Walls
markkl...@hotmail.com says...
>
> The hang with Vic and Tony Marino was great. We got to play some tunes Saturday
> morning for about an hour and a half . Great guys. The concert with Liebman
> was fabulous, just incredible. Vic is an amazing guitarist and must be checked
> out by anyone who’s not familiar with his work. Better yet, go hear him
> live whenever you can.
>
> Anyway, here are anwers to questions gathered from this thread. I couldn’t
> ask him everything, and some stuff I just forgot about.
Now I've got one for you, Mark. Do you think that, having associated
yourself with RMMGJ, your reputation has been damaged or enhanced? :<)
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the guy at the Temple of Zeus
http://www.arts.cornell.edu/zeus/
Mark Kleinhaut
Tom Walls <tw...@REMOVEcornell.edu> wrote:
>
>Now I've got one for you, Mark. Do you think that, having associated
>yourself with RMMGJ, your reputation has been damaged or enhanced? :<)
>--
>Tom Walls
That's good Tom, I dunno, you tell me::)
Michael Ellenberger
for getting some answers to our burning questions. I was looking forward to
getting the answers to Cliff's questions, but life goes on.
Did you turn them on to any of your tunes or complimentary CDs?
I think Dave Liebman plays on an Elvin Jones LP I got a long time ago
(Genesis). With Frank Foster on alto(?) and Gene Perla on bass. No piano
or guitar. If my memory is correct, I can't even imagine what Dave Liebman
plays like these days.
Mike
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Mike Ellenberger
Listen to some soundclips at
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> or less, of course) :) -Kev
Thom_j.
here but his name came up alot while I did my post'grad work there.
Advertising/Marketing. P.S. I use to sneak into many music classes
just to get some free input.. shhhh :)
> A- Vic teaches at Rutgers. He assumed that gig after Ted Dunbar passed
away
> about 4 years ago. He said he went down there for what he thought was to
> be an informal meeting and was asked to give a demo lesson to a student
with
> about 50 people watching. He said he was thinking to himself that he
wasn't
> prepared for that, and that he was wearing shorts and sandals, and that
there
> was no way he'd get this gig. But they called him two days later.
> --------------------Mark Kleinhaut
Jack A. Zucker
>
> Neither, Vic studied with a local guy named Ed Berg.
>
Interesting...Must be the philadelphia mystique...
When I studied with Martino, Pat said Vic Juris was one of his best
students...
Another interesting thing: When I studied with Dennis Sandole, Dennis
talked of Pat Martino (and also Coltrane) as if they had really cut
their teeth studying with him. Pat claimed he learned very little from
Dennis....
Oh well...
Jaz
Thom_j.
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Dan Adler
> The hang with Vic and Tony Marino was great.
Mark,
What did he think of you? :)
Mark Kleinhaut
d...@danadler.com (Dan Adler) wrote:
>Mark,
>
>What did he think of you? :)
>
>-Dan
He said I have a charming home, a lovely wife, and that I make really good
strawberry/banana pancakes.
Robby
Vermont Saturday night!
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Robby
pretty dense but varied. Alot to absorb, almost overload. Juris is a heavy
player. the sax was getting a little drowned in the mix. Makes me wanna
listen to their recordings more in depth to make 'sense' of it. Vic almost
gave me a copy of one of Mark K.'s CDs but it was out in his car so I told
him thanks but not to bother. What a lovely gesture, though.
icarusi
>
> The hang with Vic and Tony Marino was great. We got to play some
tunes Saturday
> morning for about an hour and a half . Great guys. The concert
with Liebman
> was fabulous, just incredible. Vic is an amazing guitarist and must
be checked
> out by anyone who’s not familiar with his work. Better yet, go hear
him
> live whenever you can.
In the London radio concert with Liebman, Vic seemed to divide his
playing sound in 3 consecutive sections, classical accoustic/nylon
sound, then archtop-type sound and last distorted 'fusiony' sounds.
Did they divide the concert you saw in that way?
> His classical fingerstyle technique suggests he began his playing
that style,
> but some versatile guitarist can take on any style at any stage as
if they
> always played that style? I would guess the former though? This may
be already
> answered somewhere on the internet though? Icarusi
>
> A- I didn’t ask him about his, but his RH technique did not seem
classically
> trained. He does lots of hybrid picking as well as flat and
fingerstyle.
If they did divide the concert like London, what guitar was Vic
playing for the classical/nylon sounds?
Mark Kleinhaut
it was 6 or 7 hundred bucks, thats all. You're right about his split into
three catagories of sound, though his use of synth is now probably replacing
the use of distortion sound most of the time at this stage.
icarusi
> Vic was using a relatively inexpensive Takamine nylon with cutaway.
He said
> it was 6 or 7 hundred bucks, thats all. You're right about his split
into
> three catagories of sound, though his use of synth is now probably
replacing
> the use of distortion sound most of the time at this stage.
Were you able to see what synth he using?