Anyone ever try Jazz on a pedal steel?
Ra
I'd like to hear that.
Seems like an instrument that is more intuitive.. than cerebral,
with the open tuning and slide?
Might make for good Arpeggio practice?
I saw Robert Randolph and the Family Band on Austin City Limits last night.
They weren't playing Country music either.. but it seems like the kind of
thing that could cross boundaries, in the right hands.
They actually had 4 steel guitars going at once, in the finale medley.
Also had a real talented 6 string bass driving things.. and another guy playing
lead on a Flying V. Saw another guy playing a Strat and there were keyboards,
drums and background singers.
You may have heard this guy's current hit?
" I Need More Love Every Day of My Life "
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Ra
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Bill Ribas
just started learning pedal steel, I have been looking for all types of
stuff to listen to. And believe me, it's a lot easier to listen than to
play, due to the variety of tunings. I thought, well, know learning jazz is
tough, but the pedal steel is, well, a lot tougher than I thought.
"Ra" <use...@freetoys.com> wrote in message
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Ra
>I can send you an mp3 of Buddy Emmons doing Cherokee if you want. Since I just started learning pedal steel, I have been looking
>for all types of stuff to listen to. And believe me, it's a lot easier to listen than to play, due to the variety of tunings. I
>thought, well, know learning jazz is tough, but the pedal steel is, well, a lot tougher than I thought.
Thanks.. but I try to shy away from taking someone's music
without their consent, unless it's obsolete or expired material, or something.
I'll look him up and see if I can find something online.
Gracias.
I'd like to see a photo of your guitar.
Bill Ribas
educational purposes only), and you can give it a listen at
http://www.frontiernet.net/~bribas/ - i'll take the clip down later today.
the cd is called "Amazing Steel Guitar, The Buddy Emmons Collection" and he
also does a version of Witchcraft.
"Ra" <use...@freetoys.com> wrote in message
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Ra
Here's a clip:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002ZB9/104-8946943-9983160?v=glance
Now that I think about it, you hear a lot of stuff like that in 'Exotica'.
Tiki Lounge style music.
Martin Denny has some great stuff. Very atmospheric.
Mondoslug1
Sho Bud and later an Emmons. I had great plans, decided I was having a hard
enough time with guitar & sold them
Bill Ribas
have, and i paid about the same when i got it off ebay a few years back.
http://www.telusplanet.net/~gsimmons/shobud/cat_images/75maverick.jpg and
should you be interested in tuning, here's a link which has a few varieties
http://www.b0b.com/tunings/index.html
Ra
> here's a pic i found on the internet which is pretty much the same as i have, and i paid about the same when i got it off ebay a
> few years back. http://www.telusplanet.net/~gsimmons/shobud/cat_images/75maverick.jpg and should you be interested in tuning,
> here's a link which has a few varieties http://www.b0b.com/tunings/index.html
Sounds like fun.
The 3 pedals and knee lever must add a whole 'nother
dimension of difficulty, to what may look easy,
going on up top.
I'm not quite ready to appreciate the tunings yet..
but there are some interesting articles there:
http://www.b0b.com/infoedu/thesteel.htm
Kevin Van Sant
in message <KJbad.307740$%n4.3...@bignews6.bellsouth.net> :
I don't know if Mike Baybak still lurks here but I've heard him play
some killer pedal steel and I think he told me he has played some jazz
on it too... Mike?
_________________________________________
Kevin Van Sant
jazz guitar
http://www.kevinvansant.com
to buy my CDs, hear sound clips, see videos, and get more info.
Alternate site for recent soundclips
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/kevinvansant_music.htm
Yvan
Lenny Breau did an album with Buddy Emmons in 1978
http://www.enter.net/~rainsong/lbma.html
Yvan
"Ra" <use...@freetoys.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Bill Ribas
> The 3 pedals and knee lever must add a whole 'nother
> dimension of difficulty, to what may look easy,
> going on up top.
> best regards,
> Ra
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> Now... wholesale to the public
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>
Yeah, and the more you spend, the more pedals and levers you get. check
http://www.steelguitar.net/ for an idea . . .
Ra
> Yeah, and the more you spend, the more pedals and levers you get. check http://www.steelguitar.net/ for an idea . . .
8 pedals and 7 knees:
http://www.steelguitar.net/emmons.html
Ay ay AY!
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Ra
> Lenny Breau did an album with Buddy Emmons in 1978> http://www.enter.net/~rainsong/lbma.html
> Yvan
Looks interesting.
Tried to see if I could buy it on Amazon..
but their only reference to it, is in a book
on the istory of Country music.
You made me realize that I've been neglecting
Lenny Breau though.
I'm grabbing ' 5 O'Clock Bells '
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000003TKN/
I guess Lenny didn't last a real long time?
Mondoslug1
Most of the jazz stuff you hear is generally done on the 2nd neck of a
doubleneck steel which is C6 tuning. It has a different pedal & knee lever
configuration than the standard single neck E9 tuning although there's a
Universal Tuning also that some use on a single neck steel - sort of a hybrid I
guess.
Al
pedals) and dobro. He's excellent and can really get around on that stuff
with roots music (Hawaiian, blues, country, rockabilly, R&R, western swing,
bluegrass -- really fun stuff to sit in on). But the tunings (at least the
ones he uses) don't seem to lend themselves to complicated jazz harmonies.
His group does some cool things though. Booker T's "Green Onions" sounds
really cool on steel.
Tone
> I can send you an mp3 of Buddy Emmons doing Cherokee if you want. Since I
> just started learning pedal steel, I have been looking for all types of
> stuff to listen to.
For some variety check out the Holmes Brothers for some interesting
Blues/R&B with pedal steel, Gib Wharton was the pedal steel player.
One record was "Where its at". I think he's on the E9 although its
been a while since I listened.
I haven't been seeking out pedal steel lately but Paul Franklin is
probably still the reigning virtuoso. I never really heard him play
straight ahead jazz but he kills on the C6th stuff on the George
Strait country swing type tunes. And for a more modern sounding slant
on country/rock check Franklin out on the Notting Cowboys or other
Mark Knopfler projects. I think he's probably on some of the more
recent Dire Straits, I know he toured with them.
Greger Hoel
>And for a more modern sounding slant
>on country/rock check Franklin out on the Notting Cowboys or other
>Mark Knopfler projects.
You mean the Notting Hillbillies, don't you?
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>
> Seems like an instrument that is more intuitive.. than cerebral,
> with the open tuning and slide?
I think there is a steel group on Usenet but I would not post that comment
there. Years ago when I played with a country band the steel player was
explaining the pedals and knee levers to me. This thing is not an autoharp,
and the guy I spoke to certainly knew his theory. He had to. But don't
take my word for it. Go ahead, ask the steel players.
Max Leggett
[post to alt.steel] So, is it true that steel players have IQs in the
same range as the number of their stings? Just curious.
[But I'd change my screen name and host before I did that. And not
xpost to rmmgj. It'd make an interesting thread, though. :-)]
[follow up post to alt.steel] So, like, I hear that steel players get
into the instrument when they fail the entrance tests for gas station
attendant. Zat so?
LOL! I haven't the guts to do it. But there was a cover article on a
steel player in a recent GP. I didn't check his clips, but the editors
were wowed.
Tone
> just started learning pedal steel, I have been looking for all types of
> stuff to listen to.
One other guy I thought of is Steve Palousek. He has an amazing
version of Spain on one of his tapes/CDs.
Mondoslug1
>same range as the number of their stings? Just curious.
>
go listen to Buddy Emmons play swing.
Mondoslug1
>One other guy I thought of is Steve Palousek. He has an amazing
>version of Spain on one of his tapes/CDs.
>
Hey i know Steve - really great guy. Subbed & played a couple of shows with him
in town. i think he moved back to texas?
Bill Ribas
.http://www.frontiernet.net/~bribas/
Max Leggett
wrote:
>Max, check the four wheel drive cut here before i take it down. .
>.http://www.frontiernet.net/~bribas/
Man, that's killer playing. And it's obvious that his choice of notes
isn't at all limited by his tuning. His chord work is, but his single
line stuff is just fine. I rather suspected as much, so it's just as
well I didn't start a xpost flame war with alt.steel. :-) Tx for
posting that.
John Dahlstedt
a run for their money on bebop standards.
Bill Ribas
I will take it down soon. and again, these clips are for educational
purposes only. . . .
"Max Leggett" <hepkatre...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Al
Also, check out the Steel Guitar Forum. Lots of great and insightful
players there.
Max Leggett
wrote:
>Same link as before, you can hear him rip up Cherokee. Check it out now, as
>I will take it down soon. and again, these clips are for educational
>purposes only. . . .
Great stuff. His brain is wired to his fingers and he's not searching
for anything, just playing. Tx again for the heads up.
Bill Ribas
move the bar and pick, well, there's a whole lot of appreciation.
"Max Leggett" <hepkatre...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Adey
I'd never thought of looking for a sound like this.
I have no scruples about downloading the mp3s because I'd never have bought
them without hearing it, but now I'm very interested.
Lovely stuff.
XX
Adey
"Bill Ribas" <nos...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>I can send you an mp3 of Buddy Emmons doing Cherokee if you want. Since I
>just started learning pedal steel, I have been looking for all types of
>stuff to listen to. And believe me, it's a lot easier to listen than to
>play, due to the variety of tunings. I thought, well, know learning jazz is
>tough, but the pedal steel is, well, a lot tougher than I thought.
>
>
> "Ra" <use...@freetoys.com> wrote in message
> news:KJbad.307740$%n4.3...@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> I'd like to hear that.
>>
>> Seems like an instrument that is more intuitive.. than cerebral,
>> with the open tuning and slide?
>>
>> Might make for good Arpeggio practice?
>>
>>
>> I saw Robert Randolph and the Family Band on Austin City Limits last
>> night.
>> They weren't playing Country music either.. but it seems like the kind of
>> thing that could cross boundaries, in the right hands.
>>
>> They actually had 4 steel guitars going at once, in the finale medley.
>>
>> Also had a real talented 6 string bass driving things.. and another guy
>> playing
>> lead on a Flying V. Saw another guy playing a Strat and there were
>> keyboards,
>> drums and background singers.
>>
>>
>> You may have heard this guy's current hit?
>> " I Need More Love Every Day of My Life "
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
bob r
mondo...@aol.comwaht wrote on 10/10/04 4:45 PM:
>> [post to alt.steel] So, is it true that steel players have IQs in the
>> same range as the number of their stings? Just curious.
>>
>
> go listen to Buddy Emmons play swing.
I had a go at pedal steel back in the '70s. It's a lot like flying a
frickin' airplane! There's a lot to think about: bar position is critical;
the tunings are not exactly intuitive; you're bending strings with your left
foot and working a volume pedal with your right foot... and then there's the
whole right-hand thing to work on. Damping strings well is in itself a
considerable task. It became clear to me that I'd have to pretty much quit
playing guitar and concentrate on that thing for quite a while if I were
ever going to get anywhere on it. So it had to go. Mine was a Sho-Bud
Maverick, BTW. Good-sounding steel... or it would have been, in the right
hands. :-)
--
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http://www.bobrussellguitar.com
CD, "Watch This!", available at:
http://www.cdbaby.com/bobrussell
bob r
hepkatre...@hotmail.com wrote on 10/10/04 7:20 PM:
> On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 22:53:19 GMT, "Bill Ribas" <nos...@spam.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Same link as before, you can hear him rip up Cherokee. Check it out now, as
>> I will take it down soon. and again, these clips are for educational
>> purposes only. . . .
>
> Great stuff. His brain is wired to his fingers and he's not searching
> for anything, just playing. Tx again for the heads up.
Listening to a lot of steel guitar players, Buddy Emmons in particular, had
a major role in warping my approach to playing jazz and guitar in general.
And now that I've started playing fingerstyle, I find a lot of that
"steelish" stuff coming out when I play. More stuff to piss off the jazz
police.
Mondoslug1
>
>> On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 22:53:19 GMT, "Bill Ribas" <nos...@spam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Same link as before, you can hear him rip up Cherokee. Check it out now,
>as
>>> I will take it down soon. and again, these clips are for educational
>>> purposes only. . . .
>>
>> Great stuff. His brain is wired to his fingers and he's not searching
>> for anything, just playing. Tx again for the heads up.
>
>Listening to a lot of steel guitar players, Buddy Emmons in particular, had
>a major role in warping my approach to playing jazz and guitar in general.
>And now that I've started playing fingerstyle, I find a lot of that
>"steelish" stuff coming out when I play. More stuff to piss off the jazz
>police.
Hey mister this is a no vibrato zone...
Bill Ribas
integrity of this group seems a bit higher than the average knucklehead. and
the tendency for piracy is a lot lower. i'd post the occasional mp3 knowing
that people like you will search out the cd and pay for it.
"Adey" <ad...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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RSevenStrings
nice. My friend, guitarist Larry Camp, played a jazz gig with him in Florida
not long ago, said he played his butt off, and Larry would know. Check out Tom
Morrell also, he does it with no pedals!
Ra
Amazon's got it.. but there are no sound clips...
and it's a bit pricey:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000759ZM
There is some Morrell available:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000023HV/qid=1097467386/sr=1-1
Gotta love that 'If You're So Smart, How Come You Ain't Rich'
That's the link to jazz right there... Western Swing
Getting back to the Austin City Limits steel guitar spectacular...
I don't think most of those guys were using much, if any, pedal.
I saw a thread on the show in the Steel Guitar forum that someone provided a link to..
and the opinions there varied a lot. Some people were glad that Robert Randolph
is getting exposure for the steel guitar... but they don't care for his style.
I can envision more people trying to incorporate these sounds into their music.
A nice subtle touch with some of the deep background effects these can produce
could meld well with a lot of contemporary stuff.
--
best regards,
Ra
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Steven Husting
Jeff was probably the leading educator for pedal steel, and a funny
guy. There are some interesting articles, too.
There has been quite a bit of jazz played on steel, with Buddy Emmons
being the best know proponent.
"Al" <data...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message news:<896dnf7AwYy...@speakeasy.net>...
Henry Moon
ANY jazzer or any musician with any kind of ears could not stand in
front of Emmons while he's cookin and not be in frozen awe. Bold
statement, but I stand by it.
I had the pleasure of being at some sessions in Nashville that he was
playing on. I wish everyone could hear the stuff he [and Brent Mason]
were doing between takes.
If I had the talent to cop just one of his jazz licks- I would play it
till the jazz police gave up to Internal Affairs!
Henry
Tone
> On 10 Oct 2004 13:09:16 -0700, a.ko...@computer.org (Tone) wrote:
>
> >And for a more modern sounding slant
> >on country/rock check Franklin out on the Notting Cowboys or other
> >Mark Knopfler projects.
>
> You mean the Notting Hillbillies, don't you?
Yep, thanks for the correction.
Tone
> a.kolarik:
>
> >One other guy I thought of is Steve Palousek. He has an amazing
> >version of Spain on one of his tapes/CDs.
> >
>
> Hey i know Steve - really great guy. Subbed & played a couple of shows with him
> in town. i think he moved back to texas?
Well I'm glad he's a nice guy but he was about the final nail in my
pedal steel coffin ;-)
Definitely not something you can just "pick up". Unless maybe you were
already a great banjo or classical guitar player who doubled on B3.
But something about the sound of those things in the hands of a Buddy
Emmons, Lloyd Green, Paul Franklin, Steve Palousek, just kills me.
There's something so emotional about the combination of non-fixed
pitch and the sustain and volume swells. And the tone those guys get!
Whew.
Not to mention that the Nashville guys like Emmons and Jimmy Day
basically invented that E9 stuff from nothing. I wish I'd been exposed
younger.
Bill Casady
Emmons is mucho fun to hear, for sure. Another guy who got a lot of
music out of steel was Curly Chalker. Very strong, chord-wise.
Regards,
Bill C.
Jurupari
>
>Yep, thanks for the correction.
or as they could have been known, The Sons Of The Guys Who Used To Wear Red
Coats and Shoot At the Pioneers.
Greger Hoel
That was their first choice, but they didn't have room for it on the
cover.
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Curly Chalker, Herby Wallace Paul Franklin and Tommy White (no relation
to Maurice White - Tommy's one of the White Family, also related to Ricky
Skaggs) to name a few. Tommy White just might be the greatest overall steel
player I've ever heard. There are also dozens of great steel players who can play
jazz squirreled away in nooks and crannies all over the country.
Playing jazz is a notoriously favorite hobby of many country players.
Beware of the perception of intuitiveness. There are a lot of pedals and knee
levers to learn...
Gantt
Ra wrote:
> I'd like to hear that.
>
> Seems like an instrument that is more intuitive.. than cerebral,
> with the open tuning and slide?
>
> Might make for good Arpeggio practice?
>
> I saw Robert Randolph and the Family Band on Austin City Limits last night.
> They weren't playing Country music either.. but it seems like the kind of
> thing that could cross boundaries, in the right hands.
>
> They actually had 4 steel guitars going at once, in the finale medley.
>
> Also had a real talented 6 string bass driving things.. and another guy playing
> lead on a Flying V. Saw another guy playing a Strat and there were keyboards,
> drums and background singers.
>
> You may have heard this guy's current hit?
> " I Need More Love Every Day of My Life "
>
> --
> best regards,
> Ra
> ----------------------------------------------------
Gantt Kushner
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000000MDS/002-3729531-2920019?v=glance&st=*#product-details
Some Curly Chalker links.
Also - It's Maurice Anderson, not White. They didn't have a pedal steel
player in Earth, Wind and Fire!
Sorry 'bout that. Old age is a terrible thing.
Gantt
Gantt Kushner
Stan Gosnell
news:20041012000340...@mb-m10.aol.com:
> Stan Gosnell wrote:
>
> Emmons is definitely well back in
>>second place, but still not bad.
>
> You are a funny guy
Well, taste is a subjective thing, but I think Remington is a much better
player than Emmons, YMMV.
--
Regards,
Stan
Tone
Wow. I guess you can't get more subjective than "better" but I find
"much better" hard to swallow.
For instance on the Remington with Herb Ellis CD I have he doesn't
knock my socks off, and in the interview with Remington I read about
the session, he was complaining about Ellis taking the tunes too fast,
which pretty much matches what I heard. I'd be interested in what
recordings you think show him at his best (much better than Emmons).
Stan Gosnell
news:9d02ac83.04101...@posting.google.com:
> For instance on the Remington with Herb Ellis CD I have he doesn't
> knock my socks off, and in the interview with Remington I read about
> the session, he was complaining about Ellis taking the tunes too fast,
> which pretty much matches what I heard. I'd be interested in what
> recordings you think show him at his best (much better than Emmons).
>
Ellis generally plays fast, I guess he got that habit from OP, but maybe not.
I haven't really listened to a huge amount of modern steel stuff, but the Bob
Wills Tiffany Transcriptions stuff is mostly what I'm referring to. It's
probably not for everyone, but the playing on it is first-rate, especially
the stuff with Remington, Moore, and Shamblin together.
--
Regards,
Stan
Ra
One of the paths that led to a purchase...
was when I started looking into Lenny Breau.
That led to buying a CD of Chet Atkins doing duets.
Looking forward to that.
--
best regards,
Ra
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bob r
ott...@hotmail.com wrote on 10/12/04 7:57 PM:
> Don't undersestimate the Steel Players
All anyone has to do is sit down and try to play something that sounds good
on one for a while. You'll come away with some respect!
Aaron Kumove
I have only heard a few tracks, but it sounded good.
You might find it on Amazon. Cant' recall the name or if it is still in
print.
Aaron
Ra wrote:
> "Bill Ribas" wrote
>
>
>>I can send you an mp3 of Buddy Emmons doing Cherokee if you want. Since I just started learning pedal steel, I have been looking
>>for all types of stuff to listen to. And believe me, it's a lot easier to listen than to play, due to the variety of tunings. I
>>thought, well, know learning jazz is tough, but the pedal steel is, well, a lot tougher than I thought.
>
>
>
> Thanks.. but I try to shy away from taking someone's music
> without their consent, unless it's obsolete or expired material, or something.
>
> I'll look him up and see if I can find something online.
>
>
> Gracias.
> I'd like to see a photo of your guitar.
>
>
>
Don Judy
>
> Seems like an instrument that is more intuitive.. than cerebral,
> with the open tuning and slide?
>
> Might make for good Arpeggio practice?
Besides Buddy Emmons there was Curly Chalker. More of a single line kind of
guy.
>
>
> I saw Robert Randolph and the Family Band on Austin City Limits last
night.
> They weren't playing Country music either.. but it seems like the kind of
> thing that could cross boundaries, in the right hands.
>
> They actually had 4 steel guitars going at once, in the finale medley.
>
> Also had a real talented 6 string bass driving things.. and another guy
playing
> lead on a Flying V. Saw another guy playing a Strat and there were
keyboards,
> drums and background singers.
>
>
> You may have heard this guy's current hit?
> " I Need More Love Every Day of My Life "
>
>
>
>
> --
> best regards,
> Ra
> ----------------------------------------------------
Stan Gosnell
@bignews3.bellsouth.net:
> This thread has led me to a lot of places so far.
>
> One of the paths that led to a purchase...
> was when I started looking into Lenny Breau.
> That led to buying a CD of Chet Atkins doing duets.
>
> Looking forward to that.
Yeah, Chet could pick. He was known as country, but that was just because
everyone has to fit into a particular pigeonhole. He could play anything,
and did.
--
Regards,
Stan
Tone
>
> Ellis generally plays fast, I guess he got that habit from OP, but maybe not.
> I haven't really listened to a huge amount of modern steel stuff, but the Bob
> Wills Tiffany Transcriptions stuff is mostly what I'm referring to. It's
> probably not for everyone, but the playing on it is first-rate, especially
> the stuff with Remington, Moore, and Shamblin together.
I think all I have of those Tiffany Transcriptions is on a Bob Wills
collection but it includes "Three Guitar Special" with all three of
them from '47 and it sounds like Remington was playing straight steel
then not pedal steel, along the lines of Leon McAuliffe.
(From what I've read the sound of pedaled notes, as opposed to pushing
pedals then picking at the new pitch, was first recorded by Bud Issacs
on Webb Pierce's hit "Slowly" in '53, at which point everyone w/a
steel started adding pedals.) And pedal steel (with pedaled/knee'd
notes) is one place Emmons really shines. Not that he can't/couldn't
do all the chimes and so on that the earlier guys did, and play the
6th type tunings, but playing the pedals/knees is a whole other thing.
I'd be pretty surprised if Emmons couldn't play the straight steel on
country swing stuff since he played it first but you're right that
he's known for a more modern/pedal style.
BTW, I'm glad you brought up Wills, I haven't listened to that stuff
in a while and he sure had some great pickers.
Ra
> The album described below (Steel Guitar Jazz) is the most convincing steel
> guitar jazz recording that I have ever heard. A lot of Emmon's ideas sound
> similar to those of guitarist Hank Garland.
> Charlie Robinson Jazz Guitarist, Composer
Oooh
This is another good one.
Very subtle and delicate work here!
I wanted to get the NME anyway,
so I bought 'Steel Guitar Jazz' too... and placed another order.
( it said I got Amazon's last copy... but the 'Amazon Sellers' have some available )
Thanks..
and thanks to John for the 'Redneck Jazz'.
I see that is also available in a 3 CD set, on both Amazon and eBay.
I got a 1 CD version.. but I hope it has 'When Sunny Get's Blue' on it.
I saw that on the 'trilogy' page.
--
best regards,
Ra
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JBAfromNY
> I'd like to hear that.
>
> Seems like an instrument that is more intuitive.. than cerebral,
> with the open tuning and slide?
>
> Might make for good Arpeggio practice?
>
>
> They weren't playing Country music either.. but it seems like the kind of
> thing that could cross boundaries, in the right hands.
>
> They actually had 4 steel guitars going at once, in the finale medley.
>
> Also had a real talented 6 string bass driving things.. and another guy playing
> lead on a Flying V. Saw another guy playing a Strat and there were keyboards,
> drums and background singers.
>
Explosion. There's at least one legit release that I'm aware of
called "Redneck Jazz" that's probably still in print. I've also heard
a number of bootlegs. "Redneck Jazz" might not meet some definitions
of "Jazz" -- no standards, more of a R&R-funky-country-garage
band-everything-but-the-kitchen sink feel common to pretty much
everything Gatton ever did -- but it's got some killer playing.
Emmons plays pedal steel, but Gatton only plays tele on this record.
Gatton plays lap steel and pedal steel on many other records, though I
guess any time you talk about Gatton, you open the whole "what is
jazz?" can of worms. Somebody else mentioned the Holmes brothers, and
I'll second that recommendation. I saw them many times back in the
Dan Lynch days, and they always killed. In addition to the pedal
steel, their drummer also has the most amazing falsetto voice.
John
Stan Gosnell
> I think all I have of those Tiffany Transcriptions is on a Bob Wills
> collection but it includes "Three Guitar Special" with all three of
> them from '47 and it sounds like Remington was playing straight steel
> then not pedal steel, along the lines of Leon McAuliffe.
Yes, AFAIK the pedal steel was still in the future. I prefer the straight
steel sound.
> BTW, I'm glad you brought up Wills, I haven't listened to that stuff
> in a while and he sure had some great pickers.
Yep. They could play with anyone, and did. There are photos of them jamming
with members of the Basie and Ellington bands, and from reports they could
hold their own.
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Regards,
Stan
Ra
'Steel Guitar Jazz' arrived yesterday.
Buddie Emmons really dominates the songs.
The bass, drums and piano seem almost like a backing track.
Great stuff though.
I was just checking out Amazon for 'Redneck Jazz Explosion'.
I see another title;
'Amazing Steel Guitar: The Buddie Emmons Collection'
Seems like a good choice to hear him at his best.
Amazon provides a taste of all 16 songs:
There are also 4 complete songs available for download.
I also received 'Bach Beatles Bluegrass',
by the Nashville Mandolin Ensemble.
Some tunes are;
'In Memory of Elizabeth Reed'
'Nuages'
'Eleanor Rigby'
'Rite of Strings'
'Stardust'
I love the Elizabeth Reed cut.
Amazon provides a stream of clips, from all 15 cuts.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0001Z232C/qid=1098198500/sr=2-1
Stan Gosnell
@bignews3.bellsouth.net:
> I love the Elizabeth Reed cut.
>
Then you should like Paul Glasse. "The Road To Home" has a number of cuts
in that vein. Amazon seems to be out of all his stuff, though.
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Regards,
Stan
Ra
"Stan Gosnell" wrote
>> I love the Elizabeth Reed cut.
> Then you should like Paul Glasse. "The Road To Home" has a number of cuts
> in that vein. Amazon seems to be out of all his stuff, though.
> --
> Regards,
> Stan
I'll try and remember that name.
Thanks.
Stan Gosnell
news:pThdd.183568$as2.1...@bignews3.bellsouth.net:
> I'll try and remember that name.
Paul is a very fine mandolinist. He plays both acoustic and 5-string
solid-body, and has played with some well-known artists. He toured with
Lyle Lovett at one time, and has a few CDs of his own out.
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Regards,
Stan