Outro
OldJazzBass
recall hearing the term until recent years.
Calling a repeated intro at the end of a song an "intro" doesn't make perfect
sense, but I prefer it.
Is "outro" simply a synonym for "ending," or something more meaningful?
Jurupari
I think you're looking for more structure than there is. I sometimes practice
stuff I think of as outros or segues into another song or whatever. Usually I
do keep it shorter, I guess.
Clif
Gerry
<oldja...@aol.com> wrote:
> Is there a better term to use other than this non-word? A new trend? I don't
> recall hearing the term until recent years.
I've heard and used the term (and read it too) since at least 1974.
> Calling a repeated intro at the end of a song an "intro" doesn't make perfect
> sense, but I prefer it.
> Is "outro" simply a synonym for "ending," or something more meaningful?
Nope. It just means the rear-end equivalent of an intro.
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I think of outros as being elaborate endings, or fade-outs. Something more
complex than the norm.
I followed Pt's link to the Beatles song analysis site, and I read the page
on "You Never Give Me Your Money." That last bit, the One Sweet Dream
section, where the children sing "one two three four five six seven" into
the fadeout... is an outro. That's definitely not a repeat of the intro.
The intro in that song is completely different.
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Greg D
> Is there a better term to use other than this non-word? A new trend?
I use "outro" for the ending of a song, assuming it does something other
than just cutoff right after a chorus or verse. That is, and outro to me is
the trailing end of a song - maybe they vamp over the (sung) chorus twice
or they change keys and end on a non-key chord.
Greg
Saulo Valerio
and literally means "another". So perhaps what it was meant as when it was
first introduced was "another intro" kind of thing. We all know what it
really means, anyway!
Saulo Valerio
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Keith Freeman
the theme/head or only after the "out" head. I suppose outro is at least
unambiguous in that it must come at the very end, not at the end of the
head.
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Keith Freeman
> too)
in English go), "altro" in Italian. Jazz "outro" doesn't derive from any of
those, it's simply "intro" with "out" substituted for "in".
Stephen Calder
From the New Shorter Oxford Dictionary (1993):
<<outro. Colloquial. [from "out" (adv) after "intro"] A concluding section,
especially of a broadcast programme or musical work.>>
Therefore it's not a non-word, and it's not Spanish or Portuguese, and it's
at least 10 years old. Oxford requires several examples in print before
including it in their dictionaries. Language is a consensus, ignorant of
your personal preference, and the word has been accepted. Get over it.
Stephen
Byron Bay, Australia
Chip L
Folksmen were discussing whether or not they were 'retro', in, or 'outro'.
Chip L
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Pt
take a dump.
Thus it is used when you want to dump a song.
Pt
OldJazzBass
Stephen
Byron Bay, Australia >><BR><BR>
Thanks for clarifying. I stand corrected. I looked for it in my huge Webster's
Dictionary (1989) before calling it a non-word. Excuse me, and please get over
it.
I was wondering if "outro" had a specific meaning universally recognized by
musicians who use the term. It appears there is no consensus.
Jurupari
>at least 10 years old.
If vamp is a word so's outro.
Pt
>I was wondering if "outro" had a specific meaning universally recognized by
>musicians who use the term. It appears there is no consensus.
>
>
I think of it as some way of leading to the end of a song.
But the non-word "outro" doesn't have any exact meaning to me.
Plus I never heard or saw the non-word until a few years ago.
I don't believe it exists in standard music notation.
Pt
Pt
Vamp is a word.
It is a hooker.
Vamp of Savannah. (jazz song)
Pt
Keith Freeman
make it into print.
Jose Paulo Pires
> Therefore it's not a non-word, and it's not Spanish or Portuguese, and it's
"Outro" is a VERY common Portuguese word, and as somebody else
said it means "another".
For example:
"Eu quero comprar OUTRO amp".
"I wanna buy another ANOTHER amp".
I do speak (a little) spanish and italian, and as far as I remember,
this word has a similar spelling and the same meaning in those
languages too.
Willie K.Yee, M.D.
The term "tag" is also used, including in BIAB. It often refers to
repeating the last cadence of 2 or four bars over a couple times, as
in a "triple-tag."
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Keith Freeman
> repeating the last cadence of 2 or four bars over a couple times, as
> in a "triple-tag."
34-bar form (i.e. the ones that make it go over the symmetrical limit, 16,
32, whatever).
Stephen Calder
I guess not. By the way, apologies for being abrasive. I still get that way
sometimes, even in these my mellower years. And yes you are forgiven.
Stephen
Byron Bay, Australia
Stephen Calder
I don't dispute that. But it's not the origin of the word in question.
Stephen
Lumpy
things like the Academy Awards and other
awards gigs. They're longer than playons
and playoffs.
P's & P's are when the winner
is walking up to or away from the stage.
I's and O's are when they are introducing
or leaving a segment of the show.
exp - Kirk Douglas has a playon and playoff
- Best Picture has an intro and outro
When they're just going to and from
commercials, I've seen them called "bumpers".
Lumpy
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Jose Paulo Pires
I see.
JP