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Dan Adler

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Oct 28, 2004, 6:39:11 AM10/28/04
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How many people here have tried AER amps? A few months ago I saw Jack
Wilkins use one on a solos gig and then a couple of weeks ago I saw
Russell Malone use an AER-60 on stage with his quartet and he got an
amazingly rich and warm tone. Something like a Polytone with some
Fender Twin thrown in, which is the signature Benson sound. He had a PA
mike just hanging on it and his sound cut through with no problems.
I've never seen or tried one at a store in NY. I heared Matt Umanov
carries them.

-Dan
http://danadler.com

Elektrik Hendrik

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Oct 28, 2004, 6:49:42 AM10/28/04
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Last night in the car I was listening to Benson's Song For My Father
recording on a Jazz Guitar sampler CD and was blown away by his sound and
also by the fact how much it stood out from the other big name guitar
players on that CD.

So Benson's sound is a combo of a Polytone and a Twin? Very curious!


Charlie Robinson

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Oct 28, 2004, 7:18:19 AM10/28/04
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>So Benson's sound is a combo of a Polytone and a Twin? Very curious!
>
-----------------------------------------------

The night that he let me sit in years ago he was playing a Guild Artist Award
through a Twin. I played his axe but didn't sound like him. His picking style,
touch,etc. have a lot to do with his overall sound.

Charlie Robinson Jazz Guitarist, Composer
You can hear and see me online (video) at:
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Ken Rose

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Oct 28, 2004, 7:34:20 AM10/28/04
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I had an AER-60. I found it brighter than I prefer for use with an archtop,
but it sounded real nice with a nylon string, and would probably also sound
great with a flattop. I think that's more what they're designed for. It
also has two channels, one of which has a mic input. I much prefer a Clarus
SLR with a NY8. Lots more headroom and warmth, but the AER is more
versatile.

Ken Rose
www.cdbaby.com/kenrose

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Gantt Kushner

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Oct 28, 2004, 8:04:56 AM10/28/04
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I recorded one of our local guys, Steve Abshire, using an AER. It sounded

great. I took a DI and put a mic on the amp and the amp won hands down
when it came time to mix. It was a little noisy (some hiss), but the tone

was superb.

Gantt

GregD/OASYSCO

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Oct 28, 2004, 8:13:50 AM10/28/04
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robins...@aol.com (Charlie Robinson) wrote in
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>>So Benson's sound is a combo of a Polytone and a Twin? Very curious!
>>
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> The night that he let me sit in years ago he was playing a Guild
> Artist Award through a Twin. I played his axe but didn't sound like
> him. His picking style, touch,etc. have a lot to do with his overall
> sound.

Now, there's something to be proud of --- sitting in with GB! Wow!

Greg

Mark Kleinhaut

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Oct 28, 2004, 9:30:58 AM10/28/04
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I played through Dave Moss's rig a couple of years ago over the course of
our two weeks in EU. The tone of the amp was excellent, but I found it kind
of underpowered for keeping up with drums. One of the finest "livingroom"
amps out there and great for solo or duo gigs too. Clarus/NY8 slays it dead,
however.

www.markkleinhaut.com


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Oct 28, 2004, 9:41:43 AM10/28/04
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Uzytkownik "Dan Adler" <d...@danadler.com> napisal w wiadomosci
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> How many people here have tried AER amps?

I used to play on AER Cube 60. Very good and versatile, small, light but
pretty loud. I plugged mostly acoustic guitar into it, but it had very good
jazz sound with solid body also (I used mahogany body with Seymour Duncan
'59 pups).


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Jeff Lange

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Oct 28, 2004, 9:59:44 AM10/28/04
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If anyone in the group has an AER in the NY area and wants to do some side
by side testing with the Acoustic Image/Raezers Edge equipment, I'll make my
myself and inventory available.

Jeff Lange
www.JazzSelect.com

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Morey Richman

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Oct 28, 2004, 11:16:27 AM10/28/04
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I've got the 120 watt Acousticube IIa, which is the top of the line AER and
sounds significantly better than the Compact 60, more headroom, more punch,
etc. It is a wonderful little amp and has just about every feature you'd
want in a Jazz amp except low cost (!)(small, portable, light, seemingly
indestructible, great built in digital reverb) but the fact that the
concentric tweeter cannot be adjusted for volume or turned off completely
(unlike the RE Stealth ER), means that it has just a bit too much crispness
in its sound IMO. It's wonderful for flat top or nylon string though, and
can sound great for acoustic archtops with floating pickups when you want a
bit of that top end. If they'd just put in an adjustable tweeter it might
make the perfect small Jazz amp...


Pat Smith

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Oct 28, 2004, 11:22:37 AM10/28/04
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I have an AER Compact 60. For a while it was my only amp. Now I also
have a couple of Carr's. You can hear my AER on Soundclick on the tunes
near the bottom of the page (Midnight, Mile Lays, and Swing Street)

Pat Smith

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Oct 28, 2004, 12:37:35 PM10/28/04
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Charlie Robinson

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Oct 28, 2004, 12:51:55 PM10/28/04
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>
>Now, there's something to be proud of --- sitting in with GB! Wow!
>
>Greg
>
--------------------------------------------------

I'll never forget that.It was just one of those lucky things that happen to you
once in a while if you are in this field. There weren't many people in the club
so he asked me if I wanted to start off his last set for him. He left me up
there for the whole set. I was so nervous that his guitar was bouncing up and
down on my lap. If you there is anything more that you would like to know Email
me as I'll be out of here for a few days.

Dan Adler

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Oct 28, 2004, 1:30:51 PM10/28/04
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> Clarus/NY8 slays it dead, however.

Ya had ta get that one in ? :-)

I'm glad you came over to jam recently so I could pull out my
Clarus/NY8 to avoid it collecting dust... (couldn't resist, sorry).

Why can't anyone make the perfect amp??!?!?
- One Piece
- 15 Pounds tops
- Sounds like AER
- 300 Watts
- Reverb

optional features:
- 30 foot cable with surge protector
- Guitar cable already built in

-Dan
http://danadler.com

GregD/OASYSCO

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Oct 28, 2004, 1:55:53 PM10/28/04
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"Dan Adler" <d...@danadler.com> wrote in news:1098984651.893993.137880
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Add a built-in guitar player and I'll buy it!

Greg

>
> -Dan
> http://danadler.com
>
>

Michael Tueller

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Oct 28, 2004, 2:17:30 PM10/28/04
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:16:27 +0200, Morey Richman wrote
(in message <f38gd.50212$Pl.15907@pd7tw1no>):

> but the fact that the
> concentric tweeter cannot be adjusted for volume or turned off completely
> (unlike the RE Stealth ER), means that it has just a bit too much crispness
> in its sound IMO.

That's exactly what I feel about my AcousticubeIIa.
Mine also has a little noisy FX-section (no problem live or
at louder levels).

We need more RE/Clarus dealers in Europe, I'd really like
try out this combo (expecially the RE-cabs).

Mike

Jack Zucker

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Oct 28, 2004, 2:52:15 PM10/28/04
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I would think it'd be relatively easy to put the tweeter on a switch? Maybe
one of the amp techs here could comment? Hello, Mr. Lange?!?

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Mark Guest

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Oct 28, 2004, 3:41:28 PM10/28/04
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"Morey Richman" <moreyr...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> I've got the 120 watt Acousticube IIa, which is the top of the line AER
and
> sounds significantly better than the Compact 60, more headroom, more
punch,
> etc. It is a wonderful little amp and has just about every feature you'd
> want in a Jazz amp except low cost (!)(small, portable, light, seemingly
> indestructible, great built in digital reverb) but the fact that the
> concentric tweeter cannot be adjusted for volume or turned off completely
> (unlike the RE Stealth ER), means that it has just a bit too much
crispness
> in its sound IMO. It's wonderful for flat top or nylon string though, and
> can sound great for acoustic archtops with floating pickups when you want
a
> bit of that top end. If they'd just put in an adjustable tweeter it might
> make the perfect small Jazz amp...

Hi Morey,

Have you (or anyone else here) tried putting a tube preamp in front of the
AER? I'm playing around with a Clarus / RE S12ER, and I find the tweeter
makes the sound too dry. Once the tube is in the chain, it sounds great for
archtop and nylon. I've not tried flat-top through the rig.
--
Mark Guest
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www.MarkGuest.net


paul

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Oct 28, 2004, 3:52:46 PM10/28/04
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Dan Adler wrote:

>
> I'm glad you came over to jam recently so I could pull out my
> Clarus/NY8 to avoid it collecting dust... (couldn't resist, sorry).
>

I thought you switched!? are you back to polytones?

Dan Adler

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Oct 28, 2004, 6:10:54 PM10/28/04
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I have both, but find myself hardly ever using the Clarus/RE.
-Dan
http://danadler.com

Jeff Lange

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Oct 28, 2004, 7:49:57 PM10/28/04
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Jack: You are correct, a switch for the tweeter is a simple modification.
Any tech should be able to do it. Actually, Acoustic Image has an on-off
switch for the tweeter on the Contra extension cabinets; a simple but
valuable feature.

Jeff Lange
www.JazzSelect.com

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Morey Richman

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Oct 28, 2004, 10:12:27 PM10/28/04
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"Mark Guest" <ja...@REMOVETHISMarkGuest.net> wrote in message
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Hi Mark,

I've never tried putting a tube preamp in front of the AER, I just use it
for my flat tops. Maybe I should, but I've been using the Clarus/RE Twin 8
or Stealth ER for my archtops and am happy with that sound. Ironically, with
all these fancy guitars and amplification gear, lately I've been digging my
P90 equipped Les Paul '54 goldtop and a Mark III Boogie for Jazz.... go
figure. I like Jack's idea of a tweeter switch though.


Mark Guest

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Oct 29, 2004, 7:55:42 AM10/29/04
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"Morey Richman" <moreyr...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> >
> > Hi Morey,
> >
> > Have you (or anyone else here) tried putting a tube preamp in front of
the
> > AER? I'm playing around with a Clarus / RE S12ER, and I find the tweeter
> > makes the sound too dry. Once the tube is in the chain, it sounds great
> > for
> > archtop and nylon. I've not tried flat-top through the rig.
> > --
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> I've never tried putting a tube preamp in front of the AER, I just use it
> for my flat tops. Maybe I should, but I've been using the Clarus/RE Twin 8
> or Stealth ER for my archtops and am happy with that sound. Ironically,
with
> all these fancy guitars and amplification gear, lately I've been digging
my
> P90 equipped Les Paul '54 goldtop and a Mark III Boogie for Jazz.... go
> figure. I like Jack's idea of a tweeter switch though.

A rheostat like the S12 ER would make me more interested in the AER, but I
*don't* have GAS. None. Not right now.

I like solid bodies for jazz, too.

Peter Catlin

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Oct 29, 2004, 12:30:49 PM10/29/04
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I have often used my Boogie MKIII on the recommended jazz setting and its
sounds pretty 'authentic' to me especially with my deeper bodied guitars
like the Golden Eagle, ES165 and X500. It is certainly the most reliable amp
I have ever owned to date, by a country mile but alas, for its size, also
the heaviest! Now alleviated somewhat by the recent addition of super
lightweight (neodymium) Celestion Century 90 watt 12" speaker to replace my
ultra heavyweight ElectroVoice. A bit more transparency ...thinner sounding
at higher volumes... but with that sort of weight saving I can be very
forgiving! Although it is a compromise, nonetheless it's one that has meant
I am now prepared to lug the Boogie about much more often, even when the AER
Compact60 or Polytone MBII would suffice.

Peter

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