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blackcat

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Apr 30, 2010, 7:11:14 AM4/30/10
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Just received notification that Tokai in the UK ( http://www.tokai-guitars.co.uk/index.ph
) are doing a 'high quality' version of the ES-175 in their Japanese
( not Korean/Chinese ) range. One piece neck by all accounts, p/us are
Gotoh. Previous version from them was Korean. Anyone here got one or
tried one?

Blackcat

sheetsofsound

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Apr 30, 2010, 7:17:42 AM4/30/10
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On Apr 30, 7:11 am, blackcat <blackc...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> Just received notification that Tokai in the UK (http://www.tokai-guitars.co.uk/index.ph

> ) are doing a 'high quality' version of the ES-175 in their Japanese
> ( not Korean/Chinese ) range. One piece neck by all accounts, p/us are
> Gotoh. Previous version from them was Korean.  Anyone here got one or
> tried one?
>
> Blackcat

no but every japanese guitar of theirs I've played I've liked more
than Gibson.

blackcat

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Apr 30, 2010, 7:19:21 AM4/30/10
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On Apr 30, 1:11 pm, blackcat <blackc...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> Just received notification that Tokai in the UK (http://www.tokai-guitars.co.uk/index.ph
> ) are doing a 'high quality' version of the ES-175 in their Japanese
> ( not Korean/Chinese ) range. One piece neck by all accounts, p/us are
> Gotoh. Previous version from them was Korean.  Anyone here got one or
> tried one?
>
> Blackcat

Oops! Link extension not complete, should read: http://www.tokai-guitars.co.uk/index.php?
Either way, go to site and click on 'Premium' range an note that
( bizaarly ) the 335 replica ( for that is what Tokais tend to be
rather than mere copies ) is designated 'ES-175' and the ES-175 a-like
is listed as UFA 180!

blackcat

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Apr 30, 2010, 7:21:18 AM4/30/10
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That's what everyone tells me.

Greger Hoel

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Apr 30, 2010, 10:18:39 AM4/30/10
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Haven't tried one, but I think they've been making them for decades.

--
Always cross a vampire; never moon a werewolf

blackcat

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Apr 30, 2010, 10:30:48 AM4/30/10
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On Apr 30, 4:18 pm, "Greger Hoel" <greg...@blowme.com> wrote:

> På Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:11:14 +0200, skrev blackcat <blackc...@wanadoo.fr>:
>
> > Just received notification that Tokai in the UK  
> > (http://www.tokai-guitars.co.uk/index.ph

> > ) are doing a 'high quality' version of the ES-175 in their Japanese
> > ( not Korean/Chinese ) range. One piece neck by all accounts, p/us are
> > Gotoh. Previous version from them was Korean.  Anyone here got one or
> > tried one?
>
> Haven't tried one, but I think they've been making them for decades.
>
> --
> Always cross a vampire; never moon a werewolf

You could well be right, it's just that when I was in the UK they only
offered a Korean version. At the same time with ( for instance ) our
old friends Peerless, many of the models offered in N.Jersey are not
for sale in mainland Europe.

drthoma...@gmail.com

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Apr 30, 2010, 4:07:56 PM4/30/10
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I like the one with the aluminum body and the blue LED fingerboard
dots!

How is the nut width on these Tokais? Skinny little nuts for girly men
with puny fingers, or what?

steve

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Apr 30, 2010, 5:29:18 PM4/30/10
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On 30-Apr-2010, "tomb...@jhu.edu" <drthoma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How is the nut width on these Tokais? Skinny little nuts for girly men
> with puny fingers, or what?

So...girly men have skinny little nuts?

Do tell!
--
"It is no excuse for presumptuous ignorance, that it is directed by insolent
passion."
Edmund Burke.

drthoma...@gmail.com

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Apr 30, 2010, 6:52:07 PM4/30/10
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On Apr 30, 4:29 pm, "steve" <st...@steve.com> wrote:

> On 30-Apr-2010, "tombr...@jhu.edu" <drthomasfbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How is the nut width on these Tokais? Skinny little nuts for girly men
> > with puny fingers, or what?
>
> So...girly men have skinny little nuts?

It's a big problem I have with Asian guitars -- those puny 1 5/8 inch
nuts.

Ken Rose

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Apr 30, 2010, 9:52:06 PM4/30/10
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I think you might mean the FA-235. Here's a link:

http://www.real-standard.com/stock/tokai/fa235vs_091897/fa235vs_091897.html

I have one in a natural finish, and it easily beats any Gibson I have
ever played except for one or two from 1960-1962. No new Gibson I've
seen even comes close.

Ken

On Apr 30, 7:11 pm, blackcat <blackc...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> Just received notification that Tokai in the UK (http://www.tokai-guitars.co.uk/index.ph

sheetsofsound

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Apr 30, 2010, 10:03:38 PM4/30/10
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On Apr 30, 6:52 pm, "tombr...@jhu.edu" <drthomasfbr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

SRV played a guitar with .013s and the skinny 1 5/8 nut. He had huge
hands.

Paul Mitchell Brown

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Apr 30, 2010, 10:11:24 PM4/30/10
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>
> I have one in a natural finish, and it easily beats any Gibson I have
> ever played except for one or two from 1960-1962.  No new Gibson I've
> seen even comes close.
>

A student of mine in the late '80s had a Tokai Strat that was so good
it lead to me selling my American Standard. It was sometime before I
found a Strat that could match his Tokai for build quality and sound
(a custom shop LH '62). My good friend, luthier Teen Goh owns a Tokai
335 and a Tele from the same period that are both excellent guitars -
nitro finish, immaculate construction.

JNugent

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Apr 30, 2010, 10:31:31 PM4/30/10
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blackcat wrote:
> On Apr 30, 1:11 pm, blackcat <blackc...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>> Just received notification that Tokai in the UK (http://www.tokai-guitars..co.uk/index.ph

>> ) are doing a 'high quality' version of the ES-175 in their Japanese
>> ( not Korean/Chinese ) range. One piece neck by all accounts, p/us are
>> Gotoh. Previous version from them was Korean. Anyone here got one or
>> tried one?
>>
>> Blackcat
>
> Oops! Link extension not complete, should read: http://www.tokai-guitars.co..uk/index.php?

> Either way, go to site and click on 'Premium' range an note that
> ( bizaarly ) the 335 replica ( for that is what Tokais tend to be
> rather than mere copies ) is designated 'ES-175' and the ES-175 a-like
> is listed as UFA 180!

That's ridiculous - unless the street price is a lot lower than list, the 335
copy is as dear as a Gibson.

Ken Rose

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Apr 30, 2010, 10:31:40 PM4/30/10
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> How is the nut width on these Tokais? Skinny little nuts for girly men
> with puny fingers, or what?

My Tokai ES-175 copy has a 1 11/16" nut, but that was part of a
limited run they did last year, not a usual production model for
them. They also make ridiculously good ES-335 copies, but they do
have the smaller nut. I have had someone in Japan ask Tokai to make
me one with an 1 11/16" nut, but they said no.

Ken

drthoma...@gmail.com

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May 1, 2010, 12:28:16 PM5/1/10
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On Apr 30, 9:03 pm, sheetsofsound <jackzuc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> SRV played a guitar with .013s and the skinny 1 5/8 nut. He had huge
> hands.

It's a stylistic thing for me though. I play fingerstyle, and when the
strings are too close together it creates an unnecessary technical
challenge.

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