Scofield,Stern
Clyde Loewen
Hand Jive
Grace Under Pressure
I don't much like the pre-BN Scofield stuff myself but lots on this NG seem
to.
Stern - haven't found anything I like
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> Hi,
>
> Can someone list the very best (in your opinion)
> Also which albums with Miles Davis are the best with these guys?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
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Adam Gottschalk
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> Scofield - Any of the Blue Note albums - (especially those with Joe Lovano)
> Hand Jive
> Grace Under Pressure
>
> I don't much like the pre-BN Scofield stuff myself but lots on this NG seem
> to.
>
>
> Stern - haven't found anything I like
I agree on all counts. Other albums:
[I like Meant to Be best as far as Sco/Lovano goes, but What We DO is very
cool too]
Scofield/J.Henderson: So Near So Far (Music of Miles)
Scofield/Metheny: I can see your house from here
Adam
Thomas F Brown
<hans...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
>Can someone list the very best (in your opinion)
>Also which albums with Miles Davis are the best with these guys?
Do you like electric fusion Scofield or post-bop jazz Scofield?
For jazz Scofield, look for the quartet albums with Joe Lovano on sax.
"Time On My Hands" is a near-classic IMO. Also check out "Musings
For Miles" under Joe Henderson's name. For fusion Scofield,
I like Blue Matter and Warm Jazz.
Thomas F Brown
I think I may have the title of the Joe Henderson album wrong, but
it's a good one. You know, I've never heard a bad Scofield album.
I'm not an obsessive fan of his or anything; in fact I don't even
listen to guitar albums very much. But in my listening experience
I've learned that Scofield is a remarkably consistent and interesting
musician. You probably can't go wrong with anything he appears on.
Pawel Baranowski
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Scofield - any of those with Lovano, especially What We Do, others: Meant To
Be and Time On My Hands are very good too. It's another one cd's Scofield
with Lovano Quartet, very good, and only one live performance, I know - The
John Scofield Quartet Plays Live - Jazz Door JD 1249.
The very good album with Henderson is: Jon Henderson: So near, so far
(musings for miles) on Verve.
Stern??? - I like only Miles: We Want Miles
PB
> Eric
Dave J.G.
> Can someone list the very best (in your opinion)
> Also which albums with Miles Davis are the best with these guys?
My favorite John Scofield album is probably Out Like a Light with Steve
Swallow and Adam Nussbaum. It's a must-have for jazz guitar enthusiasts.
Blue Matter was my first exposure to John Scofield and one of my favorites.
The early-90's material with Joe Lovano is excellent.
There's not that many Miles Davis albums with John Scofield. Just Star
People, You're Under Arrest, and Decoy. ( if I remember correctly ). Star
People is my favorite.
Sincerely,
Dave
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Dave J.G.
That should probably be 'Still Warm'. A great recording! If you like those,
there's a live album from around the same time which is excellent. The title
eludes me right now though.
Doug Allen
this Tue. The venue is a hip concert club that the players will likely
appreciate. I'll be in the house!
Sco has a second gtr player in his quartet on this tour, Avi Bortnick:
any comments/info on this player?
George4908
many.
I have two Sterns, "Play" and "Between the Lines" and don't especially care for
either of them.
Robby
> Sco has a second gtr player in his quartet on this tour, Avi Bortnick:
> any comments/info on this player?
ensemble parts when I saw Sco several months ago.
sdey...@my-deja.com
> Sco has a second gtr player in his quartet on this tour, Avi Bortnick:
> any comments/info on this player?
I saw John Scofield and the "Bump Band" (Avi Bortnick, Jesse Murphy and
Ben Perowsky) in April. There's a fair amount of overdubbing on Bump,
and Avi covered the rhythm/accompaniment parts live. His sound was good,
and his playing complemented Sco well. . . very tasteful and funky.
For more info on Avi Bortnick, check out his web site:
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
sdey...@my-deja.com
BUMP. Some of Scofield's work with Miles Davis sounds a bit dated to me,
but it's definitely worth checking out if you like his playing/writing.
Scofield and Stern both play on Miles' STAR PEOPLE. . . Also, check out
THE MAN WITH THE HORN (Miles). Stern only plays on the first track, but
it's hot!
Thomas F Brown
Dave J.G. <s...@signa.ture> wrote:
>> I like Blue Matter and Warm Jazz.
>
>there's a live album from around the same time which is excellent. The title
>eludes me right now though.
Yes, I meant Still Warm. I confused it with Loud Jazz, which is
another good Scofield album in the fusiony vein.
Aleksi Manninen
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> Can someone list the very best (in your opinion)
My personal Stern favorites are Time in Place, Upside Downside and Play.
Standards (and Other Songs) is also nice to listen every now and then
(like twice in a year B-)
I like like his sound, timing and sense of harmony, but at times he does
play a bit too many notes...
am
Tom Lippincott
I like lots of Sco's records, but my favorite stuff of his still is his early
trio records with Steve Swallow and Adam Nussbaum; I'm pretty sure there are 3
records, but off the top of my head I can only think of two titles, Bar Talk,
which to my knowledge is out of print, and Shinola, which I've seen on CD
fairly recently. I also really like one called "Flat Out" which no one else
has mentioned. Like many others have already mentioned, I like his Blue Note
stuff w/Joe Lovano, So Near So Far under Joe Henderson's name, some of the
other early stuff like "Rough House" and "Live,"
and for the fusion stuff my favorite is probably Still Warm, though there's a
nice live CD called Pick Hits. I'm not sure how much of this stuff is or isn't
in print.
As for Stern, someone else mentioned "We Want Miles" which is probably also my
favorite recording of his (Miles Davis is the leader). I could be wrong but I
don't think this one's available on CD (maybe in Japan or something). I also
like his first solo album, Upside Downside, and his guest appearance on Harvey
Swartz' Smart Moves. I have my doubts about either of these being currently
available.
Tom Lippincott
Guitarist, Composer, Teacher
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dominique poublan
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> As for Stern, someone else mentioned "We Want Miles" which is probably
also my
> favorite recording of his (Miles Davis is the leader). I could be wrong
but I
> don't think this one's available on CD (maybe in Japan or something).
It's still available in France.
I do love too Mike's solo on FAT TIME (from The Man With The Horn)
I also
> like his first solo album, Upside Downside,
Maybe I'm wrong but I think his first solo album was NESH that was recorded
just after his Miles' experience. The presence of David Sanborn on it is so
main that we could think of a Sanborn's solo album. Great album.
Dominique
Dave J.G.
early
> trio records with Steve Swallow and Adam Nussbaum; I'm pretty sure there
are 3
> records, but off the top of my head I can only think of two titles, Bar
Talk,
> which to my knowledge is out of print, and Shinola, which I've seen on CD
The 3rd would be Out Like a Light. One of my all-time favorites. I don't
think I have Bar Talk though.
Solar with Sco and John Abercrombe is good too.
Sincerely,
Tom Lippincott
>think I have Bar Talk though.
oh yeah, that's it. Thanks.
>
>Solar with Sco and John Abercrombe is good too.
>
forgot about that one; I agree it's a good one. (I think it's on CD as well)
> Sincerely,
>
> Dave
>
>Dave's Guitar and Bass Resource Pages
Tom Lippincott
>also my
>> favorite recording of his (Miles Davis is the leader). I could be wrong
>but I
>> don't think this one's available on CD (maybe in Japan or something).
>
>It's still available in France.
>
>I do love too Mike's solo on FAT TIME (from The Man With The Horn)
>
> I also
>> like his first solo album, Upside Downside,
>
>Maybe I'm wrong but I think his first solo album was NESH that was recorded
>just after his Miles' experience. The presence of David Sanborn on it is so
>main that we could think of a Sanborn's solo album. Great album.
>
>Dominique
yes, I forgot about that one, although as far as I know it's never been
released here in the states (I wasn't aware that it'd been released anywhere,
actually). I've heard that it was recorded when Mike was going through the
worst of his drug addiction period, and he feels like it's an inferior record
for that reason and doesn't want it released ever.
Dave J.G.
those,
> >there's a live album from around the same time which is excellent. The
title
> >eludes me right now though.
>
> Yes, I meant Still Warm. I confused it with Loud Jazz, which is
> another good Scofield album in the fusiony vein.
Yes! I totally forgot about that one.
There's a cool Scofield video called Live 3 Ways. It has a duet with Dr.
John, a trio with Don Pullen and a quartet with Joe Lovano. I forgot who the
other players are. Definitely worth picking up.
Sincerely,
Dave
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Ooglybong
'Bar Talk' and 'Rough House' are pretty much tied for me, the first just so
wonderfully textural between the trio, dry as it might get at times (my
favorite Steve Swallow work ever), and 'Rough House' for the great energy all
over it, esp. with Hal Galper putting out so much heat.
***NOTE: You can get all but one cut from 'Bar Talk' (it's a Swallow tune and
only relatively good compared to his norm, IMO) on a 'nice-priced' CD on Novus
Series '70 label (#3071-2-N) entitled "Who's Who". I don't know if it's still
in print, but it also has all (or nearly all?) of his 'Who's Who' album, just
pre-Bar Talk, along with most of the 'Bar Talk' stuff. GREAT WORK!!
Also BTW: For you 'Bar Talk' fans, there was an older, similar vintage Bill
Goodwin album (he was/is? Phil Woods' drummer) entitled "Solar"—on some smaller
label. Similiar to the texture and space and production of the 'Bar Talk'
album, only substituting Goodwin for Nussbaum on drums, of course. Mostly
covers (Shorter and others as I remember), plus a Sco tune or two.
Hope this helps someone.
Larry Hogan
Doug Allen
>I saw John Scofield and the "Bump Band" (Avi
>Bortnick, Jesse Murphy and Ben Perowsky) in
>April. There's a fair amount of overdubbing on
>Bump, and Avi covered the
>rhythm/accompaniment parts live. His sound
>was good, and his playing complemented Sco
>well. . . very tasteful and funky.
>For more info on Avi Bortnick, check out his
>web site:
>www.avibortnick.com
I heard the same group Tue evening. I concur with the above comments, I
just hope Avi didn't get a hernia carrying all those rhythm gtr parts!
He achieved a remarkable degree of "fill." His tasteful use of several
various effects units enhanced the rhythm section's sound. He's a
precision player with a bag full of rhythm & funk chops. Sco was attuned
to Avi's comping; their interplay was tight. Avi retired from the stage
mid set for a few tunes while Sco played in a trio setting, mostly with
acoustic bass & drums. To the topic of Sco, well, he played great! Just
hearing the cat play in a small, sweaty concert club on the "chitlin'
circuit" was a treat, but he was playing so well and seemed inspired.
The gig was also a reminder for me of Sco's smooth mastery of dissonance
and tension.
Go see 'em, it's good stuff.
Azazel
>
>Can someone list the very best (in your opinion)
Well, I don't know too much about MIke Stern, but I love Scofield. In my
opinion, most of his 80's stuff is the best. "Still Warm" is very dark and
extremely well recorded. His 3 albums (I'm dating myself here using that word)
with Dennis Chambers on drums are the best though. "Blue Matter", "Pick Hits
Live" and "Loud Jazz" respectively. If you go back in time, "Rough House" is
another great one, this was before he joined Miles' band. As for the 90's,
"Grace Under Pressure" is in a tie with his work with Pat Metheny on "I Can see
your House from Here" for my favorite. His latest work, "Bump" in really great
and I've just enjoyed seeing him play with his Bump Band in Jacksonville the
other night. Just some of my favorites, Eric. Check them out.
Keith
Azazel
>musician. You probably can't go wrong with anything he appears on.
Yep, some other good appearances are the couple of tracks he plays on on the
Yellowjackets bassist's solo album (Jimmy Haslip is his name, I think) and all
of John Patitucci's "Now".
Azazel
>with Lovano Quartet, very good, and only one live performance, I know - The
>John Scofield Quartet Plays Live - Jazz Door JD 1249.
Is this cd out of print? I know it exists but I can't find it anywhere!
Keith
Azazel
there's a live album from around the same time which is excellent. The title
eludes me right now though.
It's called Pick Hits Live, a fantastic live album he recorded in Japan.
Keith
Todd McFadden
string album. But I wish he would do a total-straight-ahead-post-bop thing
with just a nice archtop and little or no effects, a small ensemble with
maybe a sax and perhaps vibes along with a drummer and upright bass player.
I agree with you that his work with Chambers (and Grainger) is the best.
Those guys are monsters and will play you under the floor live. I played
with both Grainger and Chambers in my younger days. They are scary
together. Crazy chops.
Todd
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Azazel
and only relatively good compared to his norm, IMO) on a 'nice-priced' CD on
Novus Series '70 label (#3071-2-N) entitled "Who's Who". I don't know if it's
still
in print
It is still in print and it is a great one, cheap price too. You can tell the
difference between the 'Bar Talk' work and the 'Who's Who' songs very easily.
The instrumentation is very different and the later work sounds more like his
Grammavision records. Sco has is guitar through what sounds like a phaser (?)
on the 'Who's Who' tracks.
Thomas F Brown
Todd McFadden <tmcf...@wvu.edu> wrote:
>Love Scofield. Stern I don't really care for. I love Scofields nylon
>string album. But I wish he would do a total-straight-ahead-post-bop thing
>with just a nice archtop and little or no effects, a small ensemble with
>maybe a sax and perhaps vibes along with a drummer and upright bass player.
Those various quartet albums with Joe Henderson and Joe Lovano come
pretty close to that. If you want to hear Sco on archtop with no
effects, just playing standards, look for that Harvie Swartz album
that Sco plays on. It contains two or three tracks in that vein.
nationalbar
him at his high-school talent show, just before he went off to Berklee.
Everyone was blown away.
Bob
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> Love Scofield. Stern I don't really care for. I love Scofields nylon
> string album. But I wish he would do a total-straight-ahead-post-bop
thing
> with just a nice archtop and little or no effects, a small ensemble with
> maybe a sax and perhaps vibes along with a drummer and upright bass
player.
>
> I agree with you that his work with Chambers (and Grainger) is the best.
> Those guys are monsters and will play you under the floor live. I played
> with both Grainger and Chambers in my younger days. They are scary
> together. Crazy chops.
>
> Todd
>
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Unsung96
Probably because of nostalgia, my favorite Scofield performance was watching
him at his high-school talent show, just before he went off to Berklee.
Everyone was blown away.
Bob >>
What tunes did he play?
nationalbar
teachers including the music teacher, played a Blood, Sweat and Tears song,
I think, "Spinning Wheel". John was only about 17, but everyone knew he was
a remarkable talent.
Bob
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Joey Goldstein
nationalbar wrote:
>
> Probably because of nostalgia, my favorite Scofield performance was watching
> him at his high-school talent show, just before he went off to Berklee.
> Everyone was blown away.
>
> Bob
That's interesting. I first heard him playing at Berklee just before he
graduated (circa 1972-73).
How strong a player was he in high school? Was he playing more straight
ahead style jazz? Was he using odd interval choices as much back then?
Was the R&B influence already so strong in his jazz playing? Was he
plasying an ES-175?
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nationalbar
High School talent show, but he may have played a Wes Mongomery tune as
well, hard to remember it all, we had been smoking pot that evening! The
only other thing I remember from the talent show was a guy lip-synching to
some recording that included a huge belch every few bars. We called it the
"Burp Sketch". My older brother knew John at the time and he thinks that
John was also playing some Wes Montgomery tunes in those days. As for the
guitar he played- it was about 30 years ago and I can't remember what I had
for breakfast- I vaguely remember an ES-335 or the Ibanez copy. The Brubeck
kids lived in the same town, but I don't remember if he played with them. I
do remember that John studied with a guitar teacher named Alan Dean, or
something like that, as someone I knew back then was also studying with
Dean. Compared to the other guys playing guitar in school, there was, well,
no comparison, he had the biggest reputation.
Regards,
Bob
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