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LarryV

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Dec 17, 2005, 9:43:14 AM12/17/05
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juru...@aol.com

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Dec 17, 2005, 4:05:05 PM12/17/05
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I've known about this for several years and have seen him on some cable
shows and maybe Bll Maher as a guest expert, but never knew how he
became involved. Don't know much more now - just a knack for it, I
guess.

I remember hearing a recording he produced for Nils Lofgren, I think
where he did some of his trademark harmonics stuff in a different way.
Interesting person, huh. And I know why they called him skunk! he sort
of copped to it in an interview once.

Clif

glen

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Dec 17, 2005, 5:31:13 PM12/17/05
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yeah so I dig his palyin on the early Dan stuff

but then I dig all Dan stuff

doesn't stop me thinking that rockets rain fire and death on human
beings.

he was once a guy with some nice country/blues, jazzy stylings, now
he's a death expert.

saying "post 9,11" is tantamount to invoking Hitler in an argument in
my book.

the blokes obviously a right wing nutcase. Elvis went the same way.

made some good tunes though.....

LarryV

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Dec 17, 2005, 7:45:52 PM12/17/05
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Okay Clif, fess up - why do they call him Skunk? I've heard many
different stories as to how he got the nickname. but none can be
corroborated since he generally won't discuss the origins of the
nickname.

George Prager

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Dec 18, 2005, 2:40:53 PM12/18/05
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> saying "post 9,11" is tantamount to invoking Hitler in an argument in
> my book.

Both can be used in a valid way. The post 9/11 world most certainly differs
from the pre 9/11 world, just as it would be correct to invoke Hitler's name
when describing, say, the crimes of Pol Pot! I don't see a problem here.

G.P.


juru...@aol.com

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Dec 18, 2005, 4:07:40 PM12/18/05
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Okay Clif, fess up - why do they call him Skunk?

apparently he was a studio pooter, like in the middle of a take when
nobody could do anything about it. He didn't come out and say it
directly, but he set up the scenario and said he wasn't like that
anymore. He was still a musician when I read the interview.

Being an expert on war or terrorism or whatever doesn't really make you
a right winger all by itself. It takes an agenda. Anyone of any
political stripe has to take legitimate reasons for a nation to have an
army into account. A lot of us so called left wingers think it's ok to
eat meat and pack heat.

Clif

tomb...@jhu.edu

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Dec 18, 2005, 4:25:23 PM12/18/05
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It seems pretty clear that Skunk has made his way in the defense world
by using his celebrity to impress right-wing politicians. See this
other piece which lays it all out more clearly:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05144/509629.stm

You have to wonder if he could have gotten where he is now in that
world if he wasn't already a rock star.

Paul Kirk

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Dec 18, 2005, 4:58:24 PM12/18/05
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the article mentions that Baxter is a paid "consultant" for defense
contractors and a consultant to Dana Rohrabacher. I think its fair to
conclude that he's a wingnut.

PK

juru...@aol.com

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Dec 18, 2005, 5:10:13 PM12/18/05
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I think its fair to
conclude that he's a wingnut.

Yep. After reading it, looks like you're right.

Winston Castro

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Dec 18, 2005, 6:05:49 PM12/18/05
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On 18 Dec 2005 14:10:13 -0800, "juru...@aol.com" <juru...@aol.com>
wrote:

>I think its fair to
>conclude that he's a wingnut.
>
>Yep. After reading it, looks like you're right.


He never struck me as a Dr. Strangelove / Rand Corporation type.

It's a wonderful cover he has kept all these years, as a hippy
rock/jazz musician, when in reality his expertise lies in the
'chess-game like' theories of global thermo-nuclear war. But I guess
that article has now "outed him."

Perhaps this will be another Plame affair? ;-)


cl...@claymoore.com

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Dec 18, 2005, 9:05:31 PM12/18/05
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Winston Castro wrote:

> He never struck me as a Dr. Strangelove / Rand Corporation type.
>
> It's a wonderful cover he has kept all these years, as a hippy
> rock/jazz musician, when in reality his expertise lies in the
> 'chess-game like' theories of global thermo-nuclear war. But I guess
> that article has now "outed him."

Hi Winston,

He was "outed" years and years ago, I think in Guitar Player magazine.

You know, it's kind of funny in a way, a guy who was an integral part
of a band called the "Doobie Brothers" being a right-winger, but I've
known several pot head/right-wingers in my day. I was in a band with
one of these guys a few years ago, and he was forever trying to bait me
into political discussions. One time he told me he thought William
Bennett would make a good president. "You mean the drug czar?" I asked
incredulously. He ended up getting us fired from a two week long gig
for lighting up near some cops, even after I warned him they were
downwind.

Clay Moore
http://www.claymoore.com

juru...@aol.com

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Dec 18, 2005, 9:50:48 PM12/18/05
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You know, it's kind of funny in a way, a guy who was an integral part
of a band called the "Doobie Brothers" being a right-winger, but I've
known several pot head/right-wingers in my day. I was in a band with
one of these guys a few years ago, and he was forever trying to bait me

into political discussions. One time he told me he thought William
Bennett would make a good president. "You mean the drug czar?" I asked
incredulously. He ended up getting us fired from a two week long gig
for lighting up near some cops, even after I warned him they were
downwind.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Clay, I think you isolated a truism of conservatism. you have to hold
double standards or you can't be in the game.

Rush is a poster child for this.

Regrettably, this creates damage in the person who does it, as you can
see.

In order to avoid inner conflict, they have to develop high degrees of
dissociation, and reality will inevitably come back and bite them in
the ass, just like in your anecdote.

I think there is a very very high incidence of clinically diagnosable
dissociative disorders in our country, and I'm afraid the pressures
that created them are getting much worse.

It's a sick thought, but the party that controls the borderline
personality disorder vote probably controls government.

It's really beginning to look that way, and it looks to me like we're
all increasingly resembling characters on the Seinfeld show.

NeoConstazaism, anyone? Just remember, if you really really believe
it, it's NOT a lie!

yuck.

Clif

Winston Castro

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Dec 18, 2005, 10:08:06 PM12/18/05
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On 18 Dec 2005 18:05:31 -0800, "cl...@claymoore.com"
<cl...@claymoore.com> wrote:

>
>You know, it's kind of funny in a way, a guy who was an integral part
>of a band called the "Doobie Brothers" being a right-winger, but I've
>known several pot head/right-wingers in my day. I was in a band with
>one of these guys a few years ago, and he was forever trying to bait me
>into political discussions. One time he told me he thought William
>Bennett would make a good president. "You mean the drug czar?" I asked
>incredulously. He ended up getting us fired from a two week long gig
>for lighting up near some cops, even after I warned him they were
>downwind.
>
>Clay Moore
>http://www.claymoore.com


Good to see you still around Clay, I really have not posted here in
well over two years, but I still remember you. Hope things are going
well for you.

Does Jimmy Bruno still make any visits to the group? He was a fairly
active member about 3 years ago when I used to post here more often.

I think I still get invites to Doug Proper gigs, after all
these years. Although they go to my junk mail folder which I rarely
check . ;-)


Al

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Dec 19, 2005, 8:55:14 AM12/19/05
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> Clay, I think you isolated a truism of conservatism. you have to hold
> double standards or you can't be in the game.

As in philosophically advocating smaller government and states rights at the
same time you attack Oregon's right-to-die law. Hey, I got a million of
'em...

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