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Tim Sprout
Oct 29, 2012, 1:43:14 PM10/29/12
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My 1970's silverface Fender Twin Reverb amp powers up (tubes glow
orange) but I get no sound or hum through any of the channels. It
happened suddenly, the amp sitting in my studio. One day it worked, the
next day it didn't.
Should I replace all the preamp tubes? What do I avoid touching so I
don't get zapped?
The local amp tech has left town. I hope to fix it myself, to avoid
driving 350 miles.
-Tim Sprout
orange) but I get no sound or hum through any of the channels. It
happened suddenly, the amp sitting in my studio. One day it worked, the
next day it didn't.
Should I replace all the preamp tubes? What do I avoid touching so I
don't get zapped?
The local amp tech has left town. I hope to fix it myself, to avoid
driving 350 miles.
-Tim Sprout
thomas
Oct 29, 2012, 1:45:16 PM10/29/12
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rpjazzguitar
Oct 29, 2012, 3:38:28 PM10/29/12
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If there is absolutely no sound, I'd check the connection to the speaker first.
Wiggle them and see what happens. Next thing that occurs to me is to flick the standby switch a few times (with the amp off, so you don't damage anything).
If it isn't that, wait for somebody who knows something about amps to reply.
Wiggle them and see what happens. Next thing that occurs to me is to flick the standby switch a few times (with the amp off, so you don't damage anything).
If it isn't that, wait for somebody who knows something about amps to reply.
ott...@hotmail.com
Oct 29, 2012, 3:42:28 PM10/29/12
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Definitely check the speaker Out cable and connections, especially if you get not even a Hum or hiss when you turn it on.
Lord Valve would be the man to ask tho!
Bg
Lord Valve would be the man to ask tho!
Bg
thomas
Oct 29, 2012, 5:08:51 PM10/29/12
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On Monday, October 29, 2012 3:42:28 PM UTC-4, ott...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Definitely check the speaker Out cable and connections, especially if you get not even a Hum or hiss when you turn it on.
>
That's the best-case scenario here -- a bad speaker connection. A blown output transformer is the worst-case scenario.
> Definitely check the speaker Out cable and connections, especially if you get not even a Hum or hiss when you turn it on.
>
> Lord Valve would be the man to ask tho!
Lord Valve
Oct 30, 2012, 9:14:10 AM10/30/12
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It's usually something pretty obvious when a Twin isn't
making any sound at all. First - are you *sure* that
there's *nothing*? Not even a little bit of hum when you
take the amp off standby? Does it make a soft "thump"
or other noise when you flick the standby switch to the
"play" position? If so, you're probably looking at a pre tube
failure, so pull all of the tube shields (the metal can-looking
thingies that start at the right-hand side of the amp, looking
from the rear) and eyeball the tubes. If you see one that has
white flaky-looking stuff inside the glass at the top, rather
than the silver or black-looking stuff the rest of them have,
that's your boy. The silver/black stuff is a compound which
absorbs oxygen, with an eye towards keeping the vacuum
inside the bottle as hard as possible. When a tube cracks,
this compound (called the "getter") turns white in a matter
of minutes. This means the tube is full of air, and it won't
work at all that way. If you find one that looks this way,
replace it. Next - are they all lit? Be aware that some
preamp tubes can show very little or even NO glow due
to the fact that the filament wires may not be sticking
out of either (or both) end(s) of the cathode sleeves; if you
see a preamp tube that appears not to be lit, grab it and
see if it's hot. If it is, it's probably working (if it hasn't
turned white). Just for shits and grins, remove and re-seat
all of the pre tubes. ONE AT A TIME, please, so they stay
in the correct order. And this is a good time to check to
make sure the tube types are in the designated positions
according to the tube chart - you should have 12AX7/7025s
in positions 1, 2, 4, and 5 (counting right to left) and 12AT7s
in positions 3 and 6.
Next up, check the speaker connections. First thing
to do here is to unplug the speaker wire from the
main output jack (keep the amp on standby) and run
a cable - any sort will do for this test, doesn't have
to be a "speaker" wire - from the speaker output jack
to another speaker box of some kind - PA, guitar,
home stereo, etc. - to see if you get sound when
you take the amp off standby. If you do, you can be
sure that you have an open or short circuit in the amp's
speaker wiring, and it will be in the plug or the twisted
wires that go down to the speakers. (If there was an
open in the wires that go from one speaker to the
other, you'd still get sound from one speaker; a short
here will also knock the output dead, but it's not likely
at all.)
Other things that can kill the amp's sound:
Bad preamp tube - you could have a failed
tube in position 2, 4, or 6 (counting from the
right, facing the amp from the rear); it's perfectly
possible (in fact, it's common) for a tube to light
up and still not pass any signal, so "glow" is not
a definitive test here.
Bad standby switch. Not likely, but not unheard of.
A wire has come loose from the eyelet board
or one of the pots.
A component has failed somewhere.
Transformer failure is *not* likely...but not impossible, either
Most of the time when a power transformer fails, it'll blow
fuses. (Not always.) If an output transformer fails, it depends
on the failure mode whether or not the fuse will blow, but it
won't blow until you take the amp off standby in any event.
A shorted secondary is the most common failure in output
transformers; you can usually still hear something, though,
if you have the amp cranked up. The output will be very
low, and heavily distorted.
Bad guitar cord. (Don't laugh...I get one or two a month
from people who didn't try another one before they decided
their amp needed to see the doctor.)
Nothing you can touch without taking the chassis out of the
wood is going to zap you. Only the #3 preamp tube gets hot
enough to make you say OUCH if you grab it too hard. The
power tubes will get *very* hot with the standby switch on;
if they don't (takes about 5 minutes) that's a pretty good
indication that you have no plate or screen voltage for
whatever reason. Tech time.
If you have further questions, give me a buzz: 303-778-1156
Lord Valve
Tim Sprout
Oct 31, 2012, 2:14:17 AM10/31/12
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With the volume knobs turned up to ten I do hear non-distorted sound on
both channels, just not very loud.
I ran the amp speaker output to a PA speaker, same symptom.
All tubes glow orange. No white flaky stuff. I reseated the six preamp
and four power tubes.
I'm thinking I'll try replacing the preamp tubes. If that doesn't work
I'll start networking around town. Somebody around here should be able
troubleshoot and replace capacitors and resisters, or whatever.
Thanks all for the helpful replies.
-Tim Sprout
rpjazzguitar
Oct 31, 2012, 2:39:20 AM10/31/12
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With the amp turned off, I'd suggest rotating the knobs back and forth a few times and flicking the switches as well. Then turn it on and see if it's any different.
Also, make sure that there's no setting on the front panel which changes anything.
Also, wiggle the part of the guitar cable that plugs into the amp. The issue is whether there is a problem with the jack.
I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but these tests are free and quick. I'm thinking that the things that often develop problems are the ones that are subject to mechanical forces. Jacks and pots come quickly to mind.
Also, make sure that there's no setting on the front panel which changes anything.
Also, wiggle the part of the guitar cable that plugs into the amp. The issue is whether there is a problem with the jack.
I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but these tests are free and quick. I'm thinking that the things that often develop problems are the ones that are subject to mechanical forces. Jacks and pots come quickly to mind.
Lord Valve
Oct 31, 2012, 8:52:12 AM10/31/12
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There are only two preamp tubes that would cause what you
describe: #4 and #6. #4 is a 12AX7; remove #1 and stick it
into the #4 hole, testing the result by playing through the VIBRATO
channel. No sound? Put the #1 and #4 tubes back where they
were and pull the #3 tube; replace the #6 tube with the one you
just pulled, testing the result by playing through the VIBRATO
channel. If you have sound, you've found the dud. (Note that
with this test, the reverb will stop working. The #3 tube, a 12AT7,
is the reverb driver.)
LV
TD
Oct 31, 2012, 9:33:12 AM10/31/12
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Tim Sprout
Nov 1, 2012, 2:09:43 AM11/1/12
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with the #6 tube. Thanks a million! Great having my tone back. And great
learning about my amp.
These amps must be tough. I've had it 30 years. It lived in the back of
my pick up truck for 10 of those years, survived hitting all those
potholes and driving on gravel roads. It's often been in -30 F
temperatures. In winter I'd let the amp warm up to room temperature
before turning it on. It's been dragged to countless gigs and rehearsal
spaces. Nothing has ever gone wrong with it, until now. It's been
retired to my studio. My old back can't take carrying it anymore.
-Tim Sprout
Tim Sprout
Nov 1, 2012, 2:11:30 AM11/1/12
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-Tim Sprout
ic
Nov 1, 2012, 6:17:33 PM11/1/12
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"TD" <tonyde...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eacf00f1-c68c-48b7...@googlegroups.com...
> Priceless infromation. Thanks.
One thing not mentioned so far, FX loops. Sometimes the switched sockets
stay open circuit when unplugged, check by connecting a patch cord (or spare
guitar lead) between send and return.
--
icarusi
news:eacf00f1-c68c-48b7...@googlegroups.com...
> Priceless infromation. Thanks.
One thing not mentioned so far, FX loops. Sometimes the switched sockets
stay open circuit when unplugged, check by connecting a patch cord (or spare
guitar lead) between send and return.
--
icarusi
Lord Valve
Nov 1, 2012, 6:58:23 PM11/1/12
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At this point, someone should mention that 70's Twin
Reverbs don't have effects loops.
LV
Mark Kleinhaut
Nov 2, 2012, 7:52:08 AM11/2/12
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now just vote for Obama and you can "ok"after all.
Mark Kleinhaut
Nov 2, 2012, 3:04:31 PM11/2/12
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you're baited soooooooo easily, now I have no doubt you're a closet liberal voting For O.
Lord Valve
Nov 2, 2012, 3:08:21 PM11/2/12
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Mark Kleinhaut wrote:
> you're baited soooooooo easily, now I have no doubt you're a closet liberal voting For O.
...
> you're baited soooooooo easily, now I have no doubt you're a closet liberal voting For O.
And I have no doubt the space between your ears is
packed solid with shit.
ic
Nov 2, 2012, 7:11:48 PM11/2/12
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"Lord Valve" <detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:5092FE8E...@ix.netcom.com...
For general info, and amps which do have FX loops, see above and bear in
mind for future 'no sound' situations.
--
icarusi
news:5092FE8E...@ix.netcom.com...
mind for future 'no sound' situations.
--
icarusi
Mark Kleinhaut
Nov 3, 2012, 8:23:38 AM11/3/12
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I was just trying to have some fun with you, but you always miss the bridge. thanks anyway for the amp info and the momentary glimpse of you being capable of social interaction. next.......
Lord Valve
Nov 3, 2012, 8:51:07 AM11/3/12
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Mark Kleinhaut wrote:
> I was just trying to have some fun with you, but you always miss the bridge. thanks anyway for the amp info and the momentary glimpse of you being capable of social interaction. next.......
Your idea of fun sucks monkey ass.
> I was just trying to have some fun with you, but you always miss the bridge. thanks anyway for the amp info and the momentary glimpse of you being capable of social interaction. next.......
And who told you I wish to "socially interact" with a
clueless leftoid like you? Go light another candle
in front of the Velvet O'Butthole portrait in your
commie shrine, wanker. You got three more days
to worship, and then you'll be looking at the world
from inside the dumpster of History.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Life in the People's Republic of Obamastan's fuckin' grand,
ain't it?
Change *is* coming. Hope you assholes can take it. If not,
enjoy the camps. 270 million people were murdered by leftists
in the last century. Think they're finished yet?
Think YOU are immune?
Got guns? BUY AMMO!
Lord Valve
American - so far
Mark Kleinhaut
Nov 3, 2012, 11:18:25 AM11/3/12
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I don't believe I ever proclaimed political leanings one way or the other on this group site, though if being against racist foul mouthed bullies makes me lefty, then so be it.
Joey Goldstein
Nov 4, 2012, 10:15:32 AM11/4/12
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On 11/4/12 9:36 AM, Lord Valve wrote:
>
> You also used the word "bait." That makes you
> a troll, does it not? Most folks would think so.
Most folks think *you're* an idiot.
--
Joey Goldstein
<http://www.joeygoldstein.com>
<http://home.primus.ca/~joegold/AudioClips/audio.htm>
>
> You also used the word "bait." That makes you
> a troll, does it not? Most folks would think so.
Most folks think *you're* an idiot.
--
Joey Goldstein
<http://www.joeygoldstein.com>
<http://home.primus.ca/~joegold/AudioClips/audio.htm>
thomas
Nov 4, 2012, 10:27:29 AM11/4/12
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On Sunday, November 4, 2012 9:36:51 AM UTC-5, Lord Valve wrote:
>
> Astute observers
> will note that I've never said anything negative about
> Justice Clarence Thomas, Condoleezza Rice,
> Allen West, Thomas Sowell, or for that matter,
> John Coltrane, Wes Montgomery, etc.
>
> So put your lame-ass labels where the sun don't
> shine, junior - you have no idea what they mean.
How on earth ( http://tinyurl.com/9fbmcqe ) did anyone ever get the idea you might be a racist?
>
> Astute observers
> will note that I've never said anything negative about
> Justice Clarence Thomas, Condoleezza Rice,
> Allen West, Thomas Sowell, or for that matter,
> John Coltrane, Wes Montgomery, etc.
>
> So put your lame-ass labels where the sun don't
> shine, junior - you have no idea what they mean.
How on earth ( http://tinyurl.com/9fbmcqe ) did anyone ever get the idea you might be a racist?
Gerry
Nov 4, 2012, 1:44:33 PM11/4/12
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On 2012-11-04 15:15:32 +0000, Joey Goldstein said:
> On 11/4/12 9:36 AM, Lord Valve wrote:
>>
>> You also used the word "bait." That makes you
>> a troll, does it not? Most folks would think so.
>
> Most folks think *you're* an idiot.
I don't think using one magic word or another word inherently makes one
> On 11/4/12 9:36 AM, Lord Valve wrote:
>>
>> You also used the word "bait." That makes you
>> a troll, does it not? Most folks would think so.
>
> Most folks think *you're* an idiot.
a troll.
Being a pugnacious and aggresively injecting fascist politics into all
issues; generally trying to stir up hostilities--that's pretty much
what a troll is. We only have two or three regular trolls at rmmgj.
Joey can't be mistaken for one of those.
--
Music is the best means we have of digesting time. -- W. H. Auden
thomas
Nov 4, 2012, 3:57:04 PM11/4/12
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On Sunday, November 4, 2012 3:33:53 PM UTC-5, Lord Valve wrote:
>
> I'll bet you don't. Tell me - if I had been posting about George Bush
>
> (or, say, Ted Nugent) and I had entitled the post, "FUCK THAT CRACKER!"
>
> would you be OK with that? Is it better if one uses "nigga?" If so, why?
>
The use of such deliberately provocative racial-ethnic ad hominem in political debates indicates a grossly inarticulate and poorly socialized individual. Because dehumanizing language is a precursor to assassination and genocide, it's especially concerning when poorly socialized individuals deploy these words in a political context. I now invoke Godwin's Law, and put you on ignore until after the election.
>
> I'll bet you don't. Tell me - if I had been posting about George Bush
>
> (or, say, Ted Nugent) and I had entitled the post, "FUCK THAT CRACKER!"
>
> would you be OK with that? Is it better if one uses "nigga?" If so, why?
>
The use of such deliberately provocative racial-ethnic ad hominem in political debates indicates a grossly inarticulate and poorly socialized individual. Because dehumanizing language is a precursor to assassination and genocide, it's especially concerning when poorly socialized individuals deploy these words in a political context. I now invoke Godwin's Law, and put you on ignore until after the election.
rpjazzguitar
Nov 7, 2012, 1:03:27 AM11/7/12
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>
> recovering from the epic ass-whoopin' you're
>
> gonna get on Tuesday. Allow me to be the first
>
> here to congratulate President-Elect Mitt Romney.
>
> recovering from the epic ass-whoopin' you're
>
> gonna get on Tuesday. Allow me to be the first
>
> here to congratulate President-Elect Mitt Romney.
>
RS
Nov 7, 2012, 7:30:50 AM11/7/12
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He was on a.g.amps during the primaries, predicting a victory for
Herman Cain ("...remember you heard it here first"). The crystal ball
must be a bit murky.
Valve's posts on aga, calling Obama a "nigger" are not the worst of
it. He and a couple ignorant sycophants have posted about shooting
people. That has included several people on the group, and even thinly
veiled threats about Obama. Given his history, I hardly expected
anyone here to post encouragement. You really want him setting up
camp in rmmgj?
thomas
Nov 7, 2012, 7:35:12 AM11/7/12
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thomas
Nov 7, 2012, 10:11:52 AM11/7/12
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On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 7:35:12 AM UTC-5, thomas wrote:
>
> I for one welcome our new Kenyan-Indonesian Muslim Communist overlords. Let the destruction of our country proceed!>
Polish your jackboots, government thugs. The rounding up of guns begins tonight.
>
> I for one welcome our new Kenyan-Indonesian Muslim Communist overlords. Let the destruction of our country proceed!>
Gerry
Nov 7, 2012, 11:19:55 AM11/7/12
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RS
Nov 7, 2012, 11:12:54 PM11/7/12
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that Obama was going to enforce mandatory circumcision, citing
documentation from some government health study. It was a short
logical step (well, for Valve anyway) to conclude that this would turn
into a door to door nad inspection. Kind of like a census for
genitals.
Perhaps Obama's Circumcision Squad could hang the harvested foreskins
in the town square as a lesson to all.
Lord Valve
Nov 8, 2012, 8:04:05 AM11/8/12
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Lord Valve
Nov 8, 2012, 8:04:53 AM11/8/12
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RS wrote:
> That has included several people on the group, and even thinly
> veiled threats about Obama.
You are a liar.
> That has included several people on the group, and even thinly
> veiled threats about Obama.
RS
Nov 8, 2012, 7:12:12 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 06:04:05 -0700, Lord Valve
<detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>RS wrote:
>
>> One of Valve's best paranoid rants on alt.guitar.amps: He insisted
>> that Obama was going to enforce mandatory circumcision, citing
>> documentation from some government health study. It was a short
>> logical step (well, for Valve anyway) to conclude that this would turn
>> into a door to door nad inspection. Kind of like a census for
>> genitals.
>>
>> Perhaps Obama's Circumcision Squad could hang the harvested foreskins
>> in the town square as a lesson to all.
>
>You are a liar.
>
Here you go:
From:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/alt.guitar.amps/Iw3abW8w6TU
> "Lord Valve" wrote:
> That's right, leftards...your New Messiah's healthcare freaks
> want to make sure that every male baby born in the People's
> Republic of Obamastan gets part of his dick chopped off!
> And if you're packing an intact pecker, you can pretty well
> count on having it customized by Barack's Pud Squad if
> the baby "regulation" (hilarious!) is enacted.
> I can't make shit like this up, folks.
(ahem)
Yours or not? It continues into the normal paranoid rant about buying
guns and ammo, of course.
You may recall that I recommended that you wear a turtleneck when the
foreskin police come knockin'. :-)
<detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>RS wrote:
>
>> One of Valve's best paranoid rants on alt.guitar.amps: He insisted
>> that Obama was going to enforce mandatory circumcision, citing
>> documentation from some government health study. It was a short
>> logical step (well, for Valve anyway) to conclude that this would turn
>> into a door to door nad inspection. Kind of like a census for
>> genitals.
>>
>> Perhaps Obama's Circumcision Squad could hang the harvested foreskins
>> in the town square as a lesson to all.
>
>You are a liar.
>
From:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/alt.guitar.amps/Iw3abW8w6TU
> "Lord Valve" wrote:
> That's right, leftards...your New Messiah's healthcare freaks
> want to make sure that every male baby born in the People's
> Republic of Obamastan gets part of his dick chopped off!
> And if you're packing an intact pecker, you can pretty well
> count on having it customized by Barack's Pud Squad if
> the baby "regulation" (hilarious!) is enacted.
> I can't make shit like this up, folks.
(ahem)
Yours or not? It continues into the normal paranoid rant about buying
guns and ammo, of course.
You may recall that I recommended that you wear a turtleneck when the
foreskin police come knockin'. :-)
thomas
Nov 8, 2012, 7:27:10 PM11/8/12
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RS
Nov 8, 2012, 10:03:25 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:27:10 -0800 (PST), thomas
<drthoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> RS wrote:
>> > "Lord Valve" wrote:
>>
>> > That's right, leftards...your New Messiah's healthcare freaks
>> > want to make sure that every male baby born in the People's
>> > Republic of Obamastan gets part of his dick chopped off!
>> > And if you're packing an intact pecker, you can pretty well
>> > count on having it customized by Barack's Pud Squad
>>
comes true does not slow down the stream of paranoic BS.
Obama continues to eat babies and make secret deals with the Taliban.
Stealing precious bodily fluids, etc. etc.
>Meanwhile, there are valid reasons to dissent, and
> valid critiques of Obama, but they get drowned out by the insanity.
That's another stark difference between the two parties. I'm an avowed
lefty, but when one of my right-leaning friends connects with a
legitimate criticism of Obama (it can happen!), I'll concede the
point. By contrast, the lunatic right seems to require marching in
lock-step. So Chris Christie gets demonized for asking for help for
his people and acknowledging Obama's response.
The mind-synchronization thing really goes off the rails when you
consider the Pud Squad lunacy above. Many don't seem understand how
crazy that looks to us outsiders. Valve apparently thought that a.g.a.
would revolt against Obama en masse due to the new foreskin harvesting
policies. He seemed surprised at the laughter.
<drthoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> RS wrote:
>> > "Lord Valve" wrote:
>>
>> > That's right, leftards...your New Messiah's healthcare freaks
>> > want to make sure that every male baby born in the People's
>> > Republic of Obamastan gets part of his dick chopped off!
>> > And if you're packing an intact pecker, you can pretty well
>> > count on having it customized by Barack's Pud Squad
>>
>> > I can't make shit like this up, folks.
>
>> (ahem)
>>
>
>> (ahem)
>>
>> It continues into the normal paranoid rant about buying
>> guns and ammo, of course.
>> guns and ammo, of course.
> Apparently someone can indeed "make shit like this up", and convince
> the simple-minded to repeat it on the internet. It would be funny,
> except that there are millions of true believer nutcases who
> uncritically accept anything they hear on tv or radio that confirms
> their prejudices.
It seems willfullly fear-driven. The fact that none of the stuff ever
> the simple-minded to repeat it on the internet. It would be funny,
> except that there are millions of true believer nutcases who
> uncritically accept anything they hear on tv or radio that confirms
> their prejudices.
comes true does not slow down the stream of paranoic BS.
Obama continues to eat babies and make secret deals with the Taliban.
Stealing precious bodily fluids, etc. etc.
>Meanwhile, there are valid reasons to dissent, and
> valid critiques of Obama, but they get drowned out by the insanity.
lefty, but when one of my right-leaning friends connects with a
legitimate criticism of Obama (it can happen!), I'll concede the
point. By contrast, the lunatic right seems to require marching in
lock-step. So Chris Christie gets demonized for asking for help for
his people and acknowledging Obama's response.
The mind-synchronization thing really goes off the rails when you
consider the Pud Squad lunacy above. Many don't seem understand how
crazy that looks to us outsiders. Valve apparently thought that a.g.a.
would revolt against Obama en masse due to the new foreskin harvesting
policies. He seemed surprised at the laughter.
RS
Nov 8, 2012, 10:26:52 PM11/8/12
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Valve has also ranted about preemptively nuking the middle east
(WTF!?), shooting government officials who try to enforce the
'reparation tax' (yeah, another weird figment), And of course the
"2nd Amendment" solution to Obama. The amps group gets a constant
stream of this.
But as seems inevitable, he finally threatened the wrong person on
a.g.a., and this time they didn't shrug it off. They offered to visit
Valve on his home turf, rent a boxing ring, and let him make good on
what he had been posting. Even listed gyms in the area and asked Valve
to choose. Result as expected. It wasn't exactly a graceful,
face-saving retreat. :-) Usenet is a trip sometimes!
Lord Valve
Nov 8, 2012, 10:48:47 PM11/8/12
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<http://www.examiner.com/article/circumcision-to-become-mandatory-the-united-states>
And on that link, links to the CDC and the New York Slimes,
discussing exactly that. And nothing about buying guns or
ammo. (I did mention that there was an ammo shortage,
which was entirely accurate at the time.
As usual, you motherfuckers lie like fish swim.
What a surprise, eh?
Piss off, wankers.
RS
Nov 8, 2012, 11:18:54 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 20:48:47 -0700, Lord Valve
<detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>thomas wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:12:13 PM UTC-5, RS wrote:
>> > Yours or not? It continues into the normal paranoid rant about buying
That would be "yes" then..
<detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>thomas wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:12:13 PM UTC-5, RS wrote:
>> > Yours or not? It continues into the normal paranoid rant about buying
>> > guns and ammo, of course.
>
>Gosh, I wonder how this link got "accidentally" left out:
>
><http://www.examiner.com/article/circumcision-to-become-mandatory-the-united-states>
entertainment value.
>And on that link, links to the CDC and the New York Slimes,
>discussing exactly that.
You see, a CDC medical study somehow morphed into a jackbooted
"Obama Pud Squad" and other paranoic embellishments of the Limbecile
network. Hence the laughter.
I'm actuallly curious about this though... Why post this stuff about
guns,overthrowing the government, and other nonsense, if you're just
going to deny it later? Just suppress the urge and save the trouble.
Your weird "Obama stole my penis" material is appreciated though.
Bumpersticker idea: "Obama, you can have my foreskin when you pry it
from my cold dead fingers!" Courtesy of the NFA.
Gerry
Nov 9, 2012, 12:17:50 AM11/9/12
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On 2012-11-09 03:03:25 +0000, RS quoted:
>> ...healthcare freaks want to make sure that every male baby born in the
>> [the USA] gets part of his dick chopped off! And if you're packing an
noise he heard on the radio.
It must be a very frightening world down there in the valve's bunker
with his guns.
>> ...healthcare freaks want to make sure that every male baby born in the
>> [the USA] gets part of his dick chopped off! And if you're packing an
>> intact pecker, you can pretty well count on having it customized by
>> Barack's Pud Squad
>>
>> I can't make shit like this up, folks.
He just made this shit up, folks. Or it was a blithe recitation of the
>> Barack's Pud Squad
>>
>> I can't make shit like this up, folks.
noise he heard on the radio.
It must be a very frightening world down there in the valve's bunker
with his guns.
RS
Nov 9, 2012, 2:51:28 AM11/9/12
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 21:17:50 -0800, Gerry <add...@domain.com> wrote:
>On 2012-11-09 03:03:25 +0000, RS quoted:
>
>>> ...healthcare freaks want to make sure that every male baby born in the
>>> [the USA] gets part of his dick chopped off! And if you're packing an
>>> intact pecker, you can pretty well count on having it customized by
>>> Barack's Pud Squad
>>>
>>> I can't make shit like this up, folks.
>
>He just made this shit up, folks. Or it was a blithe recitation of the
>noise he heard on the radio.
>
>It must be a very frightening world down there in the valve's bunker
>with his guns.
Valvie has recently suppressed his usual sig, which warned about Obama
>On 2012-11-09 03:03:25 +0000, RS quoted:
>
>>> ...healthcare freaks want to make sure that every male baby born in the
>>> [the USA] gets part of his dick chopped off! And if you're packing an
>>> intact pecker, you can pretty well count on having it customized by
>>> Barack's Pud Squad
>>>
>>> I can't make shit like this up, folks.
>
>He just made this shit up, folks. Or it was a blithe recitation of the
>noise he heard on the radio.
>
>It must be a very frightening world down there in the valve's bunker
>with his guns.
and 'leftists' rounding people up for death camps or some such, and
urging "Guns and ammo" before it's too late, blah blah. Yeah, he's
intensely fear-driven. Those on this group have only seen the tip of
the iceberg.
Most on alt.guitar.amps (his usual hang for the past 15 years) just
make fun of his hysteria, but there are some there who are concerned
about his mental health, and the possibility that he could venture out
of the bunker and do something really crazy. The election has not
turned out as he predicted and he's gone kinda quiet-like. I tend to
believe that he's just a blowhard though. :-)
Not to distract from his hilarious "Obama is after my foreskin!", but:
There was an actual CDC study on HIV transmission that brought to
light significant statistics on circumcision as a preventive factor,
especially for female to male transmission. But the CDC did not
finalize any conclusive action, much less mandate circumcision for all
males. That's just silly.
The study was pure research, not a political process. Obama was never
involved, and the word 'circumcision' does not appear in any
Whitehouse transcript. But Rush Limbaugh decided that Obama was after
everyone's foreskin, so it became fact. And therefore part of the Loud
Valve paranoia-thon.
The thing that Rush missed was that the CDC study was initiated in
2007, under the previous president. So regrettably, the bumpersticker
will have to be revised to: "Bush, you can have my penis when you pry
it out of my cold fingers." Oh well. :-)
Jonathan
Nov 9, 2012, 7:04:07 AM11/9/12
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Life is too short to get worked up over all this stuff.
Other than social policy that doesn't really affect you (unless you're gay or need an abortion), the only real difference between the parties is tax policy, and there's way more to life than a few more dollars in your pocket.
There are a hell of a lot of liberals that are executives in huge corporations, which should be a pretty good indicator that we are nowhere near dismantling the capitalist system.
You have a gift for music and electronics, and both of those things transcend politics. Your knowledge in those two areas is valued here. What's the point in being divisive? It's not good for anyone.
Joey Goldstein
Nov 9, 2012, 10:30:15 AM11/9/12
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It feels smooth afterwards.
lukejazz
Nov 9, 2012, 10:35:36 AM11/9/12
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There is a very interesting, entertaining, and easy to read book that I've just finished reading called "The Psychopath Test: A Journey Through The Madness Industry" by Jon Ronson. In the later chapters he has some interesting accounts of internet groups that instigate conspiracy theories and so forth.
He tells a story of a lady that was a victim of a subway bombing. This woman began blogging about the experience as a sort of therapy, while a conspiracy theory group began a campaign to convince everyone that the bombing didn't even really happen.
Ultimately she confronted her accusers in person hoping to resolve issues and it only made things worse. From there they transformed the theory to say she didn't actually exist...and then they started attacking the author (Ronson) for getting involved with her.
All very interesting - you're better off reading the book than reading my account of course. That's just one element of the book.
Luke
He tells a story of a lady that was a victim of a subway bombing. This woman began blogging about the experience as a sort of therapy, while a conspiracy theory group began a campaign to convince everyone that the bombing didn't even really happen.
Ultimately she confronted her accusers in person hoping to resolve issues and it only made things worse. From there they transformed the theory to say she didn't actually exist...and then they started attacking the author (Ronson) for getting involved with her.
All very interesting - you're better off reading the book than reading my account of course. That's just one element of the book.
Luke
TD
Nov 9, 2012, 12:22:18 PM11/9/12
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gtrpla...@yahoo.com
May 29, 2013, 9:39:35 AM5/29/13
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On Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:48:48 PM UTC-5, Lord Valve wrote:
erikvon...@gmail.com
Aug 29, 2015, 6:59:48 PM8/29/15
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> LMAO...I was searching for some info to an issue I'm having ,and came across this thread. Lord Valve..you just made my day. I think I pissed my pants a little. THANK YOU !!!
Me too, and I found Lord Valve's info on my Twin issue invaluable and fixed my problem. The rest of it was like driving past a semi wreck on the highway, you don't want to look, but you can't avert your eyes.
For what it's worth, President Johnson (HA!) got my foreskin as I was born in a military hospital and it was SOP to circumcise male children in the day. Of course, some might say that such policies were an AMA attempt to make everyone look Jewish should the Third Reich or any such similar anti-Semitic movement rise again. I'll be laughing for the rest of the day.
Lord Valve
Nov 2, 2012, 9:42:40 AM11/2/12
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Mark Kleinhaut wrote:
> now just vote for Obama and you can "ok"after all.
What - me?
Vote for that fuckin' slimy little communist prick and
his lobster-gobblin' wookie wife? There ain't enough
money in this solar system to pay me off for that
one. But I'll tell you what - I'd suggest you poor
leftist assholes lay in a large supply of your chosen
intoxicants, because you're going to need the
temporary oblivion they will provide while you're
of complete utopian idiocy to undo - remember,
there *is* a reason your ancestors left Yurp and other
loser locales. Back from the brink - and let that be
a lesson to us!
The Elephant is in da House. Bitchin'!
<http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/522856_10151112435567596_2044489516_n.jpg>
> now just vote for Obama and you can "ok"after all.
What - me?
Vote for that fuckin' slimy little communist prick and
his lobster-gobblin' wookie wife? There ain't enough
money in this solar system to pay me off for that
one. But I'll tell you what - I'd suggest you poor
leftist assholes lay in a large supply of your chosen
intoxicants, because you're going to need the
temporary oblivion they will provide while you're
recovering from the epic ass-whoopin' you're
gonna get on Tuesday. Allow me to be the first
here to congratulate President-Elect Mitt Romney.
Let's get to work, Americans! We have four years
gonna get on Tuesday. Allow me to be the first
here to congratulate President-Elect Mitt Romney.
of complete utopian idiocy to undo - remember,
there *is* a reason your ancestors left Yurp and other
loser locales. Back from the brink - and let that be
a lesson to us!
The Elephant is in da House. Bitchin'!
<http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/522856_10151112435567596_2044489516_n.jpg>
Lord Valve
Nov 4, 2012, 9:36:49 AM11/4/12
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Mark Kleinhaut wrote:
> I don't believe I ever proclaimed political leanings one way or the other on this group site,
YOU took this thread political, not me.
You also used the word "bait." That makes you
a troll, does it not? Most folks would think so.
Everyone can see which way you lean, son.
Fool yourself if you'd like; you're of little
consequence in any event.
> though if being against racist
"Racist" is a word which no longer has any impact.
Leftists (like you) have completely used it up - it packs
no more meaning than other generic insults like
"asshole" or "fucktard" or "shithead." In the leftist lexicon,
anyone who says anything even slightly negative about
any other person who is "non-white" (whatever the fuck
that means; leftards keep much closer track of shit like
that than real people do...) is labeled a "racist." Other
reasons the title is awarded: being against food stamps
(never mind that more "white" people get them than
"black"), racial set-asides, preferrential treatment
for "minorities" in college admissions, affirmative
action and a myriad of other leftist con games. The
fact that I've heaped derision upon your half-white
Messiah is certainloy grounds for the award, based
upon the aforementioned criteria. Astute observers
will note that I've never said anything negative about
Justice Clarence Thomas, Condoleezza Rice,
Allen West, Thomas Sowell, or for that matter,
John Coltrane, Wes Montgomery, etc.
So put your lame-ass labels where the sun don't
shine, junior - you have no idea what they mean.
> foul mouthed
Did I mention you should go fuck your sister?
> bullies
Killfile busted? Twitchy mouse finger? OCD?
> makes me lefty, then so be it.
Indeed.
You made *yourself* a leftist fucktard - my actions had nothing
to do with it. Two days until you start singing the blues. Badly,
I might add; after all - everybody knows whitey can't sing the
blues, right?
Lord Valve
Republican "racist" bad guy
Founder, HARM (Heavily Armed Rightwing Maniacs
Charter Member, Vast Rightwing Conspiracy
et cetera
> I don't believe I ever proclaimed political leanings one way or the other on this group site,
YOU took this thread political, not me.
You also used the word "bait." That makes you
a troll, does it not? Most folks would think so.
Fool yourself if you'd like; you're of little
consequence in any event.
> though if being against racist
"Racist" is a word which no longer has any impact.
Leftists (like you) have completely used it up - it packs
no more meaning than other generic insults like
"asshole" or "fucktard" or "shithead." In the leftist lexicon,
anyone who says anything even slightly negative about
any other person who is "non-white" (whatever the fuck
that means; leftards keep much closer track of shit like
that than real people do...) is labeled a "racist." Other
reasons the title is awarded: being against food stamps
(never mind that more "white" people get them than
"black"), racial set-asides, preferrential treatment
for "minorities" in college admissions, affirmative
action and a myriad of other leftist con games. The
fact that I've heaped derision upon your half-white
Messiah is certainloy grounds for the award, based
upon the aforementioned criteria. Astute observers
will note that I've never said anything negative about
Justice Clarence Thomas, Condoleezza Rice,
Allen West, Thomas Sowell, or for that matter,
John Coltrane, Wes Montgomery, etc.
So put your lame-ass labels where the sun don't
shine, junior - you have no idea what they mean.
> foul mouthed
Did I mention you should go fuck your sister?
> bullies
Killfile busted? Twitchy mouse finger? OCD?
> makes me lefty, then so be it.
Indeed.
You made *yourself* a leftist fucktard - my actions had nothing
to do with it. Two days until you start singing the blues. Badly,
I might add; after all - everybody knows whitey can't sing the
blues, right?
Lord Valve
Republican "racist" bad guy
Founder, HARM (Heavily Armed Rightwing Maniacs
Charter Member, Vast Rightwing Conspiracy
et cetera
Lord Valve
Nov 4, 2012, 3:25:38 PM11/4/12
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thomas wrote:
> On Sunday, November 4, 2012 9:36:51 AM UTC-5, Lord Valve wrote:
> >
> > Astute observers
> > will note that I've never said anything negative about
> > Justice Clarence Thomas, Condoleezza Rice,
> > Allen West, Thomas Sowell, or for that matter,
> > John Coltrane, Wes Montgomery, etc.
> >
> > So put your lame-ass labels where the sun don't
> > shine, junior - you have no idea what they mean.
>
> How on earth ( http://tinyurl.com/9fbmcqe ) did anyone ever get the idea you might be a racist?
Do you know the difference between a nigger and a black person?
I'll bet you don't. Tell me - if I had been posting about George Bush
(or, say, Ted Nugent) and I had entitled the post, "FUCK THAT CRACKER!"
would you be OK with that? Is it better if one uses "nigga?" If so, why?
If not, why not? Do you support sequestration of certain words and phrases
for use by persons of a particular skin color only? If so, why?
This'll be good. Three to five you chicken right out.
Lord Valve
Chink
> On Sunday, November 4, 2012 9:36:51 AM UTC-5, Lord Valve wrote:
> >
> > Astute observers
> > will note that I've never said anything negative about
> > Justice Clarence Thomas, Condoleezza Rice,
> > Allen West, Thomas Sowell, or for that matter,
> > John Coltrane, Wes Montgomery, etc.
> >
> > So put your lame-ass labels where the sun don't
> > shine, junior - you have no idea what they mean.
>
Do you know the difference between a nigger and a black person?
I'll bet you don't. Tell me - if I had been posting about George Bush
(or, say, Ted Nugent) and I had entitled the post, "FUCK THAT CRACKER!"
would you be OK with that? Is it better if one uses "nigga?" If so, why?
for use by persons of a particular skin color only? If so, why?
This'll be good. Three to five you chicken right out.
Lord Valve
Chink
Lord Valve
Nov 4, 2012, 4:18:36 PM11/4/12
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thomas wrote:
> On Sunday, November 4, 2012 3:33:53 PM UTC-5, Lord Valve wrote:
> >
> > I'll bet you don't. Tell me - if I had been posting about George Bush
> >
> > (or, say, Ted Nugent) and I had entitled the post, "FUCK THAT CRACKER!"
> >
> > would you be OK with that? Is it better if one uses "nigga?" If so, why?
> >
>
> The use of such deliberately provocative racial-ethnic ad hominem in political debates indicates a grossly inarticulate and poorly socialized individual.
Psychobabble.
Did you have to use pliers to yank that out
of your ass, or did it slide right on out like
most of the other ridicuolus shit you post?
> Because dehumanizing language is a precursor to assassination and genocide, it's especially concerning when poorly socialized individuals deploy these words in a political context.
...
Have you been watching Michael Moore
and reading the Daily Kos again? I could
see where you'd be concerned.
> I now invoke Godwin's Law, and put you on ignore until after the election.
Three to five. Can I call 'em?
Godwin? Someone mentioned Hitler? Or did you just
dream that I did it...say, have you been into the pharm
cabinet again?
Well...one thing you can *always* count on is that
chickenshit libtards will cut and run, spewing jargon
and catch-phrases as they go. I'm certainly going to
enjoy rubbing your nose(s) in the coming Romney
landslide. I figure it'll take you (all) at least twelve
years (minimum) to quit whining, given your past
record vis a vis George W. Bush. Of course, that
estimate may well be on the light side...seein' as
how both you and the ridiculous myth you elected
to run the USA are still whining about him, with no
end in sight...
Y'all have a miserable fuckin' life now, y'heah?
Lord Valve
Chank
> On Sunday, November 4, 2012 3:33:53 PM UTC-5, Lord Valve wrote:
> >
> > I'll bet you don't. Tell me - if I had been posting about George Bush
> >
> > (or, say, Ted Nugent) and I had entitled the post, "FUCK THAT CRACKER!"
> >
> > would you be OK with that? Is it better if one uses "nigga?" If so, why?
> >
>
Psychobabble.
Did you have to use pliers to yank that out
of your ass, or did it slide right on out like
most of the other ridicuolus shit you post?
> Because dehumanizing language is a precursor to assassination and genocide, it's especially concerning when poorly socialized individuals deploy these words in a political context.
...
Have you been watching Michael Moore
and reading the Daily Kos again? I could
see where you'd be concerned.
> I now invoke Godwin's Law, and put you on ignore until after the election.
Three to five. Can I call 'em?
Godwin? Someone mentioned Hitler? Or did you just
dream that I did it...say, have you been into the pharm
cabinet again?
Well...one thing you can *always* count on is that
chickenshit libtards will cut and run, spewing jargon
and catch-phrases as they go. I'm certainly going to
enjoy rubbing your nose(s) in the coming Romney
landslide. I figure it'll take you (all) at least twelve
years (minimum) to quit whining, given your past
record vis a vis George W. Bush. Of course, that
estimate may well be on the light side...seein' as
how both you and the ridiculous myth you elected
to run the USA are still whining about him, with no
end in sight...
Y'all have a miserable fuckin' life now, y'heah?
Lord Valve
Chank
singwit...@gmail.com
Oct 29, 2017, 9:00:08 AM10/29/17
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Lord Valve,
I have a similar problem as Tim did so many years ago. My issue is with a 2004 Fender Twin Amp. Not the red knob "Evil Twin." Mine has idiot lights and when it went silent the LED idiot lights indicated that there was "TROUBLE" with all 4 large tubes. I replaced them, set the bias and the balance and still no sound. I re-seated all the pre-amp tubes as well. Nothing.
I read your post explaining how to pull a non-essential tube and swap it with others but that was for a different amp. Wondering if this technique (and tube numbers) would apply with my Twin Amp.
Here's some pix that may help...
block diagram of innards:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bxg11HvsR9SxU0oxMUxldXBBMHM
back of amp. Large tubes are new Bugeras. Note the green LED idiot lights that are lit.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bxg11HvsR9SxczBhU2lGcC12UEU
I have a similar problem as Tim did so many years ago. My issue is with a 2004 Fender Twin Amp. Not the red knob "Evil Twin." Mine has idiot lights and when it went silent the LED idiot lights indicated that there was "TROUBLE" with all 4 large tubes. I replaced them, set the bias and the balance and still no sound. I re-seated all the pre-amp tubes as well. Nothing.
I read your post explaining how to pull a non-essential tube and swap it with others but that was for a different amp. Wondering if this technique (and tube numbers) would apply with my Twin Amp.
Here's some pix that may help...
block diagram of innards:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bxg11HvsR9SxU0oxMUxldXBBMHM
back of amp. Large tubes are new Bugeras. Note the green LED idiot lights that are lit.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bxg11HvsR9SxczBhU2lGcC12UEU
Ron Frank
Oct 29, 2017, 9:17:04 AM10/29/17
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BTW, I don't have a vibrato channel on this amp.
Lord Valve
Oct 29, 2017, 11:44:48 AM10/29/17
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indicators usually have a shitload of solid-state parts
inside. Problem is, sometimes it's the monitoring circuits
which fail, giving a false indication as to the condition
of the parts they were designed to report on. It's pretty
damn rare for four power tubes to fail at the same time.
A loss of bias voltage would probably cause both trouble
LEDs to light, even though the power tubes were fine. I
don't have any experience on that particular amp, nor can
I find a schematic. (I'm sure there's one somewhere on the
net; I just cant find it and I'm a bit pressed for time.)
You can certainly sub all of the 12AX7s - one at a time -
with a known good one. I can't tell you which tubes are
"non-essential" without a schematic, so the best way to
go about it is to borrow a 12AX7 from another amp and use
it to sub for the ones in your amp, one at a time. If this
doesn't bring the signal back, you'll need to seek the services
of a competent repair tech.
BTW - fuck O'Butthole, fuck Killary, and fuck all the
Trump-haters. You lost. Shut up.
Lord Valve, ThD
Expert (fuck you)
Ron Frank
Oct 29, 2017, 12:03:05 PM10/29/17
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Removed the aluminum covers from all 8 preamp tubes and noticed that the # 5 tube (a 12AX7) was frosty and not glowing. Pulled it out and replaced it with the 12AX7 that was in the #3 slot. Amp works - not as powerful as it was but it works. Time to order a 12AX7.
The LED idiot lights declaring problems with the big tubes are still on. But maybe b/c there is a tube missing. See if that clears up when I replace the missing 12AX7 in slot #3. No gigs til Dec 9 so I have time to get this going.
The LED idiot lights declaring problems with the big tubes are still on. But maybe b/c there is a tube missing. See if that clears up when I replace the missing 12AX7 in slot #3. No gigs til Dec 9 so I have time to get this going.
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