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Pt

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Sep 3, 2003, 10:32:31 AM9/3/03
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There has been talk about getting old.
Too old to learn.
Too old to play.
Too old to....?

I just had a birthday and it scares the hell out of me when I think of
how old I am.
But it is just a number.
A rather big number at that.

I started playing guitar in the 50's and I could copy a song after
hearing it just a couple times but I had no idea what I was playing,
what key, what chords, what scales etc.

In the 60's I played in a jazz trio, a country band, a rock band and a
psychedelic band.
I took lessons from a well known jazzer.

In the 70's I hit a couple fusion bands and continued with my music
education.

The 80's had me raising kids, working long hours and doing occasional
recording gigs.
I sat in with a few bands but I did not have much room in my life for
gigs.
But I did play my guitar every day at home and I continued to study
music.

In the 90's I got a jam group together and jammed every week.
I learned more from this than I did in all the other years of playing
combined.
By the mid 90's I was back on stage and enjoying every minute of it.

2000 and beyond has had me gigging often, playing concerts, jamming
with jazz groups, rock groups, blues groups...you name it.
This has been the best time I have had playing in my life.
I play better than ever before, faster and I am more confident.

So as far as getting older is concerned I am just getting better and
enjoying it more.
At least I like to think that way.

I am still learning and I have learned much from people in this group.

In my personal life I have slowed down some but I am still quite
functional in all respects.

To those of you who think that you're too old to learn or to play or
to be in a band of any genre think twice.
If you are physically and mentally healthy just remember....

It ain't over till it's over!

Pt

Joe Finn

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Sep 3, 2003, 11:15:13 AM9/3/03
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"Pt" <pea...@yahoo.com> wrote

> To those of you who think that you're too old to learn or to play or
> to be in a band of any genre think twice.
> If you are physically and mentally healthy just remember....
>
> It ain't over till it's over!

I couldn't agree more. You are only over the hill if you think you're over
the hill. In the meantime it's full speed ahead baby. .........joe

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JP

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Sep 3, 2003, 12:04:55 PM9/3/03
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That sounds like a great journey Pt.
Its a great love, and the passion never dies...
In a few sentences you covered 50 years of playing.
Thats a lot of experience.

Congrats

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Omcha

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Sep 3, 2003, 12:18:08 PM9/3/03
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Is this the thread entitled "Jazz For Seniors"? If so - park my walker and sign
me up!
Jess

Rick Ross

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Sep 3, 2003, 12:30:54 PM9/3/03
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I need a nap after that post

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thom_j.

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Well first we must determine whether you're a laminated or carved
type walker player?....... t.j.


Charlie Robinson

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Sep 3, 2003, 5:38:51 PM9/3/03
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>I need a nap after that post
>

>Rick Ross
-------------------------------------------

It is under the hill that worries me.

Charlie Robinson Jazz Guitarist, Composer
You can hear me online at: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/robinsonchazz
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Max Leggett

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Sep 3, 2003, 5:38:41 PM9/3/03
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On 03 Sep 2003 21:38:51 GMT, robins...@aol.comremove (Charlie
Robinson) wrote:

>>I need a nap after that post
>>
>
>>Rick Ross
>-------------------------------------------
>
>It is under the hill that worries me.

I've been told that I play like death warmed over. Does that count?

mark

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Sep 3, 2003, 10:57:49 PM9/3/03
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Great post PT.

My birthday is coming up in a few days, and I'm gettin up there myself (32).
: )

I hope someday, relatively soon, within the next 5 to 10 years, I'll be good
enough to get a band together and start playing some gigs, even for fun. The
player that originally got me start wanting to play jazz is an older fellow
that I found, by accident, on mp3.com by the name of Bob Irwin. He had a
rendition of Autumn Leaves on there that, although really simple in terms of
the melody lines and comping, I heard it and couldn't stop listening to it
for a few weeks. I figured if a song can be made so good with such sparse
playing, perhaps someday I could make music like that. I'm still working on
it.

That gets me to thinking...one of these days I should send that Bob Irwin
guy an email telling *him* this very story, and thanking him for getting me
interested in jazz.

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Bill

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Sep 3, 2003, 11:14:27 PM9/3/03
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On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 22:57:49 -0400, "mark" <mark...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Once again. One more time.

It ain't over till it's over.

you said it, man.

Bill
>

Doug Allen

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Sep 3, 2003, 10:55:47 PM9/3/03
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The old adage states: "You don't stop playing because you get old, you
get old because you stop playing."

Piano player "Eubie" Blake continued playing gigs until he was nearly
100 years of age! He appeared on the Tonight Show in his 90's, played
well during his guest spot. When he sat down to chat with Johnny Carson,
he politely asked if he was allowed to smoke. Johnny enthusiastically
told him, "Of course, 'you' can do anything you want to do here!" Later
in the conversation, Eubie puzzled Johnny with some show biz facts,
Johnny stating several times, "I did not know that." Eubie then paused,
looked at Johnny and asked, "How did you get this job?" Johnny rocked
back in his chair, howling with laughter at the old-timer's audacity.
Eubie was quite sharp for his age; in chops and wit.

======================================
James Hubert "Eubie" Blake (February 7, 1883 - February 12, 1983) was a
composer of ragtime, jazz, and popular music, as well as a lyricist.
With his long time collaborator Noble Sissle, Blake wrote the Broadway
Musical Shuffle Along in 1921; this was the first Broadway musical ever
to be written and directed by African-Americans. Blake's hit
compositions included "Bandana Days" "Charleston Rag", "Love Will Find A
Way", "Memories of You", and "I'm Just Wild About Harry".

In 1978, the musical Eubie opened on Broadway.

Blake continued to play and record until shortly before his 100th
birthday. He uttered the memorable quote, "If I'd known I was going to
live this long, I would have taken better care of myself."

Blake's authorized biography, Eubie Blake, was written by Al Rose.

In 1995 Eubie Blake was honored with a United States Postage stamp.

fl...@comcast.net

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Sep 4, 2003, 2:38:19 PM9/4/03
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On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 22:55:47 -0400 (EDT), imlo...@webtv.net (Doug
Allen) wrote:

>The old adage states: "You don't stop playing because you get old, you
>get old because you stop playing."
>
>Piano player "Eubie" Blake continued playing gigs until he was nearly
>100 years of age! He appeared on the Tonight Show in his 90's, played
>well during his guest spot. When he sat down to chat with Johnny Carson,
>he politely asked if he was allowed to smoke. Johnny enthusiastically
>told him, "Of course, 'you' can do anything you want to do here!" Later
>in the conversation, Eubie puzzled Johnny with some show biz facts,
>Johnny stating several times, "I did not know that." Eubie then paused,
>looked at Johnny and asked, "How did you get this job?" Johnny rocked
>back in his chair, howling with laughter at the old-timer's audacity.
>Eubie was quite sharp for his age; in chops and wit.

I remember seeing him in an interview when he was 100 and he said,
while smoking, "If I had known I was going to live this long, I would


have taken better care of myself"

Frank

http://mp3.com/corps_of_discovery
http://mp3.com/bzb

Rick Ross

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Sep 7, 2003, 10:16:52 AM9/7/03
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count? shit man that sounds like the makings of a multi million dollar world
tour! I know where you can get some incredible fog machines on ebay and you
should play the guitar with the scorpion headstock..

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Charlie Robinson

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Sep 7, 2003, 11:43:29 AM9/7/03
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>I've been told that I play like death warmed over. Does that count?

>Rick Ross

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Yes

Rick Ross

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Sep 7, 2003, 12:22:18 PM9/7/03
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charlie ....
is this one of your famous one note solos? :)

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Charlie Robinson

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Sep 7, 2003, 11:59:11 PM9/7/03
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>charlie ....
>is this one of your famous one note solos? :)

>Rick Ross

MBR

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Sep 8, 2003, 1:14:00 PM9/8/03
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>Eubie puzzled Johnny with some show biz facts,
> Johnny stating several times, "I did not know that."
=====================
Well...just to show you how old and washed up I really am...I kinda miss Johnny.

-Mark

Max Leggett

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Sep 8, 2003, 2:11:11 PM9/8/03
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I met Eubie. Top THAT! :-)

Pt

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Sep 8, 2003, 3:21:19 PM9/8/03
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On 8 Sep 2003 10:14:00 -0700, jazz...@hotmail.com (MBR) wrote:

Is he gone?
I better watch more TV.

Pt

MBR

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Sep 9, 2003, 3:15:52 PM9/9/03
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Pt <pea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<8klplv4r5f2tnsm0h...@4ax.com>...
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Don't bother. Stick with guitar.

MBR

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Sep 9, 2003, 3:24:02 PM9/9/03
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mleg...@nospam.ca (Max Leggett) wrote in message news:<3f5cc620...@News.CIS.DFN.DE>...
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I cannot: Eubie was way cool. I did meet Jim Hall and Pat Metheny.
Both times in the mens room at jazz clubs. (No smart cracks please).
Oh well... go for it if you want.

-Mark

Max Leggett

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Sep 9, 2003, 4:10:41 PM9/9/03
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I think Hall+Metheney=Eubie. Call it a draw.

MBR

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Sep 10, 2003, 10:44:30 AM9/10/03
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mleg...@nospam.ca (Max Leggett) wrote in message news:<3f5e3377...@News.CIS.DFN.DE>...
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When I met Jim I complimented him on his solo on "My One and Only
Love" from his Commitment album, which is now out of print. He thanked
me and then proceeded to explain where the mistakes were and how he
and Tommy Flanagan had messed up on the beginning of a section. This
exchange took place during a break in a duo gig with Bob Brookmeyer.
I was pretty much awestruck by Jim's playing during the first set, and
then he goes off and tells me about the mess-ups he made on that
record. He was a very friendly, down-to-earth kind of guy with no
trace of arrogance or condecension.

Lauri Pekonen

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Sep 20, 2003, 9:32:41 AM9/20/03
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MBR <jazz...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I cannot: Eubie was way cool. I did meet Jim Hall and Pat Metheny.
> Both times in the mens room at jazz clubs. (No smart cracks please).
> Oh well... go for it if you want.

No personal memories come into mind right now, but this is by British/Finnish
"media person" Neil Hardwick (background: Trio Töykeät is a Finnish
jazz piano trio extraordinaire):

---

Confessions of a Töykeät groupie
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I am a Trio Töykeät groupie. And I speak as a man who actually met two of his other idols, Miles Davis and George Harrison (I have catholic tastes). Miles Davis I met at the Pori Jazz Festival in 1987, where I was working as an announcer. I went backstage and said, "I'm the announcer, is there anything special you want me to say?" and he said, "No". At least I think that's what he said, his speaking voice wasn't all that great.


At the 1986 Adelaide Grand Prix I was making a documentary when I saw Clive James, the tv personality, whom I knew at university. I waved wildly at him, knowing he wouldn't be able to hear me shout over the noise of the pits, and knocked a mug of coca-cola out of someone's hand. It was George Harrison. He said, "Fuck" and went off to change his shirt. That's the only time I ever met the Beatles.

<http://www.universalmusic.fi/triotoykeat/main.html>

---

Any experience of your own in meeting your idols in unexpected situations?

Ted Vieira

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Sep 20, 2003, 1:53:28 PM9/20/03
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I met Herb Ellis when I was around 17 or 18 in Anchorage, AK. He was playing
in a small tavern with sawdust floors. The drinks were served in Kerr jars.
Great evening!

Ted Vieira


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S7343

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Sep 24, 2003, 7:01:24 PM9/24/03
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I met Joe Pass at Blues Alley in Washington DC. January 1977. He played solo
and sat down at a table beside me and I got to talk to him and get his
autograph.

Steve

thomas

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Sep 25, 2003, 4:59:14 PM9/25/03
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Ted Vieira <con...@tedvieira.com> wrote in message news:<BB91E27C.205C2%con...@tedvieira.com>...

> I met Herb Ellis when I was around 17 or 18 in Anchorage, AK. He was playing
> in a small tavern with sawdust floors. The drinks were served in Kerr jars.
> Great evening!


Herb is notorious for being super nice to young guitar players.
I went to one of his gigs once and chatted with him briefly. Then
later in the evening I happened to mention to his wife that I had to
leave early to catch the last bus. She insisted that I stay
until the end and then she and Herb drove me home. Great folks.

Ted Vieira

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Sep 28, 2003, 12:13:50 PM9/28/03
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> Herb is notorious for being super nice to young guitar players.
> I went to one of his gigs once and chatted with him briefly. Then
> later in the evening I happened to mention to his wife that I had to
> leave early to catch the last bus. She insisted that I stay
> until the end and then she and Herb drove me home. Great folks.


Wow, that's very cool.

Ted

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