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GoHabsGo

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Jan 4, 2010, 11:24:17 AM1/4/10
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Hi All. And Happy New Decade!

My wonderful wife surprised me with a bass guitar under
the tree. Now I need to learn how to use it.

Does anyone care to share their favorite online lessons for
bass?

Regards,

Larry

hank alrich

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Jan 4, 2010, 12:46:32 PM1/4/10
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GoHabsGo <spambrea...@hotmail.com> wrote:

What do you seek to play on bass? If you already play guitar one of the
best teachers is a CD player with some good tracks.

The big deal for guitarists looking to cover the bottom is to notice
right off how many notes are to be omitted if one wishes not to sound
like "a guitar player trying to play bass".

--
ha
shut up and play your guitar
http://www.armadillomusicproductions.com/CarryMeHome.html
http://hankalrich.com/

GoHabsGo

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:51:08 PM1/4/10
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walk...@nv.net (hank alrich) wrote in news:1jbsluv.1lwae8i1ouwnwgN%
walk...@nv.net:

> GoHabsGo <spambrea...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All. And Happy New Decade!
>>
>> My wonderful wife surprised me with a bass guitar under
>> the tree. Now I need to learn how to use it.
>>
>> Does anyone care to share their favorite online lessons for
>> bass?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Larry
>
> What do you seek to play on bass? If you already play guitar one of the
> best teachers is a CD player with some good tracks.
>
> The big deal for guitarists looking to cover the bottom is to notice
> right off how many notes are to be omitted if one wishes not to sound
> like "a guitar player trying to play bass".

Just looking to start at the basics, I already know the fret board but
to apply that knowledge and learn about how the bass can harmonize with
chord changes and build good melodic bass lines that will compliment some
songs I am writing. I play a large variety of styles anywhere from jazz,
to reggae to blues to folk and rockabilly. Always trying to learn
something new but not sure where to start with the bass. I think a good
site would explain how to play bass over different chord changes.

Also could use some pointers on technique since finger picking a bass is
quite different than a guitar. I don't really want to fall into any bad
habits up front.

Regards,

Larry

hank alrich

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:46:33 PM1/4/10
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GoHabsGo <spambrea...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> walk...@nv.net (hank alrich) wrote in news:1jbsluv.1lwae8i1ouwnwgN%
> walk...@nv.net:
>
> > GoHabsGo <spambrea...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All. And Happy New Decade!
> >>
> >> My wonderful wife surprised me with a bass guitar under
> >> the tree. Now I need to learn how to use it.
> >>
> >> Does anyone care to share their favorite online lessons for
> >> bass?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Larry
> >
> > What do you seek to play on bass? If you already play guitar one of the
> > best teachers is a CD player with some good tracks.
> >
> > The big deal for guitarists looking to cover the bottom is to notice
> > right off how many notes are to be omitted if one wishes not to sound
> > like "a guitar player trying to play bass".
>
> Just looking to start at the basics, I already know the fret board but
> to apply that knowledge and learn about how the bass can harmonize with
> chord changes and build good melodic bass lines that will compliment some
> songs I am writing. I play a large variety of styles anywhere from jazz,
> to reggae to blues to folk and rockabilly. Always trying to learn
> something new but not sure where to start with the bass. I think a good
> site would explain how to play bass over different chord changes.

http://www.carolkaye.com/

You have heard her work, whether or not you realize it. Great materials
offered from the gitgo to advanced.

http://www.shermusic.com/new/0961470100.shtml

A terrific look at playing bass and changes: THE IMPROVISOR'S BASS
METHOD by Chuck Sher

> Also could use some pointers on technique since finger picking a bass is
> quite different than a guitar. I don't really want to fall into any bad
> habits up front.

Many ways to pick a bass. Carol Kaye and Phil Lesh use flatpicks. Some
players use their thumb. Some use finger(s). Etc. You can find what
works for you.

Position, as always is important. Many bass players stress both wrists,
sometimes right into carpal tunnel trouble, by failing to give adequate,
informed attention to position.

dick thaxter

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:59:16 PM1/4/10
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On Jan 4, 3:46 pm, walki...@nv.net (hank alrich) wrote:
> GoHabsGo <spambreakerNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > walki...@nv.net (hank alrich) wrote in news:1jbsluv.1lwae8i1ouwnwgN%
> > walki...@nv.net:

A big second on the Carol Kaye material. I picked up a bunch of her
inexpensive pamphlets for my son when he played bass with the guitar
jazz band in HS.

Her website also carried Thomatik-Infeld Flats. TI Flats are the
nicest thing you can do for your bass.

dick thaxter

Misifus

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:48:39 PM1/4/10
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What a coincidence! My wife got me a bass for Christmas, too, an
Ashbory. Fortunately (or not) I used to play bass for a living, back in
the day. Now, I'm just waiting for my new Eden bass amp to arrive.

-Raf

--
Misifus-
Rafael Seibert
Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rafiii
home: http://www.rafandsioux.com

Misifus

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:58:13 PM1/4/10
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Misifus wrote:
> GoHabsGo wrote:
>> Hi All. And Happy New Decade!
>>
>> My wonderful wife surprised me with a bass guitar under
>> the tree. Now I need to learn how to use it.
>>
>> Does anyone care to share their favorite online lessons for bass?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Larry
>
>
> What a coincidence! My wife got me a bass for Christmas, too, an
> Ashbory. Fortunately (or not) I used to play bass for a living, back in
> the day. Now, I'm just waiting for my new Eden bass amp to arrive.
>
> -Raf
>


Btw, there is a Usenet newsgroup not unlike this one for bass.

alt.guitar.bass

Bill Chandler

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Jan 4, 2010, 7:10:26 PM1/4/10
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:24:17 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo
<spambrea...@hotmail.com> brewed up the following, and served it
to the group:

Larry--I started learning bass long before there was any such thing as
an online lesson, but I think some of that learning still holds
true--listen to the music you like, concentrating on the bass. Play
along. Always bear in mind that the bass serves a different function
in the band from the guitar--and takes a different technical approach.
Have fun!

Bill Chandler
--------
To solve any problem, here are three questions to ask yourself: First, what could I do? Second, what could I read? And third, who could I ask? - Rohn, Jim

the above e-mail address remains totally fictional.
the real one is bc9424 AT gmailspamTHIS! D0T com (if you remove spamTHIS!)
...please check out my music at http://www.soundclick.com/billchandler some time...

Bill Chandler
...bc...

don hindenach

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:50:56 PM1/4/10
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Meditate upon the vast lessons of the great bass guru Les Izmore

--
-donh-
donh at audiosys dot com

JD

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:14:36 PM1/4/10
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Understand that the best bass player is someone
with the soul of a drummer who isn't tone deaf.
Listen to Tower of Power with Rocco Prestia and
Dave Giribaldi then you'll understand. Also
listen to Leland Sklar, probably the finest studio
bassist in all creation.

Bill Chandler

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:14:32 PM1/4/10
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 18:51:08 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo

<spambrea...@hotmail.com> brewed up the following, and served it
to the group:

>walk...@nv.net (hank alrich) wrote in news:1jbsluv.1lwae8i1ouwnwgN%

Larry--I usually use the first 2 fingers of the right hand, along with
the thumb, for picking. Some folks use a flatpick--I prefer fingers.

Knowing the fretboard is a large battle already won. You want melodic
bass lines? Paul McCartney is a great place to start. Listen to the
stuff he did with the Beatles--great bass work.

You like jazz, I can't recommend Mingus highly enough--also Paul
Chambers, who played with Miles on the "Kind of Blue" sessions. Listen
to everything--attune your ears to what the bass is doing. Think
function--bass is rhythmic as well as harmonic. Lock in with the
drummer. If there is no drummer, the bass has to be even more solid
on time (but flexible, where the music demands).

The worst habit a guitar player can develop upon taking up the bass is
playing bass as though it were a guitar. (I'm getting redundant,
aren't I?) Once again, think function. You gotta anchor the changes.
That doesn't mean root and fifth all the time--but make sure there is
a harmonic base under everything else that's going on.

Also, drinking heavily is a primary responsibility of the bassist.

B-{)}

Shutting up now...

Bill (haven't had a beer in over a month...f***ing prednisone)
Chandler
--------
... City Morgue: You stab 'em, we slab 'em.

Bill Chandler

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:21:45 PM1/4/10
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:14:36 -0800, JD brewed up the following, and

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<snip>

>don hindenach wrote:
>> Meditate upon the vast lessons of the great bass guru Les Izmore
>
>Understand that the best bass player is someone
>with the soul of a drummer who isn't tone deaf.
>Listen to Tower of Power with Rocco Prestia and
>Dave Giribaldi then you'll understand. Also
>listen to Leland Sklar, probably the finest studio
>bassist in all creation.

Amen to those. How could I forget Lee Sklar? The man is all that is
cool in bass players. Always the perfect groove, with the perfect
notes.

Also check out Jorge Calderone, who played on a bunch of albums for
Warren Zevon. Roger Waters of Pink Floyd did some good, solid bass
work too--along with the disturbing voice...
--------
Give yourself something to work toward -- constantly. - Ash, Mary Kay

hank alrich

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Jan 4, 2010, 11:45:14 PM1/4/10
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don hindenach <bounc...@driveway.splort> wrote:

His Name = Thy Mantra

hank alrich

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Jan 4, 2010, 11:45:15 PM1/4/10
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<JD> wrote:

> don hindenach wrote:

Roy Husky Jr.

Mike Brown

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:49:50 AM1/5/10
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Bill Chandler wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:24:17 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo
> <spambrea...@hotmail.com> brewed up the following, and served it
> to the group:
>
>
>>Hi All. And Happy New Decade!
>>
>>My wonderful wife surprised me with a bass guitar under
>>the tree. Now I need to learn how to use it.
>>
>>Does anyone care to share their favorite online lessons for
>>bass?
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Larry
>
>
> Larry--I started learning bass long before there was any such thing as
> an online lesson, but I think some of that learning still holds
> true--listen to the music you like, concentrating on the bass. Play
> along. Always bear in mind that the bass serves a different function
> in the band from the guitar--and takes a different technical approach.
> Have fun!
>
> Bill Chandler
> --------
> To solve any problem, here are three questions to ask yourself: First, what could I do?
> Second, what could I read? And third, who could I ask? - Rohn, Jim
>


Bingo again.

MJRB


>
> Bill Chandler
> ...bc...

Mike Brown

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:58:37 AM1/5/10
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Bill Chandler wrote:

Red Mitchel, Oscar Petiford, Roland Hannah, Don Thompson, Jim Hughart, I
haven't even touched the edges, there are so many great ones to listen to.

MJRB

hank alrich

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Jan 5, 2010, 9:34:46 AM1/5/10
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Bill Chandler <dr...@yourown.risk.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:24:17 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo
> <spambrea...@hotmail.com> brewed up the following, and served it
> to the group:
>
> >Hi All. And Happy New Decade!
> >
> >My wonderful wife surprised me with a bass guitar under
> >the tree. Now I need to learn how to use it.
> >
> >Does anyone care to share their favorite online lessons for
> >bass?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Larry
>
> Larry--I started learning bass long before there was any such thing as
> an online lesson, but I think some of that learning still holds
> true--listen to the music you like, concentrating on the bass. Play
> along. Always bear in mind that the bass serves a different function
> in the band from the guitar--and takes a different technical approach.
> Have fun!

Another great source:

Standing in the Shadows of Motown: The Life and Music of Legendary
Bassist James Jamerson, with 2 CD's, Vol. 3 by Allan Slutsky, Allen
Slutsky, Licks

http://tinyurl.com/yz6chu6


I realize all my suggestions don't add up to "online lessons", but
online access to learning materials.

LA

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Jan 5, 2010, 11:23:09 AM1/5/10
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On Jan 5, 12:58 am, Mike Brown <rocko...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
> Bill Chandler wrote:
> > On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:14:36 -0800, JD brewed up the following, and
> > served it to the group:
>
> > <snip>
>
> >>don hindenach wrote:
>
> >>>Meditate upon the vast lessons of the great bass guru Les Izmore
>
> >>Understand that the best bass player is someone
> >>with the soul of a drummer who isn't tone deaf.
> >>Listen to Tower of Power with Rocco Prestia and
> >>Dave Giribaldi then you'll understand.  Also
> >>listen to Leland Sklar, probably the finest studio
> >>bassist in all creation.
>
> > Amen to those.  How could I forget Lee Sklar?  The man is all that is
> > cool in bass players.  Always the perfect groove, with the perfect
> > notes.
>
> > Also check out Jorge Calderone, who played on a bunch of albums for
> > Warren Zevon.  Roger Waters of Pink Floyd did some good, solid bass
> > work too--along with the disturbing voice...
> > --------
> > Give yourself something to work toward -- constantly. - Ash, Mary Kay
>
> > the above e-mail address remains totally fictional.
> > the real one is bc9424 AT gmailspamTHIS! D0T com (if you remove spamTHIS!)
> > ...please check out my music athttp://www.soundclick.com/billchandlersome time...

>
> > Bill Chandler
> >                    ...bc...
>
> Red Mitchel, Oscar Petiford, Roland Hannah, Don Thompson, Jim Hughart, I
> haven't even touched the edges, there are so many great ones to listen to.
>

Don't forget the wimmin.... Tina Weymouth (Talking Heads)

LA

Sikora Family

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Jan 5, 2010, 11:43:20 AM1/5/10
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One of my faves is John McVie (sp?) from Fleetwod Mac.

Charlie (loved 'em) Sikora :)


--
It's not dating advice, but take out "pam" to reply.

JD

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:42:08 PM1/5/10
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Bill Chandler wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:14:36 -0800, JD brewed up the following, and
> served it to the group:
>
> <snip>
>
>> don hindenach wrote:
>>> Meditate upon the vast lessons of the great bass guru Les Izmore
>> Understand that the best bass player is someone
>> with the soul of a drummer who isn't tone deaf.
>> Listen to Tower of Power with Rocco Prestia and
>> Dave Giribaldi then you'll understand. Also
>> listen to Leland Sklar, probably the finest studio
>> bassist in all creation.
>
> Amen to those. How could I forget Lee Sklar? The man is all that is
> cool in bass players. Always the perfect groove, with the perfect
> notes.
>

Lee Sklar is one of those guys that a non musician
would never be aware of until they heard the same
front band with a different bassist. The man has a
gift. JT screwed up royally when he fired him.

JD

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:45:29 PM1/5/10
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Another of my NSHO's is that until one has
embraced the Zen of fretless (sans inlaid fret
lines, thank you) they don't really "get" bass.
Michael Manring inspired me.

Norman Draper

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On Jan 4, 3:46 pm, walki...@nv.net (hank alrich) wrote:
> GoHabsGo <spambreakerNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > walki...@nv.net (hank alrich) wrote in news:1jbsluv.1lwae8i1ouwnwgN%
> > walki...@nv.net:
> shut up and play your guitarhttp://www.armadillomusicproductions.com/CarryMeHome.htmlhttp://hankalrich.com/- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It would be impossible to have NOT heard Carol Kaye's work, although
this is the first time I've heard her name.....

From "Good Vibrations" the the theme from "Love Boat".... Phil
Spector, Simon and Garfunkle....


Norman (There's My Something New For Today!) Draper


Misifus

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Steve Daniels wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 18:51:08 +0000 (UTC), against all advice,
> something compelled GoHabsGo <spambrea...@hotmail.com>, to
> say:

>
>> I don't really want to fall into any bad
>> habits up front.
>
>
> You're a guitar player. That horse has already fled.
>
>
>


Ah, yes. The common conceit among bassists that if your hands have
touched a guitar prior to picking up a bass for the first time, you are
hopelessly ruined for any serious bass work. That's the sort of thing
we try to avoid stepping in in the pasture.

Steve Daniels

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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 18:51:08 +0000 (UTC), against all advice,
something compelled GoHabsGo <spambrea...@hotmail.com>, to
say:

> I don't really want to fall into any bad
> habits up front.


You're a guitar player. That horse has already fled.

--

Howdya like that... we started playing guitar to impress the chicks and wind
up talkin' fingernails with old men.

Ray Boyce - 9.27.09

Bill Chandler

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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:47:16 -0600, Misifus <rafse...@att.net>

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>Steve Daniels wrote:


>> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 18:51:08 +0000 (UTC), against all advice,
>> something compelled GoHabsGo <spambrea...@hotmail.com>, to
>> say:
>>
>>> I don't really want to fall into any bad
>>> habits up front.
>
>> You're a guitar player. That horse has already fled.
>
>Ah, yes. The common conceit among bassists that if your hands have
>touched a guitar prior to picking up a bass for the first time, you are
>hopelessly ruined for any serious bass work. That's the sort of thing
>we try to avoid stepping in in the pasture.
>
> -Raf

Amen to that, Dad. Boy, I'm glad I wasn't hanging around any
"serious" bassists when I first picked it up. I found that
familiarity with the guitar and some basic understanding of theory
(from the guitar neck) helped me a bunch in learning to play bass. My
beginning situation was learning to play reading charts in the high
school jazz band. With our band director, who was very jazz-oriented.
He was very encouraging and helpful in my fumbling beginnings...

--------
... BITCHENAID - It's like the best mixer, dude.

gregz

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:52:16 AM1/7/10
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Look up a gentleman named Kyle Tullis and his discography.
Unfortunately he passed away a few years ago...awesome bass player!!

Z

gregz

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:54:29 AM1/7/10
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GoHabsGo wrote:
> Hi All. And Happy New Decade!

BTW, who are those guys playing hockey in Hab town this year?? I know
about 3 names...

Greg

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