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tpp

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Oct 2, 2002, 4:08:59 PM10/2/02
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It was mentioned today on NPR that 'The Twilight Zone' first appeared on TV
on this day in 1959. NPR played portions of the theme song and I when heard
once again the guitar part in that piece, I got to wondering who was the
session person who got that gig?

The first name that came to mind is Tommy Tedesco, but I don't know for
sure.

Anyone know?

Tom


Tom Loredo

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Oct 2, 2002, 4:47:51 PM10/2/02
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tpp wrote:
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> The first name that came to mind is Tommy Tedesco, but I don't know for
> sure.

That's what I heard, too. A google search appears to verify it, e.g.:

http://infoplease.kids.lycos.com/ipka/A0766446.html

The same search pointed to the composer, Jerry Goldsmith, who did a lot
of film scores, including the memorable *Star Trek: The Motion Picture*
theme:

http://www.mfiles.co.uk/Composers/Jerry-Goldsmith.htm

Peace,
Tom Loredo

Lumpy

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Oct 2, 2002, 5:21:07 PM10/2/02
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tpp wrote:
> The first name that came to mind is
> Tommy Tedesco, but I don't know for
> sure.
>
> Anyone know?

Prior to Tommy T it was Bob Bain.

lumpy
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Weasel

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Oct 2, 2002, 6:22:14 PM10/2/02
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Howard Roberts.

=Weasel=


John Albert

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Oct 2, 2002, 7:08:34 PM10/2/02
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tpp wrote:
<< It was mentioned today on NPR that 'The Twilight Zone' first appeared on
TV on this day in 1959. NPR played portions of the theme song and I when
heard once again the guitar part in that piece, I got to wondering who was
the session person who got that gig?>>

Is there a good mp3 version of the Twilight Zone theme available anywhere?

- John

tpp

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Oct 3, 2002, 6:05:05 AM10/3/02
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Lumpy,

I did a Google search for Bob Bain, and I came across a reference to
Laurindo Almeida. Although I don't know much about him, I do remember having
an excellent album by the Modern Jazz Quartet with Laurindo Almeida. I
played that thing until the vinyl was no more.

Tom

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tpp

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Oct 3, 2002, 6:11:25 AM10/3/02
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Weasel,

Interesting, because the 'all-knowing' Internet mentions that Tommy Tedesco
did the theme, and it mentions that Howard Roberts did it.

Lumpy, did you do the theme?

Anyway, I like the name of the album "Howard Roberts is a Dirty Guitar
Player."

Tom
(I did not do the Twilight Zone theme)


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Lumpy

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Oct 3, 2002, 9:52:36 AM10/3/02
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tpp wrote:
> ...Internet mentions that Tommy Tedesco

> did the theme, and it mentions
> that Howard Roberts did it.
>
> Lumpy, did you do the theme?

No, I didn't do the theme. But two of
my teachers, Bob Bain and Tony Tedesco did.

Bob Bain (guitar), and Carol Kaye (bass),
and later Tony Tedesco (guitar) virtually
lived in the studios. They wouldn't wait
to be called, they'd just show up every
day and leave their instruments there.

In the 50's and 60's, as Bob explained it to me,
the listening public started to dig hearing guitar(s)
on their jingles and themes, you would find Bob Bain,
Tony Tedesco, Laurinda Almeida, Howard Roberts and
a couple of others wandering back and forth between
studios, playing each other's parts.

I was a teenager, taking lessons from Bob and Tony,
during their breaks at the record studios. My lessons
with Bob, for example, were usually in the afternoon
after the jingle recording stuff ended for the day
and before he left to go to Burbank and sit with the
Tonight Show Orchestra.

Howard Roberts was doing his own (and others)
albums so tended to be not as available for
jingles.

Bob did Peter Gunn, for example, but some of the
parts you'd hear would be Howard Roberts. Tony did
MASH but some of the parts were Bob. One guitarist
would be standing in the hallway on a break and the
MusDirector from across the hall would call for a
guitarist to come in and play a part. Whoever was
standing there might go in and sight read the part.

Bob played on MASH, for example, that lists Tony
as the primary.

It's likely that Howard, Bob and Tony all did Twilight Zone.
It's likely that they all used Bob's guitar.

Instead of each of them keeping several instruments
in the studio, they would use each other's guitars
when they needed that effect. Bob's guitar was a
tele. If he couldn't get the dark tones he'd borrow
a 175 from someone else. If someone else needed some
twang, they'd borrow Bob's tele.

Probably more than you wanted to know.
Just think of how long this would have
been if my memory was better..:-)

lumpy
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John Sorell

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Oct 3, 2002, 10:05:16 AM10/3/02
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Which is better, Tommy Tedesco or Howard Roberts?

John

Doc West

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Oct 3, 2002, 12:38:44 PM10/3/02
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Thanks for the evocative picture, Lumpy.

One of our memories is playing tricks.
Tommy Tedesco was the session guitarist who became widely known after
his stints at Guitar Player magazine and the Fernwood Tonight television
show.
Tony is his son. Tony played organ in my first teenage band.

I'm not sure that Tedesco or Roberts were getting work in '58 or '59
when the Twilight theme was cut.

An apocryphal story I've heard for tears: The Twilight Zone theme
existed as a piece of experimental French music. A tape found it's way
to Serling in time for the early production.
There must be books on this. I'd trust them more than the net.


Lumpy <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote:

> my teachers, Bob Bain and Tony Tedesco did.
>
> Bob Bain (guitar), and Carol Kaye (bass),
> and later Tony Tedesco (guitar) virtually
> lived in the studios. They wouldn't wait
> to be called, they'd just show up every
> day and leave their instruments there.
>
> In the 50's and 60's, as Bob explained it to me,
> the listening public started to dig hearing guitar(s)
> on their jingles and themes, you would find Bob Bain,
> Tony Tedesco, Laurinda Almeida, Howard Roberts and
> a couple of others wandering back and forth between
> studios, playing each other's parts.

(good anecdotes of LA studio practice back in the day snipped
for brevity in quoting. Go read yhe original)

Lumpy

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Oct 3, 2002, 5:01:18 PM10/3/02
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Doc West wrote:
> One of our memories is playing tricks.
> Tommy Tedesco was the session guitarist...
> ...Tony is his son...

I'm sorry, you are correct. I was of course
talking about TOMMY not TONY Tedesco. I think
I had Tony on my mind, thinking about Tony Mottola
(tonight show NY) in comparison to Bob Bain
(Tonight Show LA).

> I'm not sure that Tedesco or Roberts were
> getting work in '58 or '59
> when the Twilight theme was cut.

Bob Bain got Tommy started in LA in the early 50's
when Tommy moved there from NY. Howard Roberts
did his first solo album at Columbia LA in 57
and between his own album projects, played on
many other Columbia artists' albums.

I know that Bob Bain did play on early Twilight
Zone and that Tommy T played on later ones but
I'm not sure when the majority of the change
occurred. I'm not sure at all who played on
the Twilight Zone movies. That may have been
someone altogether different.

Remember Tommy T playing in a pink Tu Tu on
the Gong Show?

Please tell more about Tommy's son, Tony.
Where's he at, what kind of music etc.

tnx for the memory jog

lumpy
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Michael James Richard Brown

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Oct 4, 2002, 8:25:31 AM10/4/02
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Thanks for that info Lump, fascinating stuff.
Michael B

Doc West

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Oct 4, 2002, 9:08:33 PM10/4/02
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Oops!
Tom Tedesco's son is really named something like "Dale".
I've still never eard of Tony...and suspect he is merely a misprint.
Sorry for the disinformation

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