Martin 000-16 SGT
Cliff
first time in years the other night.
I don't remember being overwhelmed by it then, but the sound has
improved, a lot....really impressed, the sound off this guitar is
lovely ; clear, punchy and clean; spruce / mahog. slotted h/stock.
Anyone else own / played one...??
C.
Kevin Hall
"Cliff" <clif...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Although not a fan of some of Martins' low end stuff produced in the last
few years I do like the 12-fret 16 series models. The original long-bodied
12-fret designs are among the very best of the company offerings in my
opinion, and the modestly priced 16 series allows folks who don't want to
spend their kids' education funds on a guitar to enjoy the benefits of that
type of instrument.
Smaller bodies, and the 12-fretters in particular seem to be making a
comeback these days, which is nice to see. For years you could hardly give
'em away as everyone on this side of the Atlantic wanted only dreadnaughts.
Now knowledgeable collectors and ardent fingerpickers have finally nudged
the market back in the direction of smaller, properly proportioned
instruments of greater subtlety rather than sheer volume and overpowering
bass.
Perhaps this is a product of improvements to pickup technology in the last
decade or so. What ever it is, I'm happy to see it.
KH
JD
I played one at Dusty Strings some years ago and
remember being more impressed than I had been by
anything else Martin made for quite a while. I
probably would have bought one if it'd had a cutaway.
David Hajicek
"Kevin Hall" <timbe...@webhart.net> wrote in message
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I looked on the Martin site and I am confused. I thought that the "000"
designation meant 12 fret. Now I see they have 12 and 14 fret 000 size and
use an "S" to identify 12 fret. I then don't understand the difference
between an 000-14 and an OM as the bodies appear identical?
They have a long body 000-12, but aren't really using the 12 fret
configuration to move the bridge toward the tail. Please explain if you
understand what is going on.
Thanks.
Dave
LA
I own one, and it has been my main player for the last ten years. When
I made my purchase they still came with nickel Waverley open tuners
and what they called striped ebony fingerboard. I traded in a Martin
D-15 and $400 in cash for it. Also released at about the same time was
an all mahogany 000-15SGT which some folks liked even better. The 'S'
stands for 'standard' which I guess refers to the time when all
Martins had 12 frets to the body, and slotheads. I've tried to replace
this guitar several times without success. I'm mainly a singer, and
the midrangey uncomplicated sound works very well for me. I would say
it has the classic Martin sound that I hear represented in most of
their smaller mahogany models. My Epiphone Masterbilt AJ-500 is a much
brighter guitar, if you're familiar with those.
Everyone I have ever seen, some worse then others, had bleed around
the sound hole adjacent to the neck from the fingerboard stain. The
earlier pre-micarta ones have appreciated in value some. I believe it
would take 1500USD to get a real clean one these days. I've invested a
lot of time and energy beating mine into submission and I doubt I
would ever sell it now that it answers to my every whim.
LA
Carl
designation for this model way back in 1934 and added to its own confusion.
Up until then, all 000's were 12 frets to the body guitars and they
introduced the OM's (orchestra models) as 14 fret to the body models. In
1934, for some reason, they temporarily dropped the OM designation and used
only 000 but produced them in the standard 12 fret and the "long scale" 14
fret versions. Eventually, the OM was re-introduced, though I don't recall
when offhand.
In general, 000 since then has referred to a body size and, I believe, a
1-11/16" nut width. It can be either a 12 fret to the body model or a 14
fret to the body model.
Again, generally speaking, OM's have the same body size as a 000 but always
a 1-3/4" nut width and always 14 frets to the body.
This is how it is according to my understanding, and I am open to correction
if need be.
Cliff
> David Hajicek wrote:
> >news:872dnde5XsjOXGnQ...@posted.vianet...
>
> >> "Cliff" <cliff...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
Thanks for that Carl.....where'd you pop up from ??...8¬)
C.
Carl
I happen to fancy myself an amateur guitar collector, have a number of
vintage guitars including two true vintage Martins (a '46 000-28 and a '64
D-28), as well as a 1994 Schoenberg-Martin Soloist built by TJ Thompson
(based on a '30's OM), and a newer OM-28 Marquis Madagascar (also based on a
'30's OM). I love Martins, having been brought up to believe they are THE
acoustic guitar.
I am currently considering acquiring a 1930's OM-18 or a Long Scale '34
000-18 to sort of "complete" my collection so I have been studying up on
these nuances recently. Otherwise, I'm not a savant of Martin guitars or any
other... ;-) My wife, however, thinks the "idiot" part of the expression
fits though (nah, not really, she's pretty supportive of this guitar passion
of mine- I just couldn't pass up the line)...
Somewhat off topic, a very recent acquisition of mine, of which I'm rather
proud, is a truly excellent condition 1923 Gibson L3, all-original, complete
even with the original pickguard, a rare thing indeed. I'm enamored just by
its age alone. It's like finding the Red Violin of guitars (if you remember
the movie).
rahul
Top. Maybe not. I love the size and feel of this guitar. It doesn't
have the boom of dreadnoughts and fits comfortably under my arm. It is
a 14-fretted though.
Tom from Texas
I like the 16 series Martins and have an early D-16GT. The thing I
don't like is that the small bodies have the long scale fingerboards
while I prefer the old short scale. TEHO. Do yall have the 000 with
the ancient style headstock or the modern squared headstock?
Tom (The Fund is accepting donations) from Texas