Strings for Larrivee Parlor
A.J.Martin
Can anyone recommend what string gauge makes the most sense for a 'short'
guitar?
I have a Larrivee parlor and my logic says a light gauge set, tuned up a
half step or maybe even a whole step.
Please help.
Thanks,
Andy
Kevan Green
Parlor (mahogany). Best Regards- Kevan
Hojo2x
>Strings for Larrivee Parlor
>Can anyone recommend what string gauge makes the most sense for a 'short'
>guitar?
>I have a Larrivee parlor and my logic says a light gauge set, tuned up a>half
step or maybe even a whole step.
Andy, I've owned three Larrivée parlors, including one of the original mahogany
prototypes, and I've ended up with three different sets of strings on each of
those guitars. So you're going to need to experiment and find out what works
best for you.
The shorter scale on the Larrivée parlor doesn't automatically translate to
loose and floppy strings if a light set is used, and I believe that it's with
light gauge strings that the parlors are shipped from the factory.
Anyway, I found that I got the best tone on my original mahogany back and sides
parlor with John Pearse light gauge strings in 80/20 bronze: mediums seemed to
stifle the treble response without adding any extra volume or bass response,
and that particular guitar just sounded lousy with phosphor bronze.
But the rosewood parlor I got next performed its best with John Pearse light
gauge strings in phosphor bronze, which shows you how individual these things
can be.
The parlor I own now is a Larrivée walnut parlor, which I've got strung with
John Pearse bluegrass gauge strings in phosphor bronze, which are medium gauge
bass strings and light gauge trebles.
So experimentation is just key to the whole process, so far as I'm concerned.
I'm not sure that you'd gain anything by using lights tuned up a half or a full
step, but try it and see how the instrument responds. My own impulse in that
experiment would be to simply try mediums, as the tension is likely to be
similar.
Have fun with it - try a bunch of different strings and see what works for you.
Once you've figured that out, please post here and let us know. It's usually
pretty interesting to learn how folks deal with these issues.
Hope this helps.
Wade Hampton Miller
Chugiak, Alaska
Nigel Tucker
version, and it brought it to life. Really.
Like Wade said, play around and experiment
Nigel
Al Evans
<hoj...@aol.com> wrote:
> ...I've ended up with three different sets of strings on each of
> those guitars.
Well, we only use one set of strings on ours (mahogany). I don't know
how Wade installs the other two sets....:-)
We just put a new set of Newtone Masterclass (.012-.053) on it. Like
Nigel, we use Alan Marshall's brass bridge pins on it, and this is one
guitar on which they REALLY make a big positive difference.
--Al Evans--
Bradley J. Bell
recently bought a Haida Gwaii rosewood parlour.
TIA
Bradley
"Al Evans" <a...@tbtm.org> wrote in message
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Hojo2x
>How or why does using Brass bridepins improve the sound of a palour?
I>recently bought a Haida Gwaii rosewood parlour.
By adding mass to the bridge (in this case, with the weight of the brass pins)
you can typically increase treble response, sustain and volume. However, if
there's an audible change in one direction, you're likely to lose something
else - with brass pins you are most likely to lose some bass response and
(particularly) midrange response.
So you may get a change, but it might not be a change you like.
Then again, it might be precisely what that particular guitar was waiting for
to reach the fullest flower of its potential.
Brass pins are an inexpensive and non-invasive way of experimenting with your
guitar's tone. I've never much cared for the effect, but you might, and since
it's easily reversible, it's worth a try.
Something else I've put on ALL of my parlor guitars has been a John Pearse
armrest, which really opens them up immensely. The armrest lifts your arm off
the top and lets it ring out better.
Al Evans
<hoj...@aol.com> wrote:
> Bradley J. Bell wrote:
>
> >How or why does using Brass bridepins improve the sound of a palour?
> I>recently bought a Haida Gwaii rosewood parlour.
>
> By adding mass to the bridge (in this case, with the weight of the brass pins)
> you can typically increase treble response, sustain and volume. However, if
> there's an audible change in one direction, you're likely to lose something
> else - with brass pins you are most likely to lose some bass response and
> (particularly) midrange response.
In brief, nope. On this Larrivee Parlour, bass is better, treble is
better, and mids are better. It really made a BIG difference.
In general, though, I think Wade is right. It's something to try.
Sometimes it works, most times it doesn't.
> Something else I've put on ALL of my parlor guitars has been a John Pearse
> armrest, which really opens them up immensely. The armrest lifts your arm off
> the top and lets it ring out better.
You know, Wade, that only matters if you rest your arm on the top in
the first place:-)
--Al Evans--
Glen Eric
With regard to the brass bridge pins made by Alan Marshall, can anyone
here provide the name of a US retailer for this product, or must the
pins be ordered directly from Alan in the UK?
I wan't to try out a set for my Martin D-15, as it seems to be a
likely candidate that may benefit from the pins, with increased
clarity and definition in midrange and treble of this all-mahogany
guitar being the main objective.
Thanks for your replies, and any ordering information for Marshall.
Regards,
Glen Eric
Strum4u
Al Evans <a...@tbtm.org> wrote in message news:<270520031610313607%a...@tbtm.org>...
Al Evans
<str...@msn.com> wrote:
> With regard to the brass bridge pins made by Alan Marshall, can anyone
> here provide the name of a US retailer for this product, or must the
> pins be ordered directly from Alan in the UK?
>
> I wan't to try out a set for my Martin D-15, as it seems to be a
> likely candidate that may benefit from the pins, with increased
> clarity and definition in midrange and treble of this all-mahogany
> guitar being the main objective.
>
> Thanks for your replies, and any ordering information for Marshall.
I don't know, offhand, Glen.
Alan visits this newsgroup, and I stuck his name in the header, so
maybe he'll respond.
A few people here in the US have placed orders with Alan in the past
for multiple sets, so maybe someone else has a set they're not using. I
was one of those people, but got rid of all my "spares" a while back.
--Al Evans--
Bob Dorgan
I missed the original inquiry....
As far as I know, Alan is the only source unless as Al Evans pointed out,
there is someone stateside with an extra set kicking around. I bought a good
sized box of them and sold them off to RMMGA members a few years ago, and if
you want to go that route, I'm sure you'll have no problem selling them.
Bob Dorgan
Chris Rockcliffe
> Alan visits this newsgroup, and I stuck his name in the header, so
> maybe he'll respond.
Alan is back from his hols' now. Pete Gay phoned him yesterday from my
place. If he doesn't respond, I'll prompt him about it.
CR
Michael McCollum
"Kingpins". Aside from the fact that John's Kingpins are flat out gorgeous,
they're every bit as good as Alan's IMO.
They're available at Breezyridge.com.
No, I'm not affiliated with Breezy Ridge, but I do like John and his
products as well (nudge nudge, wink wink)
Mike
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Mark Horning
I have a parlor and usually use lights tuned to standard concert. I have tried
mediums but din't like the sound so switched back to lights.
Mark E. Horning, Physicist
Phoenix, Arizona
Alan Marshall
The only place you can buy mine at the moment is direct from myself.
They are 7.50 UK pounds a set plus postage, which to the USA is 1.55
UK pounds for up to 3 sets.
I believe that (allowing for exchange rates) is still quite a bit less
than Johns Kingpins.
I haven't seen his, maybe you should send me a set John! Mine are
standard pattern Gold plated bell brass, nothing fancy, just made to
perform.
If you are interested, drop me an e-mail and I will sort out the
details for you.
Best Wishes, --
Alan Marshall
web site http://www.northworthy.com
e-mail in...@northworthy.com
misifus
>Aha, the old bridge pins scam eh?
>The only place you can buy mine at the moment is direct from myself.
>They are 7.50 UK pounds a set plus postage, which to the USA is 1.55
>UK pounds for up to 3 sets.
>I believe that (allowing for exchange rates) is still quite a bit less
>than Johns Kingpins.
>I haven't seen his, maybe you should send me a set John! Mine are
>standard pattern Gold plated bell brass, nothing fancy, just made to
>perform.
>
John's are on his website, Alan.
<http://www.jpstrings.com/brnew.htm#Kpins>
-Ralph
--
Misifus-
Ralph Seibert
mailto:rsei...@cox-internet.com
http://www.ralphandsue.com
Bill Chandler
<bro...@northworthy.com> brewed up the following, and served it to
the group:
>Aha, the old bridge pins scam eh?
>The only place you can buy mine at the moment is direct from myself.
>They are 7.50 UK pounds a set plus postage, which to the USA is 1.55
>UK pounds for up to 3 sets.
>I believe that (allowing for exchange rates) is still quite a bit less
>than Johns Kingpins.
>I haven't seen his, maybe you should send me a set John! Mine are
>standard pattern Gold plated bell brass, nothing fancy, just made to
>perform.
>If you are interested, drop me an e-mail and I will sort out the
>details for you.
>
>Best Wishes, --
>Alan Marshall
>web site http://www.northworthy.com
>e-mail in...@northworthy.com
Well, I got a set of Alan's from Al Evans a year or so ago (has it
been that long? Time flies when you're in a stupor...), and put 3 of
them on my Backpacker. Left the 3 top strings with the plastic pins.
I was honestly shocked at the difference in the sound.
Now, of course, I'll have to try John's. And that means another
guitar...
Bill (any old excuse...) Chandler
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Mother Earth will swallow you, lay your body down."
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the real one is bc9424@spamTHIS!.concentric.net (if you remove spamTHIS!.)
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John Holbrook
"Bill Chandler" <dr...@yourown.risk.com> wrote in message
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> Well, I got a set of Alan's from Al Evans a year or so ago (has it
> been that long? Time flies when you're in a stupor...), and put 3 of
> them on my Backpacker. Left the 3 top strings with the plastic pins.
> I was honestly shocked at the difference in the sound.
>
> Now, of course, I'll have to try John's. And that means another
> guitar...
>
> Bill (any old excuse...) Chandler
Hey Bill,
Any progress on the job market yet? At EC6 I told Norm Draper that we ought
to hoist a beer or two to salute Bill Chandler's emplyment situation. Norm
said, "Holy Shit! Did Bill finally land one?" I told him, no, this would
be a sympathy toast! Anyhow, here's to good fortune, Bill Said as I sit at
my computer and finish off a Milwaukee's Best that's been getting warm while
I slowly type this!
John
Bill Chandler
<jhol...@NONE4MEinfinet.com> brewed up the following, and served it
to the group:
>
Nope, still pounding. Thanks for the sympathy brew (I'll take it
where I can get it...).
Eventually, I'll get something. Older, if nothing else...
Bill (getting there) Chandler
Sleepy Fingers Jones
<ead...@visi.net> wrote:
>I have a set of Alan's pins and I also have a set of John Pearse's
>"Kingpins". Aside from the fact that John's Kingpins are flat out gorgeous,
>they're every bit as good as Alan's IMO.
>They're available at Breezyridge.com.
>No, I'm not affiliated with Breezy Ridge, but I do like John and his
>products as well (nudge nudge, wink wink)
>Mike
Likewise, anyone interested in these pins can get to Alan through his
website, www.northworthy.com which has email, phone and real
addresses. It has to be said though, that the best way to get anything
out of him is to turn up in Hulland Ward with a baseball bat or a
blonde...
P