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Steve Hawkins

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Nov 20, 2009, 4:26:13 PM11/20/09
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First off, this is just to let you know where it's at. I will be posting
another thread to outline the issues and where I think we need to go.

Art Work - Complete except for copyright info

Liner notes - Complete except for copyright info

Masters - currently reside with me.

number of contributors - 87, I think.

Copyright Permissions - Non-HFA, mostly done, $500 spent. HFA
permissions, on hold. There are 55 cover tunes, 38 are HFA tunes. We're
looking at about $3K for copyright permissions.

Replication - waiting for copyright docs and $$$$. Quote, last year, was
$5250 minus sales tax, for 500 sets, 7 CD set, 131 tracks.

Finacials - $500 in the hole, no backer

The team currently consists of:

Me - spiritual adviser/whipping post
Richard Brooker - artwork
Jennifer Wang - liner notes
Harold Hedberg - Copyrights

More later,
Steve Hawkins

Larry Pattis

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:14:12 PM11/20/09
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Steve Hawkins <res0...@verizon.netREMOVETHIS> wrote:

> First off, this is just to let you know where it's at. I will be posting
> another thread to outline the issues and where I think we need to go.
>
> Art Work - Complete except for copyright info
>
> Liner notes - Complete except for copyright info
>
> Masters - currently reside with me.
>
> number of contributors - 87, I think.
>
> Copyright Permissions - Non-HFA, mostly done, $500 spent. HFA
> permissions, on hold. There are 55 cover tunes, 38 are HFA tunes. We're
> looking at about $3K for copyright permissions.
>
> Replication - waiting for copyright docs and $$$$. Quote, last year, was
> $5250 minus sales tax, for 500 sets, 7 CD set, 131 tracks.
>

> Financials - $500 in the hole, no backer


>
> The team currently consists of:
>
> Me - spiritual adviser/whipping post
> Richard Brooker - artwork
> Jennifer Wang - liner notes
> Harold Hedberg - Copyrights
>
> More later,
> Steve Hawkins

Steve,

I thought that the participants in this (the members submitting the
non-original copyrighted music) were to pay for *all* coyright
issues...and yet you mention:

"We're looking at about $3K for copyright permissions."

Have these monies not been collected?

Can you elaborate briefly on this?

--
Larry Pattis
email: LP "at" LarryPattis "dot" com
http://www.LarryPattis.com

Bill Chandler

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:27:41 PM11/20/09
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:26:13 +0000 (UTC), Steve Hawkins
<res0...@verizon.netREMOVETHIS> brewed up the following, and served
it to the group:

Steve--Do you need me to get back in touch with the man I got my
quotes from, or do you have better? Let me know--I may not be good
for much right now, but I can still work a phone and an email...

Thanks!

Bill (mostly useless) Chandler
--------
You'll go to Heck if you don't believe in Gosh.

the above e-mail address remains totally fictional.
the real one is bc9424 AT gmailspamTHIS! D0T com (if you remove spamTHIS!)
...please check out my music at http://www.soundclick.com/billchandler some time...

Bill Chandler
...bc...

Larry Pattis

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:46:25 PM11/20/09
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In article <ct5eg5pr6mt1mbiuo...@4ax.com>, Bill Chandler
<dr...@yourown.risk.com> wrote:

> Steve--Do you need me to get back in touch with the man I got my
> quotes from, or do you have better? Let me know--I may not be good
> for much right now, but I can still work a phone and an email...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bill (mostly useless) Chandler


Steve also mentioned something about sales tax on the CD purchase from
a replicator.

I would be happy to lend my "Guitar Odyssey" business (officially
licensed in Oregon as a re-seller) to procure the CDs without having to
pay sales tax.

I don't have the time to deal with any other aspect of this, such as
money-collection or retail distribution, but I can at least make sure
that no sales tax would be paid on the $5K plus number.

BTW, with CD sales down, there might be a pleasant surprise with a
better price from a replicator...folks are scrambling for business in
the CD manufacturing world.

The plant where I had my last run of "What Tomorrow Brings"
manufactured is out-of-business.

Mike Brown

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:54:16 PM11/20/09
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I'd be quite happy to pay for my copies now in anticipation of eventual
delivery if that helps (assuming that some others would do the same).

MJRB

Steve Hawkins

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:16:45 PM11/20/09
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Bill Chandler <dr...@yourown.risk.com> wrote in
news:ct5eg5pr6mt1mbiuo...@4ax.com:

>
> Steve--Do you need me to get back in touch with the man I got my
> quotes from, or do you have better? Let me know--I may not be good
> for much right now, but I can still work a phone and an email...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bill (mostly useless) Chandler

Thanks Bill and I'll let you know, but you still have the same assignment I
gave you when I had you send me the Masters; take care of your family and
yourself. I expect to see you and Carla in October.

Steve Hawkins

Steve Hawkins

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:22:54 PM11/20/09
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Larry Pattis <Neve...@spam.invalid> wrote in
news:201120091414127053%Neve...@spam.invalid:

>
> Steve,
>
> I thought that the participants in this (the members submitting the
> non-original copyrighted music) were to pay for *all* coyright
> issues...and yet you mention:
>
> "We're looking at about $3K for copyright permissions."
>
> Have these monies not been collected?
>
> Can you elaborate briefly on this?
>

No money has been collected; I'll address the rest in the next post. The
$500 came from Harold and I'd like to make sure he gets it back. That's
the reason I told him to hold off on HFA tunes for now.

Steve Hawkins

hank alrich

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:31:00 PM11/20/09
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Larry Pattis <Neve...@spam.invalid> wrote:

Earlier this year I was intending to work with Oasis for my current
project. I started realizing their communcation had turned crappy
compared to what I'd been used to, and then saw that they were intending
to charge sales tax on a product for which the destination was a
friggin' record label. Next I discovered they'd been purchased by
DiscMakers.

I started looking around and right now our CD is being replicated and
packaged by Cravedog in Portland OR. Pricing was more than cometitive,
communication has been near instantaneous, and they can tell the
difference between a standard taxable retail sale and a manufacturing
run for a record label. So far working with them has been an absolute
pleasure.

http://www.cravedog.com/

I've been communicating with Rob Simonsen there, and he has been stellar
at every step.

--
ha
shut up and play your guitar

Steve Hawkins

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:31:51 PM11/20/09
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Larry Pattis <Neve...@spam.invalid> wrote in news:201120091446255168%
Neve...@spam.invalid:


> Steve also mentioned something about sales tax on the CD purchase from
> a replicator.
>
> I would be happy to lend my "Guitar Odyssey" business (officially
> licensed in Oregon as a re-seller) to procure the CDs without having to
> pay sales tax.
>

Thanks Larry, I'll keep that in mind. You should consider that you might
become the "entity" responsible for copyright issues, as the business
placing the order. :-)

Steve Hawkins

Larry Pattis

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:35:28 PM11/20/09
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In article <1j9hmz3.1wkfrg2424f9dN%walk...@nv.net>, hank alrich
<walk...@nv.net> wrote:

> Earlier this year I was intending to work with Oasis for my current
> project. I started realizing their communcation had turned crappy
> compared to what I'd been used to, and then saw that they were intending
> to charge sales tax on a product for which the destination was a
> friggin' record label. Next I discovered they'd been purchased by
> DiscMakers.
>
> I started looking around and right now our CD is being replicated and
> packaged by Cravedog in Portland OR. Pricing was more than cometitive,
> communication has been near instantaneous, and they can tell the
> difference between a standard taxable retail sale and a manufacturing
> run for a record label. So far working with them has been an absolute
> pleasure.
>
> http://www.cravedog.com/
>
> I've been communicating with Rob Simonsen there, and he has been stellar
> at every step.
>
> --
> ha
> shut up and play your guitar


Excellent info to have...I'll be re-ordering two of my titles
shortly...and I can go drive to get them if I use this business!

Larry Pattis

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:38:00 PM11/20/09
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In article <Xns9CC9A82B1D631r...@188.40.43.213>, Steve
Hawkins <res0...@verizon.netREMOVETHIS> wrote:


If it's taken care of in advance of manufacturing I won't have a
problem with that.

Steve Hawkins

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:40:21 PM11/20/09
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walk...@nv.net (hank alrich) wrote in news:1j9hmz3.1wkfrg2424f9dN%
walk...@nv.net:

>
> Earlier this year I was intending to work with Oasis for my current
> project. I started realizing their communcation had turned crappy
> compared to what I'd been used to, and then saw that they were
intending
> to charge sales tax on a product for which the destination was a
> friggin' record label. Next I discovered they'd been purchased by
> DiscMakers.
>
> I started looking around and right now our CD is being replicated and
> packaged by Cravedog in Portland OR. Pricing was more than cometitive,
> communication has been near instantaneous, and they can tell the
> difference between a standard taxable retail sale and a manufacturing
> run for a record label. So far working with them has been an absolute
> pleasure.
>
> http://www.cravedog.com/
>
> I've been communicating with Rob Simonsen there, and he has been
stellar
> at every step.
>

heh....they're about 10 miles away from me.

Steve Hawkins

hank alrich

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:49:16 PM11/20/09
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Steve Hawkins <res0...@verizon.netREMOVETHIS> wrote:

Hawkins, you da man! Good on ya, bro'.

Tom from Texas

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:36:33 PM11/20/09
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Steve,
Call me.

--
Tom from Texas
(The Tom Risner Fund for Deserving North Texas Guitarplayers is not liable
for any slander, hurt feelings, pointless moaning, or achy-breaky heartache
any post under this name should cause. Yall want easy cash or sympathy...
ye can kiss my grits!!)
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sheltech

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Nov 20, 2009, 11:24:04 PM11/20/09
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I'm totally on board with that scenario, should it happen that way,
and possibly even w/ a donation to grease the wheels.

D

Bill Chandler

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:12:51 AM11/21/09
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On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:16:45 +0000 (UTC), Steve Hawkins

<res0...@verizon.netREMOVETHIS> brewed up the following, and served
it to the group:

>Bill Chandler <dr...@yourown.risk.com> wrote in

We're planning on it, Steve, if they have to drag my sorry carcass
down on a stretcher. I can't tell you how bad it SUCKED missing
Wimberley this year. (Even worse than it sucked a couple of years
ago...)

Thanks.
--------
A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?

Fred Pierce

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Nov 21, 2009, 9:54:31 AM11/21/09
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Sounds like progress! Don't remember what I ordered but when it gets
to the bottom line, if there's a deficit, "Cobscook Bay Music" might
be interested in doing a little sponsorship.

fdp

-------------------------------------
Fred Pierce - avialantic.com
cobscookbaymusic.com

Mike Brown

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:38:16 PM11/21/09
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I'll certainly take more than one set as usual.

I still have a spare set of CDIII.

MJRB

Peter Jorgensen

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:52:09 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 20, 3:26 pm, Steve Hawkins <res0p...@verizon.netREMOVETHIS>
wrote:

> First off, this is just to let you know where it's at.  I will be posting
> another thread to outline the issues and where I think we need to go.

Is the Yahoo Groups mailing list for the project still live? It
occurs to me that there may be some folks no longer active here who
would still be on that list, and it might be good to bring them up to
date as well. (Might even bring them back to the group!)
---
Peter Jorgensen
pejorg2000[at]yahoo.com
You can hear some of my music at
http://www.soundclick.com/pejorg2000
- IF YOU DARE!

Steve Hawkins

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:40:12 AM11/23/09
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Peter Jorgensen <pejor...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:fd007e52-2411-4852-
9332-271...@j35g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:

I'll be hitting ALL the lists when it's time.

Steve Hawkins

don hindenach

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:11:11 PM11/24/09
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On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:22:54 UTC, Steve Hawkins <res0...@verizon.netREMOVETHIS>
wrote:

Steve,

If you need money, say the word and I'll send my share and a bit more. I can't
support bigbucks, but if enough of us support littlebucks it'll fly home!

--
-donh-
donh at audiosys dot com

Geezer51

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:21:18 PM11/24/09
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"don hindenach" <bounc...@driveway.splort> wrote in message
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Yeah,
Same here. I don't recall any past complaints about pre-payment.

Geezer


Goodfellow

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Nov 27, 2009, 8:01:24 PM11/27/09
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Wow when did we send these in 2004?
I don't remember what songs I recorded.
CD III was good, this should be interesting.


David Hajicek

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Nov 27, 2009, 8:20:47 PM11/27/09
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Steve:

Once you get the financials figured out, put out the call for advance
orders. Put me down for a set.

Dave Hajicek


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