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David Hajicek

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Dec 19, 2009, 11:15:43 PM12/19/09
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I haven't used guitar straps much. But recently I have started to. It
takes some of the load off my lower back (I don't have to bend over) and my
fretting hand is free to move without having to support the neck. This
helps even when sitting down. So I guess I'm a slow learner on this.

But the strap design just doesn't seem right for me. I like the Martin
strap I'm using, but it does a better job of padding the guitar than it does
of padding my left shoulder (where half the weight goes). It doesn't seem
to hurt, but why pad a foot of air (near the tail of the guitar) and not my
shoulder?

Are there better straps that hopefully don't cost more than a low priced
guitar?

Also, there are strap locks available, but I don't see how mine could come
undone (button on far side of neck heel). Any experiences on this?

Dave Hajicek

hank alrich

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Dec 19, 2009, 11:27:26 PM12/19/09
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David Hajicek <haj...@skypoint.com> wrote:

Have you tried swappng end for end?

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David Hajicek

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Dec 20, 2009, 3:05:12 AM12/20/09
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"hank alrich" <walk...@nv.net> wrote in message
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I actually tried that earlier, but it was the opposite of every picture I've
seen of someone who has a strap on the guitar. Namely the adjustable part
goes toward the neck, with the little shoe string for the head, if you don't
have a button. But it does seem to work well the way you suggest.

It is more comfortable and solid feeling. Is this how you do it?

Dave Hajicek


Misifus

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Dec 20, 2009, 9:48:02 AM12/20/09
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It's the way I prefer to use those type adjustable straps, for aesthetic
reasons as well as comfort. To my eye, the adjustable part of the strap
is the least decorative, so I put it in back.

-Raf

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home: http://www.rafandsioux.com

Wilbur Slice

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Dec 20, 2009, 9:55:35 AM12/20/09
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On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:27:26 -0600, walk...@nv.net (hank alrich)
wrote:

>David Hajicek <haj...@skypoint.com> wrote:
>
>> I haven't used guitar straps much. But recently I have started to. It
>> takes some of the load off my lower back (I don't have to bend over) and my
>> fretting hand is free to move without having to support the neck. This
>> helps even when sitting down. So I guess I'm a slow learner on this.
>>
>> But the strap design just doesn't seem right for me. I like the Martin
>> strap I'm using, but it does a better job of padding the guitar than it does
>> of padding my left shoulder (where half the weight goes). It doesn't seem
>> to hurt, but why pad a foot of air (near the tail of the guitar) and not my
>> shoulder?
>>
>> Are there better straps that hopefully don't cost more than a low priced
>> guitar?
>>
>> Also, there are strap locks available, but I don't see how mine could come
>> undone (button on far side of neck heel). Any experiences on this?
>>
>> Dave Hajicek
>
>Have you tried swappng end for end?


I tried that once, but then the strings were updide down.

hank alrich

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Dec 20, 2009, 9:56:02 AM12/20/09
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David Hajicek <haj...@skypoint.com> wrote:

> "hank alrich" <walk...@nv.net> wrote in message
> news:1jazt0e.1rmq4d4x77250N%walk...@nv.net...
> > David Hajicek <haj...@skypoint.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I haven't used guitar straps much. But recently I have started to. It
> >> takes some of the load off my lower back (I don't have to bend over) and
> >> my
> >> fretting hand is free to move without having to support the neck. This
> >> helps even when sitting down. So I guess I'm a slow learner on this.
> >>
> >> But the strap design just doesn't seem right for me. I like the Martin
> >> strap I'm using, but it does a better job of padding the guitar than it
> >> does
> >> of padding my left shoulder (where half the weight goes). It doesn't
> >> seem
> >> to hurt, but why pad a foot of air (near the tail of the guitar) and not
> >> my
> >> shoulder?
> >>
> >> Are there better straps that hopefully don't cost more than a low priced
> >> guitar?
> >>
> >> Also, there are strap locks available, but I don't see how mine could
> >> come
> >> undone (button on far side of neck heel). Any experiences on this?
> >>
> >> Dave Hajicek
> >
> > Have you tried swappng end for end?

> I actually tried that earlier, but it was the opposite of every picture I've


> seen of someone who has a strap on the guitar. Namely the adjustable part
> goes toward the neck, with the little shoe string for the head, if you don't
> have a button. But it does seem to work well the way you suggest.
>
> It is more comfortable and solid feeling. Is this how you do it?
>
> Dave Hajicek

I haven't used a typical strap in a long time. Once I got a pair of
Itzacinch's that was it. But if it works one way and not another, I
always try to go the easy route.

One of these days I hope to track down the Itzacinch folks and see about
getting some kind of handle on those. I think they folded. They offered
the best strap I've ever used.

I have an Ibanez Musician that weighs more than a heavy Les Paul. When I
get a jam band together we play hour-and-a-half to two-plus-hour sets,
and those straps keep me comfortable wearing that wonderful beast.

Debra Cowan

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Dec 20, 2009, 11:02:03 AM12/20/09
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Hiya David,

In 2003 I had the extremely good fortune to win a John
Pearse leather strap in the raffle. I *loved* it! Then
in 2008 in Portland, OR (and Hawkins can attest to
this) I left the strap at one of the gigs, never to be
seen again. When I got back home from that tour, I
immedaitely ordered another strap from JP. I have back
issues as well and until I got the VA, my Martin HD was
really causing some me some pain. That has diminished a
bit with the VA (it's a lighter weight guitar) and
doing back exercises daily. The JP strap gives a great
amount of support.

And if you order from JP, just tell 'em you are from RMMGA.

Deb


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"Its those we follow that matter" Loretta Lynn
******************************
Debra Cowan - Singer
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USA and UK BOOKINGS: +1(508) 662-9746
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www.voyageairguitar.com
******************************

David Hajicek

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Dec 20, 2009, 12:01:00 PM12/20/09
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"Debra Cowan" <dco...@DebraSPAMMENOTCowan.com> wrote in message
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> David Hajicek wrote:
>>
> Hiya David,
>
> In 2003 I had the extremely good fortune to win a John Pearse leather
> strap in the raffle. I *loved* it! Then in 2008 in Portland, OR (and
> Hawkins can attest to this) I left the strap at one of the gigs, never to
> be seen again. When I got back home from that tour, I immedaitely ordered
> another strap from JP. I have back issues as well and until I got the VA,
> my Martin HD was really causing some me some pain. That has diminished a
> bit with the VA (it's a lighter weight guitar) and doing back exercises
> daily. The JP strap gives a great amount of support.
>
> And if you order from JP, just tell 'em you are from RMMGA.
>
> Deb
>
>
> --
>
> "Its those we follow that matter" Loretta Lynn
> ******************************
> Debra Cowan - Singer
> Website: www.DebraCowan.com
> MySpace page: www.myspace.com/debracowan
> USA and UK BOOKINGS: +1(508) 662-9746
> SNAIL-MAIL: P.O. Box 1335, Westborough, MA 01581
> Debra Cowan is a proud member of AFM Local 1000
> and endorses Voyage-Air Guitars
> www.voyageairguitar.com
> ******************************

I'll give them a look. John gave me the secret password too. ;>)

I miss him. He was a great person.

Dave


David Hajicek

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Dec 20, 2009, 12:02:39 PM12/20/09
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"Wilbur Slice" <wil...@wilburslicehome.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:27:26 -0600, walk...@nv.net (hank alrich)
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Have you tried swappng end for end?
>
>
> I tried that once, but then the strings were upside down.
>
And I had to fret with my right hand. ;>)

Dave


Misifus

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Dec 20, 2009, 12:57:35 PM12/20/09
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I found this somewhat dated reference to those straps on line:

> This very energetic company is always ready to service its accounts
> promptly and accurately. It also specializes in carrying
> manufacturers' full lines. Same day service. ITZACINCH GUITAR
> STRAPS--P.O. Box 368, Moab, Utah 84532. Telephone: (801) 259-5673.
> Contact: Allyn Niles.

All the other references come back to you, Hank. :)

These straps seem similar, but superior, to a strap I made for my P-bass
from a saddle cinch. It, too, was comfortable for long nights with a
heavy guitar. It also prevented nose dive with that not entirely
balanced P-bass.

Misifus

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Dec 20, 2009, 1:36:59 PM12/20/09
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Here is one I found that I think I'll order myself.

http://tinyurl.com/ybatd3f

John Sorell

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Dec 20, 2009, 2:13:50 PM12/20/09
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Misifus <rafse...@att.net> wrote in
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Raf,

Do you know how it adjusts?

John

Geezer51

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Dec 20, 2009, 2:39:38 PM12/20/09
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"John Sorell" <j.sorel...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Wrap the free end around your neck once or twice...


Geezer


LA

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Dec 20, 2009, 3:21:36 PM12/20/09
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On Dec 20, 8:56 am, walki...@nv.net (hank alrich) wrote:


. I think they folded. They offered
> the best strap I've ever used.


:-)

LA

Misifus

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Dec 20, 2009, 4:24:53 PM12/20/09
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I've been looking at that. I *think* the other end has the usual
arrangement of slots that a thinner strap fits through, like this Levy:

http://tinyurl.com/yhsctrx

Dorgan

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Dec 20, 2009, 7:55:05 PM12/20/09
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"David Hajicek" <haj...@skypoint.com> wrote

>
> It is more comfortable and solid feeling. Is this how you do it?
>
> Dave Hajicek


Dave,
there is no right or wrong way.
the right way is the one that works best for you.

dorgan


hank alrich

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:24:00 AM12/21/09
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Misifus <rafse...@att.net> wrote:

Yeah, they wer in Moab when I bought my straps, and then they moved to
somewhere in Nevada, and I haven't been able to find them since.

> These straps seem similar, but superior, to a strap I made for my P-bass
> from a saddle cinch. It, too, was comfortable for long nights with a
> heavy guitar. It also prevented nose dive with that not entirely
> balanced P-bass.

It's a fine design for a strap.

Misifus

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Dec 21, 2009, 9:45:54 AM12/21/09
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Given the difficulty in locating them, I suspect they're no longer
depending on strap sales for a majority of their income.

Deb Cowan

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Dec 21, 2009, 9:59:24 AM12/21/09
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I never got to meet him, but I have spoken to the crew down
there in Pennsylvania and they are great.

Deb


--
"Its those we follow that matter" Loretta Lynn
******************************
Debra Cowan - Singer

Website: http://www.DebraCowan.com
MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/debracowan
Facebook: http://band.to/debracowanmusic


USA and UK BOOKINGS: +1(508) 662-9746
SNAIL-MAIL: P.O. Box 1335, Westborough, MA 01581
Debra Cowan is a proud member of AFM Local 1000 and

endorses Voyage-Air Guitars http://voyageairguitar.com
******************************

John Sorell

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Dec 21, 2009, 10:16:27 AM12/21/09
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"Geezer51" <geez...@somewhere.net> wrote in news:hgluhu$qo9$1
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I didn't see a free end. Just a strap for $$.

John

John Sorell

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Dec 21, 2009, 10:19:26 AM12/21/09
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>>>>
>>>
>>> Here is one I found that I think I'll order myself.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/ybatd3f
>>>
>>> -Raf
>>>
>>
>> Raf,
>>
>> Do you know how it adjusts?
>>
>> John
>
>
> I've been looking at that. I *think* the other end has the usual
> arrangement of slots that a thinner strap fits through, like this Levy:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yhsctrx
>
> -Raf
>

I have been looking at these:

http://picasaweb.google.com/jds1047

John

hank alrich

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Dec 21, 2009, 10:59:28 AM12/21/09
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John Sorell <j.sorel...@comcast.net> wrote:

Can you stretch a dollar twice around yer neck?

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ha
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John Sorell

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Dec 21, 2009, 11:23:29 AM12/21/09
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walk...@nv.net (hank alrich) wrote in
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Uh, uh.

John

Tony Weber

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Dec 21, 2009, 11:48:20 AM12/21/09
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Nice...

John Sorell

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Dec 21, 2009, 11:54:42 AM12/21/09
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Tony Weber <mycro...@SOCKSspeakeasy.net> wrote in
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They're spendy. $90 for the standard strap. But they go nicely with my
snotty capo.

John

hank alrich

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Dec 21, 2009, 12:32:05 PM12/21/09
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John Sorell <j.sorel...@comcast.net> wrote:

Sheesh, dude, nobody's gonna see it under the boa anyway.

Misifus

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Dec 21, 2009, 3:51:56 PM12/21/09
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I went to the Franklin website and saw several pictures there. None was
really specific, but they seemed to show the type of adjustment I
referred to. I've got one coming, so I'll let you know when I arrives.

Misifus

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Dec 21, 2009, 3:59:45 PM12/21/09
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That's certainly elegant. What I was taken by with the Franklin Cinch
strap, was the soft comfort I remember from the strap I made from a
cinch years ago. If this new one is as comfortable, I may order more.

As I it is, this one is for my brother's guitar. I'm currently making
do with one of those cheap nylon straps that allow the guitar to go
wherever it wishes to. A good strap, and then I'll put a K&K in it, and
it may become my gigging guitar. Milam was over last Friday and he made
a bee line for it. He's got a slightly newer Guild F50R, that's in much
better shape, but he likes John's guitar. So do I.

John Sorell

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Dec 21, 2009, 6:23:41 PM12/21/09
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Misifus <rafse...@att.net> wrote in news:7pa5u2Fiq0U1
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I also like the looks of the Franklin. I would think the softness of the
cotten part would be just what I'm looking for. Looking forward to hear
what you think about it.

John

David Hajicek

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Dec 23, 2009, 11:59:54 PM12/23/09
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"Dorgan" <dor...@fltg.net> wrote in message
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Thank you Bob. Now I don't have to worry about it.

Dave


Misifus

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Dec 28, 2009, 6:09:13 PM12/28/09
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It just came in the mail, this afternoon. I like it. The Franklin
Cinch strap is three inches wide, and the woven cotton have the feel of
a saddle cinch, thick and spongy. I put it on my brother's Guild F50R,
which is not a light guitar.

The strap has two qualities which were what led me to make a similar one
40 years ago for my heavy Fender bass. The strap is comfortable, the
woven cotton conforms to my shoulder and distributes the weight nicely.
The second attribute I find very useful is that the strap and the
guitar stay put. It's not difficult to position or reposition the
guitar, but when I put it in place, it stays where I put it.

This strap is replacing a cheap woven nylon strap which tended to slip
and made me fight to keep it in position while playing. No more. I
believe I'll be ordering a few more.

As to the adjustment, there is a series of slots on the back part of the
strap, and one of those pieces that slip through the slot and then
zigzag to the end of the strap. In addition, there are multiple holes
in narrow piece. Together, they afford a wide range of adjustment. The
leather fittings at both ends of the strap are soft suede and very
comfortable.

hth

Tom from Texas

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Dec 28, 2009, 8:16:45 PM12/28/09
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"Misifus" <rafse...@att.net> wrote in message
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Way to go, Raf. Sue says I don't need to get a new strap. She says I
should wrap them around my neck a couple of times and then attach the ends
to my heaviest guitar.... She even thought I might attach the end to the
ceiling fan to stretch out any loose material. That woman is so sweet to be
thinking of me and my comfort.
--
Tom from Texas
(The Tom Risner Fund for Deserving North Texas Guitarplayers is not liable
for any slander, hurt feelings, pointless moaning, or achy-breaky heartache
any post under this name should cause. Yall want easy cash or sympathy...
ye can kiss my grits!!)


John Sorell

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Dec 29, 2009, 9:37:08 AM12/29/09
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Misifus <rafse...@att.net> wrote in
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Thanks Raf,

You hit on all the issues I was concerned about.

John

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