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rayboyce

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Dec 28, 2009, 1:41:16 AM12/28/09
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Due to getting old, increasing gig activities of late, and some newly
discovered neck issues - nerve reactions affecting my forearms/wrists...
I've recently increased usage/switched to gig bags and packing the
instruments on my back via shoulder straps.

Caution... From recent school of hard knocks, no pun intended... When you
use a gig back, BE VERY SURE to not leave the 2-way zippers at the bottom of
the bag... zip them up high to the neck/body join of the instrument.

After multi gigs last weekend... and then Sunday I hosted the open mic
finish, as I was leaving the mall... My fav gigging bass, (a Kubicki
X-Factor of vintage years) worked its way out of the bag and took a
butt-end-first dive to the concrete sidewalk, from waist high, and then (as
I felt the motion of it coming out I stopped walking), it fell along side me
strings "face" down to flat sidewalk.

Fortunately the damage was limited to slightly abrased strings and a small
1/8" diameter finish chip on the butt end, lower bout... and I'm pretty sure
momentary cardiac arrest on my part.

It must be stupidity on my part, but I've never thought twice about where
the zippers were positioned as long as they were closed tight. That has
changed... and for those of you who use gig bags... thought I'd share my
demise.

The bass is basically ok, I played live with it today. And I'm thankful for
the relatively good health I've enjoyed thus far in life.... but on the
other half of the story, I'll be seeing a neuro surgeon this week for the
neck/nerve ending stuff, and could use some positive energy/vibes and some
white light for minimally invasive treatments.

~ray (i got no right to complain)


Bill Chandler

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Dec 28, 2009, 11:01:28 AM12/28/09
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:41:16 -0800, "rayboyce"
<nospamraymond...@verizon.net> brewed up the following, and
served it to the group:

<snipped the scary part>

>The bass is basically ok, I played live with it today.

Good to hear! I cringed...

>And I'm thankful for
>the relatively good health I've enjoyed thus far in life.... but on the
>other half of the story, I'll be seeing a neuro surgeon this week for the
>neck/nerve ending stuff, and could use some positive energy/vibes and some
>white light for minimally invasive treatments.
>
>~ray (i got no right to complain)

All positive energy your way, Ray. Hope they get it all sorted good
for you.

Bill
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hank alrich

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:22:54 PM12/28/09
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Bill Chandler <dr...@yourown.risk.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:41:16 -0800, "rayboyce"
> <nospamraymond...@verizon.net> brewed up the following, and
> served it to the group:
>
> <snipped the scary part>
>
> >The bass is basically ok, I played live with it today.
>
> Good to hear! I cringed...

What's the big deal? It ain't like he dropped a banjo or some other
valuable instrument.

> >And I'm thankful for
> >the relatively good health I've enjoyed thus far in life.... but on the
> >other half of the story, I'll be seeing a neuro surgeon this week for the
> >neck/nerve ending stuff, and could use some positive energy/vibes and some
> >white light for minimally invasive treatments.
> >
> >~ray (i got no right to complain)
>
> All positive energy your way, Ray. Hope they get it all sorted good
> for you.
>
> Bill
> --------
> ... Everything put together falls apart sooner or later.

Heh. Thanks for the reminder.


--
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hank alrich

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:22:53 PM12/28/09
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rayboyce <nospamraymond...@verizon.net> wrote:

> The bass is basically ok

That's good news. Otherwise you'd be facing lots of treble.

Madgamer

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Dec 28, 2009, 3:29:20 PM12/28/09
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Hay Ray I to at 68 have some health issues but I still can play. I had
CTS cone on both hands 6 years ago just before I went to Denver to
pickup Spirit. It was the type of CTS that involves loss of tissue mass
around the thumb but was caught in time.
Memory and slow fingers and a feeling that they are not as strong as
they were has led me to flat picking some of the stuff I used to finger
pick. I value the time I play now much more than when I was young.

Larry A

Mike Brown

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Dec 29, 2009, 1:00:38 AM12/29/09
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Glad to hear that the mishap came out reasonably well. I haven't got to
the gig bag stage yet, but I'll remember the tip for when . . .

Positive energy on the way.

MJRB

rayboyce

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Dec 29, 2009, 12:45:23 PM12/29/09
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> Glad to hear that the mishap came out reasonably well. I haven't got to
> the gig bag stage yet, but I'll remember the tip for when . . .
>
> Positive energy on the way.
>
> MJRB

Thanks Mike, et. al.

Yeah much of the aggravation is probably the fact that I'm often carrying
sound gear, acoustic, and now folks are asking me more and more, to side for
them playing bass while sharing venues.... so add the bass in. 2-3 trips
to the parking lot are not at all uncommon.

If it were just the guitar... I might not have discovered the neck issues...
which affect 4 disks... But this gives me early warning to at least hope for
a medicinal, therapeutical, exercise approach... before resorting to
surgery.


Misifus

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Dec 29, 2009, 1:08:58 PM12/29/09
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Ray, I developed a herniated disk a couple of months ago. Mine happened
to be in a different part of my back (lumbar). It turned out I was not
a candidate for an epidural, which was disappointing, because I thought
the epidural might effect an "instant cure".

Never-the-less, I accepted the physical therapy approach. My therapist
was excellent and I am completely recovered from the problem. He used
the McKenzie Therapy, and I am amazed at the rapidity of the cure.
Within a week, I was largely pain free, and within a month, I had
excellent range of motion and I was getting my strength back.

I guess my point is, physical therapy can work on some disk problems,
and work well. I hope yours is one of those.

-Raf

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David Hajicek

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Dec 29, 2009, 1:44:03 PM12/29/09
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"rayboyce" <nospamraymond...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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snip > momentary cardiac arrest on my part.

>
> It must be stupidity on my part, but I've never thought twice about where
> the zippers were positioned as long as they were closed tight. That has
> changed... and for those of you who use gig bags... thought I'd share my
> demise.
>
snip>

> ~ray (i got no right to complain)
>
There it another zipper that you need to be sure is fully positioned in the
correct position. ;>)
Dave


LA

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Dec 29, 2009, 2:13:08 PM12/29/09
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Old Bags and Gig Men

The Plaster Casters got to be like 70 years old....no?


LA

Geezer51

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Dec 29, 2009, 2:37:59 PM12/29/09
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"rayboyce" <nospamraymond...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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It's a good thing to be going to a neurosurgeon for those issues. If
the condition is caused by wear and tear, and not a degenerative condition,
exercise and therapy can do wonders.
Look into theraputical massage, also. My wife has been down this road but
her problems are more hereditary. Still, exercise and therapy made things
heal
much faster.

Be careful what you carry!

Geezer


rayboyce

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Dec 29, 2009, 10:14:15 PM12/29/09
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"Misifus" <rafse...@att.net> wrote in message
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Thanks very much Raf. I hope as well. I'll spare the ugly details while
online, but let's just say that it's certainly got my undivided attention.


rayboyce

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Dec 29, 2009, 10:22:18 PM12/29/09
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"Geezer51" <geez...@somewhere.net> wrote in message
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Thanks Dan. Being "C" discs not "L" discs... which affect nerves in the
arms/fingers... I do plan to get the best experts to help understand and
consider all possibilities.


Rick Ruskin

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:20:14 PM12/30/09
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Ray,

You have my sympathies. Here's hoping for a speedy resolve to your
back problems. I'm there myself and can relate all too well.

RR
Rick Ruskin
Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
http://liondogmusic.com
http://www.myspace.com/rickruskin

Tom from Texas

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:39:32 PM12/30/09
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"rayboyce" <nospamraymond...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Well, at least yall didn't drop the pizza. (Sorry, old bassplayer joke)

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rayboyce

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Dec 31, 2009, 2:05:54 AM12/31/09
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>
> Ray,
>
> You have my sympathies. Here's hoping for a speedy resolve to your
> back problems. I'm there myself and can relate all too well.
>

Thanks Rick...

Hope you're doing better. Email sent.

~ray


hank alrich

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Dec 31, 2009, 10:30:55 AM12/31/09
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Rick Ruskin <lio...@isomedia.com> wrote:

Good vibes to both of you, and speaking from experience. We take walking
for granted, until we can't.

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