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Jared Drake

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Sep 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/18/00
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I checked Harmony Central for a review of the AC375 "Thin-Line True
Acoustic" that Carvin's got out. Says Craig Chaquico plays one. I was
wondering if anyone in here had ever played one. I'm still on my quest to
find a suitable guitar, so I'm sorry about all the posts and questions. I'm
a pretty small guy, so I like the small body of the 375. I'm fully aware
that it won't sound like a full-size acoustic and I'll probably be losing
some of the bass response. That's fine with me. I rarely play out with
anybody and I'm not as serious about this whole gig as some of you are. This
is just fun for me and I seriously doubt I could close my eyes and tell a
difference between a spruce top and some kind of weird wood that you guys
talk about here. All I want to know is how it plays. Is the neck thin like
an electric? Thanks.
Jared Drake

Chris Rogers

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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If you're in the market for an acoustic that plays like an electric,
check out Godins - either the A6 or the Acousticaster sounds right up
your street. You could also try out Fender's Teleacoustic, but the
ones I've seen look pretty naff! I can recommend the Acousticaster as
I own one - it's a beautiful, great-sounding instrument.

Chris Rogers;
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Jared Drake

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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I'd thought about the Telecoustic or the Stratacoustic, but I'm not a big
fan of fiberglass on my guitars and I just don't think a 300 dollar acoustic
will be that great. I don't think I'd fall in love with it. I'll go check
out the Godins. Thanks for the suggestion!
Jared Drake

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Jared Drake

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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Chris, I forgot to ask...how does the Godin sound unplugged? I halfheartedly
took your suggestion and went to the Lasido website, because the Godins I've
seen I didn't like. But you were right....those guitars look great! I just
wish they had a soundhole. But back to my original question. Are they very
loud unplugged? That's how I'd be spending most of my time.
Jared Drake

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john bj

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Jared Drake wrote:
> I checked Harmony Central for a review of the AC375 "Thin-Line True
Acoustic" that Carvin's got out. Says Craig Chaquico plays one. I was
wondering if anyone in here had ever played one. I'm still on my quest
to find a suitable guitar, so I'm sorry about all the posts and
questions. I'm a pretty small guy, so I like the small body of the 375.
I'm fully aware that it won't sound like a full-size acoustic and I'll
probably be losing some of the bass response. That's fine with me. I
rarely play out with anybody and I'm not as serious about this whole gig
as some of you are. This is just fun for me and I seriously doubt I
could close my eyes and tell a difference between a spruce top and some
kind of weird wood that you guys talk about here. All I want to know is
how it plays. Is the neck thin like an electric? Thanks.

Hi Jared,

I may have missed some of your earlier questions, so these may be repeat
suggestions. Anyway, without knowing your budget limits, your
acoustic-electric description sounds like the newer "shallow bowl"
Ovation. They get a lot of nay-saying for their plastic body, but last
year I was trying out guitars at Musician's Friend in Denver and was
surprised to find the Custom Legend 1869 to be the best sounding
*acoustic*, beating out (IMHO) a Martin D-45 and several Gibsons and
Guilds. Top notch materials, a breeze to play - if I had a spare $1500,
it was going home with me. Ovation's pick-ups are great, too.

Other than Ovation, for electric-like playability, there's Taylor and
the new thin-neck Martins, both available with and without pickups. You
should also consider Tacoma - I just saw a tape of a Peter Frampton
concert last month and he used a variety of these exclusively for all
his acoustic numbers. I have a C1CE7 Chief myself and love it. In
fact, the Chief's body definitely meets your "small" requirement. I got
mine last year from FQMS for $700, which includes upgrade to hard shell
case and B-Band pickup.

Happy hunting!

peace and joy,
jbj
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Gordon Lau

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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Hi Jared,

I'll answer your question since everyone seems to mention everything
but the AC375. The AC375 neck profile is similar to Carvin's
electrics but is slightly wider to accomadate the 1 3/4" as opposed to
the electric's 1 11/16". So if you played one of their electrics, the
acoustic necks feel basically the same. If you haven't, their necks
feel a hair bigger than a Taylor neck (i.e. it feels thin like an
electric). I like Carvin necks. I own one of their electrics but the
neck I have, they no longer offer (a thru body 25 1/2" scale neck,
this scale is only offered as a bolt on now).

Acoustically, the only ones that sound decent are the spruce top
versions. The ones where Carvin puts a maple, koa, walnut, etc.
veneer on top of the spruce sound dead. The 'normal' spruce top model,
to my ears it sounded like a plywood b/s with a solid top acoustic but
with less bass. Kinda like a bigger sounding Baby Taylor (maybe it
sounds like the Big Baby although I haven't actually heard one yet).

The Fishman pickup system is mediocre although that could also be
caused by Carvin's Acoustic amp I was plugged through. I couldn't get
a good acoustic tone out of this setup.

I've also tried their nylon string model. I really can't comment on
tone since I really don't know what I like for nylon tone. But the
rest of the stuff I wrote about the steel string version applies to
the nylon.

Since you prefer a small body guitar, you might want to check out an
OM or grand concert size guitars from other manufacturers such as
Taylor (300 series) or Larrivee (02, 03 series). You can get one for
about the same price (or less) as the AC375 and it will sound much
better, IMHO.

--Gordon Lau

Jared Drake

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Sep 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/19/00
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So, how thick are the Tacoma bodies? I checked the Tacoma site and they
don't mention how thick the Chief's body is. Know where I can get those kind
of specs? Thanks.
Jared Drake

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john bj

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Jared Drake wrote:
> So, how thick are the Tacoma bodies? I checked the Tacoma site and
they don't mention how thick the Chief's body is. Know where I can get
those kind of specs? Thanks.


I'll measure my Chief when I get home from work, but I'll guess the
Chief is in the 2-1/2" to 3" range. The width and length of the body is
fairly small as well. Tacoma's Dreds and Jumbos run around 4" deep. You
can write them for details at Taco...@aol.com - they're very
responsive.

peace and joy,
jbj

Ethan Young

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Sep 19, 2000, 10:46:18 PM9/19/00
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Ummmm, then why not just go for a completely acoustic guitar? You could
spend the extra $100 or so you save on electronic equipment that isn't there
on a higher quality instrument....then, if you ever need to turn it into a
great sounding acoustic/electric, you can just install an acoustic pickup
with an endpin jack, and it will look no different than before.

Later,
Ethan

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Hojo2x

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Sep 20, 2000, 12:37:36 AM9/20/00
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Jared Drake wrote:

>I'm still on my quest to>find a suitable guitar, so I'm sorry about all the
posts and questions.

Hey, Jared, don't be SORRY. We eat this shit UP! That's why we're HERE!!!

Getting intrigued with the Tacoma Chief (which, sonically, is a much better
choice for you than a lot of the other possibilities you've mentioned,) Jared
wrote:

>So, how thick are the Tacoma bodies? I checked the Tacoma site and they>don't
mention how thick the Chief's body is. Know where I can get those kind>of
specs?


Jared, I don't know of anyplace online where you can get those specs, either,
so I just called a buddy of mine who used to work for Tacoma guitars and who
was one of the research and development guys who was on the team who came up
with that design.

He said that the sides themselves are 3 1/2" deep, and so if you an an eighth
of an inch each for the top and back (at most) you get 3 3/4".

The Chief is an extremely comfortable instrument to play, and works well
onstage. Those suckers are LOUD, too! Plus, they tend to sound really sweet.
Overall, the Chiefs are a very clever design. I gig out with a guy who uses
one, and it sounds very good plugged in.

Hope this helps.


Wade Hampton Miller

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