True Tone Sound & M System Info
M Musement
Hojo2x
>Please email Chamber...@aol.com for any questions concerning True Tone
>Sound products .
Okay, here's a quick question: I heard True Tone was out of business. Is that
true, or was it true but is true no longer? Are you dealing in remaining True
Tone stock, or making new True Tone pickups, or are you just a True Tone fan
who likes talking about them?
I guess that was SEVERAL questions, wasn't it?
Anyway, none of the above is clear from your rather terse post here on
rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic, which is why I ask. There are some True Tone
fans who frequent this newsgroup (a small but hardy band) so I'm sure your
answers will be of interest to them.
Thanks.
Wade Hampton Miller
Ken Cashion
>Please email Chamber...@aol.com for any questions concerning True Tone
>Sound products .
Wow! Great!
I still have a Truetone guitar that I picked the frets out of
and put one of those bent nuts over the original. I made me a slide
guitar out of it.
It still has the 'Goldwater for President' bumper sticker on
it.
Do you still sell through Western Autos?
That is where I got mine.
They are good little guitars and can give pretty good
protection if you play in places you have to fight your way out of --
before you even get to play.
Keep up the good work!
Cheers -- Ken Cashion
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Hojo2x
Ken (with his tongue firmly in cheek, it would appear,) wrote:
>Wow! Great!
> I still have a Truetone guitar that I picked the frets out of....
>It still has the 'Goldwater for President' >bumper sticker on>it.
>Do you still sell through Western Autos?
Ahh....different True Tone, would be my guess, Ken.
John Pearse has told me for years that he thinks the True Tone pickups were the
best ever made. Chris Grener is the guy who came up with the design, and who
is now taking those ideas a step further.
Maybe if he wows the marketplace and his pickup systems become the standard by
which all others are judged, he MIGHT eventually start marketing them through
Western Auto, but I wouldn't count on it happening any time soon.....
Wade Hampton Miller
Ken Cashion
>After Chris Grener posted about his former association with True Tone pickups,
>Ken (with his tongue firmly in cheek, it would appear,) wrote:
>
>>Wow! Great!
>> I still have a Truetone guitar that I picked the frets out of....
>
>>It still has the 'Goldwater for President' >bumper sticker on>it.
>
>>Do you still sell through Western Autos?
>
>
>Ahh....different True Tone, would be my guess, Ken.
Wade, well...maybe...
>John Pearse has told me for years that he thinks the True Tone pickups were the
>best ever made. Chris Grener is the guy who came up with the design, and who
>is now taking those ideas a step further.
I haven't even gotten the sounds of different actions on
guitars worked out yet so I am certainly not going to get involved
with discussing the quality of pickups. I have a mess of old ones and
that pretty-well discribes them -- "mess."
The most I could hope for were mikes that would make me and
the current musical instrument sound the same in the back as in the
front.
I just wanted me and the instrument to be louder -- there
wasn't much that could have been done to improve the sound of either.
Not with me being the source.
>Maybe if he wows the marketplace and his pickup systems become the standard by
>which all others are judged, he MIGHT eventually start marketing them through
>Western Auto, but I wouldn't count on it happening any time soon.....
The local Western Auto isn't doing too good. Maybe they need
to bring back their musical instruments. Guitar pickups might be a
way to broaden their market base.
George Gleason
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Chris is a very dedicated fellow--after suffering tremendously in the
marketing his pick-up he remains true to his vision. I have a good friend
who beta tests Chris's pick-ups and says there are none better
George Gleason
M Musement
My name is Christopher Grener. Sorry about my message being "terse". I was
attempting to be succinct. To be less so and to clarify things, I am not making
True Tone Sound products as such. I am simply offering to help anyone that
purchased the True Tone Sound products with repairs, parts and guidance. Many
aspects of the "M System" ideology were lost or misunderstood due to the
company's inablitiy to communicate them. I own a great deal of the
responsibility for this as True Tone Sound was an extension of what I knew
during the time that it existed. The experience comfirmed to me that:
. Technology changes, but holes are forever.
. One size never fits all.
. That there is no wrong or bad sound. All that matters in the end is if the
sound is what you want to hear.
. When one is faced with what really is, it is often what one does not want
either themselves or others to experience.
. Music is not created by a thing but by the heart.
. Everybody wants to go to heaven, nobody wants to die.
I have designed many things for many people. Some you have heard of, some
not. My company, Chamber Muse Ink, does a wide range of things, most of which
are related to either getting vibrations from something or into something. I
design sensors and systems that incorporate those sensors or other companies
sensors ("pickups") for the purpose of electronic amplification of musical
instruments. I design sensor systems for things as different as double bass, to
mando-cello, to violin, to marching band percussion pits. My sound system
designs range in complexity from one sensor to recording studios to PA's with
delay towers flown in a stadium.
One soapbox I preach from freqently has a bumper sticker on it that claims
that each pickup (transducer / sensor) has it's own "sound" as unique to
itself as the individual instrument and musician. I believe that only through
first fully understanding the strength and weakness of anything can one hope
use it to it's best advantage.
When designing a "pickup" system for someone, I believe one needs to let the
musician play their instrument for at least ten minutes while explaining how
they use it, what they like and dislike about the sound that they get and about
what the sound that they dream to get. This short interchange always
communicates encyclopedic volumes of information to me as I can translate
musician to luthier and to tech as I consider all to be all three.
I have found that many people (especially in the retail sales food chain) do
not care about the "how" and they maintain a fast food / plug and play /
instant gratification mentality driven equally by desire and ignorance.
I do care. I do not have all the answers. I do have some of them. I hope to
learn the others.
So, if I can be of any help to you or to anyone who purchased the True Tone
Sound products etc. please feel free to contact me at Chamber...@aol.com
AUDIOS,
Christopher
David
great post. I can really relate to what you said, and appreciate your
efforts to give your customers the best technical support despite being
downsized at the moment. I have heard really good things about the True
Tone, but have never had the chance to hear one first hand.
Someone told me that there was a political upset that caused True Tone to be
severely reduced in scope, and this had nothing to do with the performance
of the pickups. This is a bummer. I sincerely hope you find a way to get
back in the saddle with less complicated business structuring, and look
forward to meeting you someday at a show, festival, or other such event.
Respectfully,
David Enke
Pick-up the World
www.pick-uptheworld.com
pic...@rmi.net
800-375-2656
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M Musement
I checked out my CNY phone book and I am sad to report that there are no
Western Auto Supply stores in our area. I contacted a company called NAPA but
they have not returned my calls. I will let you know if they do.
Concerning your guitar with "bent nuts over the original" , it sounds like
something I would stay away from in a bar fight too.
Christopher Grener
Ken Cashion
Christopher, this is funny.
Thanks for the laugh.
M Musement
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>His name was Fleming, and he was a poor Scottish farmer. One day, while trying
>to make a living for his family, he heard a cry for help coming from a nearby
>bog.
>
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