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Don Mackie

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Oct 26, 2002, 6:36:51 PM10/26/02
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I just have to have a quiet rave. I've followed John Martyn's musical
journey since I saw him playing the Solid Air set at the Full Moon in
Putney.
The other night he was on telly on a show called "Songwriters Circle".
Made a couple of years ago but he's still pushing the boundaries. He
played some of his better known songs, May You Never and Sweet Little
Mystery. Sweet voice (for once) but a moody, muddy, humming, droning
percussive guitar. I suspect the guitar wasn't terribly in tune - but it
didn't matter. Love the man's work! No doubt others will disagree.

Off to detune and turn the treble way down....

--
"Any PC built after 1985 has the storage capacity to house an evil spirit,"
Reverend Jim Peasboro

David Sutton

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Oct 27, 2002, 4:44:27 AM10/27/02
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One of the most memorable concerts I ever went to was John Martyn at
the Regents Park open air theatre on a balmy summer Sunday evening. I
had a front row seat and the edges of my mind were pleasantly blured.

There is a book with about a dozen or so songs in. When I get home
I'll see if I can dig it out and post again with a little more info
(if nobody else has beaten me to it).

David Sutton


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Gary Hall

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Oct 27, 2002, 10:22:31 AM10/27/02
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No dissagreement here. I recall that John Martyn was a major influence
on many of my friends in the New England folk scene during the 70s.
All of those John Martyn devotees were pretty sophisticated players,
and one of them become a four-time runnerup at Winfield during the
80s.

More recently, one of my Ohio guitarist friends speculated that Dave
Matthews was heavily influenced by John Martyn. That seems improbable,
but maybe someone has heard of a connection.

Gary Hall

David Sutton

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Oct 27, 2002, 10:33:35 AM10/27/02
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The book I have is:

John Martyn for guitar tab
Wise Publications 1995
ISBN 0-7119-3753-2

it also says:
order no am91531

Songs are;

Angeline
Bless the weather
Couldn't love you more
Just now
May you never
One world
Over the hill
Send me one line
Solid air
Sweet little mystery

If you have any difficulty finding it let me know

Jim's Mail

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Oct 27, 2002, 4:04:36 PM10/27/02
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I've listened to John Martyn since he put out the Solid Air album way back
when. Interestingly I was walking through my favorite music store and saw a
John Martyn section but I didn't bite. I love his stuff, but early albums
and one I bought about 6 years ago pretty much sound the same. I wonder if
his newest still sounds the same as his original ones. Nothing wrong with
that I guess, but I like artists that push their creative envelope and he
seems quite comfortable with the groove he has found. I'm curious what
others think.

Jcarp

Nigel Tucker

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Oct 27, 2002, 4:19:30 PM10/27/02
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I love all his stuff, and he has been a big influence. Got the latest cd
called " Glasgow Walker", and I have to say, it is utter crap.

Recently been picking up his older cd s in the HMV sales, and they are ALL
brilliant. He also put out a cd called "Church with One Bell" which was a
series of covers, that's very good, get hold of a copy if you can


Peter MacDonald

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Oct 27, 2002, 9:41:15 PM10/27/02
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On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:04:36 -0500, Jim's Mail <jca...@starpower.net>
wrote:

>I've listened to John Martyn since he put out the Solid Air album way back
>when.

Does anyone know what tuning and/or chord shapes John used on one of
his earliest recorded songs, "Spencer the Rover"? I have loved his
version of this for 30 years.

Peter

Michael James Richard Brown

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Oct 28, 2002, 5:35:17 PM10/28/02
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On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:04:36 -0500, Jim's Mail <jca...@starpower.net>
wrote:

>I've listened to John Martyn since he put out the Solid Air album way back


>when. Interestingly I was walking through my favorite music store and saw a
>John Martyn section but I didn't bite. I love his stuff, but early albums
>and one I bought about 6 years ago pretty much sound the same. I wonder if
>his newest still sounds the same as his original ones. Nothing wrong with
>that I guess, but I like artists that push their creative envelope and he
>seems quite comfortable with the groove he has found. I'm curious what
>others think.
>
>Jcarp
>

It's a mixed thing. While it's nice to be able to buy a CD of your
favourite Rock band, and know that it's going to be in the style that
you have come to love, there does come a time when you think to
yourself, hell I've got 8 CDs (or whatever) of this lot, perhaps I
should buy something different. In other words, it's quite good from
the customers point of view, because you know what you're getting, but
it might not do the artist much good in the long run. On the other
hand, if someone that you like starts working in a style that you
don't like, you might get stuck with one CD that you don't like
(assuming that you've bought it thinking that it will be more of the
same), but you won't buy any more of that persons recordings. Swings
and roundabouts.
Michael B

Guy Snape

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Oct 29, 2002, 5:14:22 AM10/29/02
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"Nigel Tucker" <ntu...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Hi Nige, how you doing?

I'm also a big (figuratively speaking) JM fan, but most of the recent stuff
disappoints. Can't beat Solid Air/Inside Out/One World. What's on the covers
album?

- guy


Tim Purvis

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Oct 29, 2002, 2:43:49 PM10/29/02
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"Peter MacDonald" <pjm...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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The following web page has info on a number of songs, including a finger by
finger interpretation of Spencer the Rover that sounds pretty close to the
original.

http://www.hillarby.freeserve.co.uk/guitar.htm

The above site has a lot of info if you're looking to catch up on what
John's been up to since Solid Air. It seems he's laid up after a car crash
at the moment - had to cancel a UK tour.

I'm also a fan of JM from way back in the Solid Air Days and I have to say
that the recent stuff is different - some great some rotten but he is moving
forward - not just a greatest hits show by any means. I recall seeing him at
the Bottom Line in NYC back in the early 80's and he was truly scary - and
just a little "tired and emotional."

I enjoyed the "Church With One Bell" album of covers, especially the Bobby
Charles songs - a much underrated writer in my opinion. The one duffer I
thought was "Strange Fruit" - can't compare to the Robert Wyatt version (or
Ms. Holiday's original for that matter!)


Cheers,

Tim Purvis

Peter MacDonald

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Oct 29, 2002, 4:20:19 PM10/29/02
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On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:43:49 GMT, "Tim Purvis" <ti...@johneustice.com>
wrote:

>The following web page has info on a number of songs, including a finger by
>finger interpretation of Spencer the Rover that sounds pretty close to the
>original.
>
>http://www.hillarby.freeserve.co.uk/guitar.htm

Tim, I was the one enquiring about Spencer the Rover. Thanks very
much for this link.

Peter

Jim's Mail

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Oct 29, 2002, 7:52:58 PM10/29/02
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Yes, it is a dilemma, but I've learned over the years that I appreciate
experimentation and creativity and get bored with an artist coming out with
the same old stuff. Sometimes they lose me in that experimenation process,
but they are more apt to lose me if they don't. Not all musicians change
their musical style. Take Guy Clark for instance. He still uses the same 3
or 4 chords, many of the same musicians and pretty much the same song
structure. But his lyrics continue to evolve and he takes me places
lyrically with each outing that leave me glad that I joined him for that
journey. On the other hand, one of my favorite jazz guitarists, Martin
Taylor came out with an album a year or so ago that had many songs he did
with smooth jazz saxaphonist Kirk Whalum. I hate smooth jazz and rarely
listen to that CD. With someone like John Martyn, he has created his own
style, but I have never heard him depart from that style, so each album I
have heard sounds much the same to me. Oh well, can't win 'em all.

jcarp

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