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Larry Pattis

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Jan 14, 2004, 8:30:03 PM1/14/04
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Tom has decided he wants to be "pen pals" with me, despite my very
direct requests for him to cease and desist.

I have begun a dialogue with his ISP, and I am wondering if Tom has
been harrassing anyone else on RMMGA?

It might be amusing, although i get enough unwanted spam on a daily
basis....plus I don't need the refereneces to my recently deceased
father....

--
Larry Pattis
LP "at" LarryPattis "dot" com
Guitar Odyssey
http://www.LarryPattis.com

Bob Alman

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Jan 14, 2004, 8:34:12 PM1/14/04
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Larry Pattis <Larry...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Tom has decided he wants to be "pen pals" with me, despite my very
> direct requests for him to cease and desist.

> I have begun a dialogue with his ISP, and I am wondering if Tom has
> been harrassing anyone else on RMMGA?

> It might be amusing, although i get enough unwanted spam on a daily
> basis....plus I don't need the refereneces to my recently deceased
> father....

If he sends any more, post 'em. This is chicken shit.
--
Bob Alman

Sherm

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Jan 14, 2004, 8:33:27 PM1/14/04
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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:30:03 -0800, Larry Pattis
<Larry...@nospam.com> wrote:

> despite my very direct requests for him to cease and desist.

That's a drag, man. Mail filter?
Sherm

Larry Pattis

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Jan 14, 2004, 8:45:37 PM1/14/04
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In article <7drb00d8rca6qdk62...@4ax.com>, Sherm
<wheez...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


When I mentioned filtering his email his response was:

On 1/14/04 5:07 PM, "Tom Brosseau" <tbr...@charter.net> wrote:

> I have many email addresses. <<snip>>
> TB

I asked him politely to not email me. I did the same several months
ago, and there has been some respite. Today, however, there were a
few, and all designed to hurt or irritate me in some way.

Headers of "Could this be your dad?" are particularly unwelcomed, since
we buried my father in July.

All I want is for him to be a man, and to realize that his presence in
my email box is unwanted. One would think that he would be capable of
this....

Larry Pattis

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Jan 14, 2004, 9:04:43 PM1/14/04
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In article <o6mNb.8635$XF6.1...@typhoon.sonic.net>, Bob Alman
<g...@sonic.net> wrote:

>
> If he sends any more, post 'em. This is chicken shit.

Well, Bob, this was the fourth or fifth one...

On 1/14/04 5:54 PM, "Tom Brosseau" <tbr...@charter.net> wrote:

> Please do not threaten me, Larry. Your disparaging remarks and character
> assassination attempts on news groups has prompted me to contact you
> directly.
> I feel the same about you; you play only elevator music; and you are a
> whiner. In the animal world, you would not have lived past 5 years of age.
> Please go ahead and block my email address so that you can say things about
> me in public that you will not discuss in private.
> Tom
>
> PS: Harassment only has 1 "r."
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Pattis [mailto:LP@
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 7:20 PM
> To: Tom Brosseau
> Subject: FW: Threats & Harrassment [#2639336]
>
>
> If you continue to send me email from other email addresses, then I will
> continue to file complaints with your ISP.
>
> Soon you will be looking for a new ISP.
>
> I don't want email from you, I don't think you're funny, and I don't like
> you.

Steve Hawkins

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Jan 14, 2004, 9:07:01 PM1/14/04
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Larry Pattis <Larry...@nospam.com> wrote in
news:140120041745378461%Larry...@nospam.com:

>
> When I mentioned filtering his email his response was:
>
> On 1/14/04 5:07 PM, "Tom Brosseau" <tbr...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> I have many email addresses. <<snip>>
>> TB

Tyrone? And no, I'm not trying to be funny.

Steve Hawkins

J. Mark Lane

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Jan 14, 2004, 9:49:49 PM1/14/04
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Call the police, Larry. Call the local police in his town. Call the local
police in your town. And report him to the FBI. They have special
departments for creeps like this.

Mark

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J. Mark Lane

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Jan 14, 2004, 9:52:36 PM1/14/04
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Also, if there is any doubt about his identity, I would request that anyone
with an address for this guy let us know. It makes service of process
easier, and Internet fraud can be a federal cause of action.

Mark


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Big Bone Bailey

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Jan 14, 2004, 10:32:47 PM1/14/04
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Larry Pattis wrote:

Larry, I'm with Mark. Get it on record that you have asked him to leave you
alone.

Tony

--
I ate the last mango in Paris
Took the last plane out of Saigon
Took the first fast boat to China
And there's still so much to be done.

-Jimmy Buffett-

Remove "MY HEAD" to reply


Dorgan

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Jan 14, 2004, 11:37:17 PM1/14/04
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"Larry Pattis" <Larry...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Tom has decided he wants to be "pen pals" with me, despite my very
> direct requests for him to cease and desist.
>
> I have begun a dialogue with his ISP, and I am wondering if Tom has
> been harrassing anyone else on RMMGA?
>
> It might be amusing, although i get enough unwanted spam on a daily
> basis....plus I don't need the refereneces to my recently deceased
> father....
>


Hey Larry,
He made references to your Dad?
That's beyond contempt.
I don't screw around with people like that.
Give him a warning and if he refuses to cease, turn the bastard in.

Bob Dorgan

Lee D

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Jan 14, 2004, 11:59:44 PM1/14/04
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"J. Mark Lane" wrote

> Call the police, Larry. Call the local police in his town. Call the
local
> police in your town. And report him to the FBI. They have special
> departments for creeps like this.
>
> Mark
>

Yes, Larry, please do.

I wish someone here had some info on him.

Lee D


No Busking

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Jan 15, 2004, 6:43:09 AM1/15/04
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> Tom has decided he wants to be "pen pals" with me, despite my
> very direct requests for him to cease and desist.
>
> I have begun a dialogue with his ISP, and I am wondering if Tom
> has been harrassing anyone else on RMMGA?
>
> It might be amusing, although i get enough unwanted spam on a
> daily basis....plus I don't need the refereneces to my recently
> deceased father....

Is he sending you emails consecutively, or is he hitting reply when you
respond? If the former, he's harassing you if you've asked him to stop. If
the latter, you need to stop if you expect him to.

Yes, I received an email from Tom a few days ago. We corresponded briefly
and disagreed. When he sent the last email, I didn't respond (nothing
offensive in it, there just wasn't anything else to say). I've not heard
back from him...it was no big deal, and certainly not harassment.

I'm sorry about the references to your father...I haven't seen what was
written, so can't pass any judgment on whether it was meant to hurt. If so,
that's unconscionable.

- Mike Pugh


Tom Reese

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Jan 15, 2004, 7:11:46 AM1/15/04
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I would think that a restraining order is appropriate. Any further contact
would then be cause for prosecution.

Tom Reese

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A Nengineer

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"Larry Pattis" <Larry...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Tom has decided he wants to be "pen pals" with me,...

Who?


Hans Andersson

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Jan 15, 2004, 10:49:38 AM1/15/04
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"No Busking" <nobu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:

<(snipped)


> Yes, I received an email from Tom a few days ago. We corresponded briefly
> and disagreed. When he sent the last email, I didn't respond (nothing
> offensive in it, there just wasn't anything else to say). I've not heard
> back from him...it was no big deal, and certainly not harassment.
>
> I'm sorry about the references to your father...I haven't seen what was
> written, so can't pass any judgment on whether it was meant to hurt. If so,
> that's unconscionable.
>
> - Mike Pugh

Larry, Mike

I have also received unsolicitted emails from Tom Brosseau, usually
about Bush or some irritating political crap. I have bounced his email
addresss from my inbox and haven';t received another in the past days
since his last "missive". He's obviously on a tear to anger as many
people as he can. I have simply stopped responding but I understand
the hurtful nature of his posts to you, Larry. My condolences for your
the loss of your Dad.

hans

Hans Andersson

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Jan 15, 2004, 10:57:23 AM1/15/04
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I spoke too soon. An email response to a previous email to him had an
mpg attachment of military (I presume) shooting humans and the
soundtrack of the shooters. Really sick. We've got a problem.

hans

Joe Jordan

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Jan 15, 2004, 11:53:05 AM1/15/04
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Lee D wrote:

Is this not the guy?

<http://www.swearingen.com/people/tBrosseau.html>

Joe

Chris Rockcliffe

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Jan 15, 2004, 12:17:06 PM1/15/04
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Joe Jordan15/1/04 4:53 PM

Holy crapola!

If it is, he's got a lot to lose if anyone wanted to get a bit malicious.

Tom if you're reading this - just get a fuckin' grip!

CR

No Busking

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Jan 15, 2004, 12:16:18 PM1/15/04
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Hans wrote:
> We've got a problem.


Who's we? I don't have a problem.

- Mike Pugh


Steve Hawkins

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Jan 15, 2004, 12:20:07 PM1/15/04
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Joe Jordan <jjo...@hotpop.com> wrote in
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hmmm...his handle is "South Texas". I'm not sure if Dallas qualifies. If
that is him I really wonder about Bi-Polar issues. Let's be careful here
folks.

Steve Hawkins

Steve Hawkins

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Jan 15, 2004, 12:25:12 PM1/15/04
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"No Busking" <nobu...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Mike, go to the nearest mirror. :-)

Steve Hawkins

Bob Dorgan

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Jan 15, 2004, 12:26:11 PM1/15/04
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"No Busking" wrote:


> I don't have a problem.
>
> - Mike Pugh

Finally found a hat to fit, eh?
Dorgan


Bob Dorgan

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Jan 15, 2004, 12:27:40 PM1/15/04
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"Steve Hawkins" <res0...@verizon.netREMOVETHIS> wrote in message
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That was harsh, Hooterboy.
Dorgan


No Busking

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Jan 15, 2004, 12:30:37 PM1/15/04
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> > I don't have a problem.
> >
> > - Mike Pugh
>
> Finally found a hat to fit, eh?
> Dorgan


It was easy...I just used the rim from an oil drum, and built a paper mache'
bowler on top of it.

- Mike


No Busking

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Jan 15, 2004, 12:32:30 PM1/15/04
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> > Who's we? I don't have a problem.
> >
> > - Mike Pugh
>
> Mike, go to the nearest mirror. :-)


Don't have any wide enough.

How do you keep small animals from nesting in those nostrils? I'm assuming
that you just shoot the larger animals...

- Mike


Larry Pattis

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Jan 15, 2004, 12:32:33 PM1/15/04
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Thanks to all for their commentary.

Tom is not a danger to me, I just wanted him to stop sending malicious
emails...especially when he commented about using multiple email
accounts to do so.

He is also not a stranger to me, since I had helped him (about a year
ago, or so...) with some knowledge about certain high-end luthiers.
Long story....

Bottom line is that he has stopped emailing.

That's all I want.

Thanks again...

Joe Jordan

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Jan 15, 2004, 12:37:23 PM1/15/04
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No Busking wrote:

He shows them a picture of your head, silly.

Joe

Steve Hawkins

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Jan 15, 2004, 12:55:38 PM1/15/04
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Joe Jordan <jjo...@hotpop.com> wrote in
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Dang! Beat me to it.

Steve Hawkins

Steve Hawkins

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Jan 15, 2004, 12:56:39 PM1/15/04
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"Bob Dorgan" <dor...@fltg.net> wrote in
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My bad... :-)

Steve Hawkins

Chris Rockcliffe

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Jan 15, 2004, 1:06:23 PM1/15/04
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Joe Jordan15/1/04 5:37 PM

All this talk about you guys and your strange features reminds me... I
haven't seen that great movie, "The Elephant Man", for many years.

CR

misifus

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Jan 15, 2004, 1:04:03 PM1/15/04
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I think, Steve, that, like Sorell, he hails from South Texas, but
has long since left those parts. I'm pretty sure Dallas is right.

-Raf


--
Misifus-
Rafael Seibert
mailto:rsei...@cox-internet.com
http://www.ralphandsue.com

Dick Thaxter

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Jan 15, 2004, 1:19:47 PM1/15/04
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Yes, that's him.

Dick Thaxter

Steve Hawkins

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Jan 15, 2004, 1:55:44 PM1/15/04
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Dick Thaxter <rt...@loc.gov> wrote in news:4006D9C3...@loc.gov:

Sheesh, I am totally surprised. Why are some people so different from
their public personalities when they go online? It's a real shame.

Steve Hawkins

Chris Rockcliffe

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Jan 15, 2004, 2:35:27 PM1/15/04
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Steve Hawkins15/1/04 6:55 PM

> Dick Thaxter <rt...@loc.gov> wrote in news:4006D9C3...@loc.gov:

>> Yes, that's him.


>>
>> Dick Thaxter
>
> Sheesh, I am totally surprised. Why are some people so different from
> their public personalities when they go online? It's a real shame.

Well, you rightfully urged some caution yourself earlier Steve, citing
possible mental problems... but all kinds of things come into this -
including life, health, work and marriage problems - and just combined
stress of course.

Damn it, if we don't ALL get a taste of that shit at some time in our lives.
Let's hope that's an end to it for now.

What is even more sad... if such possibilities above are the case...? is
that this place can be and usually is such a broadly welcoming and
supportive environment for people with all kinds of problems or going
through life's dreadful traumas.

Why else would a guy who's lost his beloved daughter in a auto accident post
through tear-filled eyes in here within a few hours of her death? ...or
yourself - or others like you - when you posted about your father's sudden
death only a few weeks back??

I don't know how many countless times I've seen it and felt it here...
despite any political or religious differences we may have, this cyberspace
is a place of great genuine sympathy, support and friendship. Long may it
last.

...Except of course for Ovation owners and banjo pluckers...

...No

- seriously it really IS!!

CR

Jeff M

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Jan 15, 2004, 3:37:28 PM1/15/04
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"A Nengineer" <st...@polhemus.cc> wrote in message news:<SfyNb.9997$1e....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...

> "Larry Pattis" <Larry...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:140120041730036741%Larry...@nospam.com...
> > Tom has decided he wants to be "pen pals" with me,...


I know that the 13th fret forum had similar problems with this fellow
sometime last year. This is not new behavior. If I am not mistaken one
of the members of that forum has met Tom and may have his street
address. If you decide to take this to the police I suggest you head
over there and ask around.

Sheltech

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Chris Rockcliffe <chrisro...@scripto99.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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I can't even watch that movie, now you've really scared me away from those gatherings (^#

"Dogboy" Shelton


JD

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"Steve Hawkins" <res0...@verizon.netREMOVETHIS> wrote in message
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Are you so sure he's different? Commercial real estate developers *do* have
a tendency to be assholes in my experience.

JD


foldedpath

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"JD" <jdbnos...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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I was really trying to stay out of this, but now I can't resist. Check
this out:

http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2000-08-03/news2.html

Here's the gem at the heart of the article:

"Why should we have confidence that he'll follow the rules?"
Beving asks. "Isn't it amazing that this real estate man wakes
up one day, rolls up his sleeves, and decides he wants to get
into the trash business?"


P.S. I'm not naive enough to think that big cities don't need landfills.
I just think that was a hilarious comment, with obvious relevance to his
RMMGA posting history.

--
Mike Barrs

Larry Pattis

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Jan 15, 2004, 5:48:30 PM1/15/04
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foldedpath <mba...@NOSPAM.nightviewer.com> wrote:

> I was really trying to stay out of this, but now I can't resist. Check
> this out:
>
> http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2000-08-03/news2.html
>
> Here's the gem at the heart of the article:
>
> "Why should we have confidence that he'll follow the rules?"
> Beving asks. "Isn't it amazing that this real estate man wakes
> up one day, rolls up his sleeves, and decides he wants to get
> into the trash business?"
>
>
> P.S. I'm not naive enough to think that big cities don't need landfills.
> I just think that was a hilarious comment, with obvious relevance to his
> RMMGA posting history.

Heck, I think this was the funniest thing:


"Brosseau refused the Dallas Observer 's repeated requests for an
interview, but has told the The Dallas Morning News and McKinney
Courier-Gazette at different times that the landfill would be full in
12 to 15 years, 10 to 15 years, or five to seven years. "


They can come here and interview Tom, or at least get some insight into
his real character....

George W.

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Jan 15, 2004, 5:55:22 PM1/15/04
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:29:58 -0000, foldedpath wrote:

>I was really trying to stay out of this, but now I can't resist. Check
>this out:
>
>http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2000-08-03/news2.html

Just to be clear, this article is from August 2000.

G.

Sleepy Fingers Jones

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Jan 15, 2004, 6:23:36 PM1/15/04
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Nah, I think we should just go after the bastard...:-)

P

John Sorell

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Jan 15, 2004, 6:29:42 PM1/15/04
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misifus <rsei...@cox-internet.com> wrote in
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Boy Ralph, I sure appreciate the association you just made.

John

Jeff M

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Jan 15, 2004, 6:47:30 PM1/15/04
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"A Nengineer" <st...@polhemus.cc> wrote in message news:<SfyNb.9997$1e....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
> "Larry Pattis" <Larry...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:140120041730036741%Larry...@nospam.com...
> > Tom has decided he wants to be "pen pals" with me,...
>
> Who?

Good question. At one point in his 13th fret sojurn Tom decided to get
another on-line personality involved in some discussion without
informing the forum of his schizoid break. The moderator discovered
the ploy by comparing ISP adresses (I believe). Everybody had a good
laugh-not WITH Tom, but AT him ;).

Z. Skarland

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Jan 15, 2004, 6:57:51 PM1/15/04
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"Jeff M" <mur...@t-link.net> wrote in message news:3100d3cc.04011...@posting.google.com...

Yea, he adopted his evil twin personna "Golden Boy", with sort of
drive by snide remarks here for a while. - zeke

paul asbell

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foldedpath wrote:

>
>
>I was really trying to stay out of this, but now I can't resist. Check
>this out:
>
>http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2000-08-03/news2.html
>
>Here's the gem at the heart of the article:
>
> "Why should we have confidence that he'll follow the rules?"
> Beving asks. "Isn't it amazing that this real estate man wakes
> up one day, rolls up his sleeves, and decides he wants to get
> into the trash business?"
>
>
>P.S. I'm not naive enough to think that big cities don't need landfills.
>I just think that was a hilarious comment, with obvious relevance to his
>RMMGA posting history.
>
>
>

This is an interesting bit for some of us who've observed Tom in action
over the years here, and also on the 13th Fret.

We all knew he could "talk trash" with the best of 'em... seems like he
can do more than just TALK it.

Talk about walking the walk!...:)

Paul

Tom from Texas

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Jan 15, 2004, 7:37:46 PM1/15/04
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>> I think, Steve, that, like Sorell, he hails from South Texas, but
>> has long since left those parts. I'm pretty sure Dallas is right.
>>
>> -Raf
>
>Boy Ralph, I sure appreciate the association you just made.
>
>John
>
>

Good gobs of goose grease, John!! Ralph has never bad-mouthed me like that and
I deserve it.

My condolences,
Tom from Texas

Dorgan

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Jan 15, 2004, 8:26:35 PM1/15/04
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"George W." <geo_remove...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Does that mean the landfill only has 5, 9 or 13 years of useful life left?
Dorgan


Ed Edelenbos

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Jan 15, 2004, 8:47:33 PM1/15/04
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Dorgan wrote:

> Does that mean the landfill only has 5, 9 or 13 years of useful life left?
> Dorgan
>

Yes.

HTH.
Ed

Chris Rockcliffe

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paul asbell16/1/04 12:12 AM

> foldedpath wrote:

>> I was really trying to stay out of this, but now I can't resist. Check
>> this out:
>> http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2000-08-03/news2.html

> This is an interesting bit for some of us who've observed Tom in action


> over the years here, and also on the 13th Fret.

> We all knew he could "talk trash" with the best of 'em... seems like he
> can do more than just TALK it.
> Talk about walking the walk!...:)

This is revealing FWIW. I suspect another possible way to deal with any
more stupid pestering e-mail behaviour has now emerged. Whatever dirt he
crawls around in to make himself rich is another thing entirely.

I hold the opposite views to his in every respect. He has insisted on
taunting people here by posting any third-hand hack racist, fascist garbage
he comes across again and again for ages now. I stopped posting here or
even lurking for a while, because of it. The guy is a total arsehole with a
head full of really hateful shite IMO.

When people here have asked him to stop he has ignored them. When they have
responded to his trolling posts in an intelligent manner, he's invariably
shown downright rudeness, unnecessary personal abuse and sometimes nasty but
sometimes almost childish stuff.

In real life, he'd likely have been hospitalised several times for what he's
said to many folk in here. Personally, I think he's a few cards short of a
full deck - whatever. I'd be happy if he just fucked off for good.

CR

Jeff M

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Jan 15, 2004, 9:12:36 PM1/15/04
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> > > > Tom has decided he wants to be "pen pals" with me,...
> > >
> > > Who?
> >
> >
> >
> > Good question. At one point in his 13th fret sojurn Tom decided to get
> > another on-line personality involved in some discussion without
> > informing the forum of his schizoid break. The moderator discovered
> > the ploy by comparing ISP adresses (I believe). Everybody had a good
> > laugh-not WITH Tom, but AT him ;).
>
> Yea, he adopted his evil twin personna "Golden Boy", with sort of
> drive by snide remarks here for a while. - zeke

Sad.....

Norman Draper

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Jan 15, 2004, 10:26:28 PM1/15/04
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Hey Chris....
I know that "me, too" posts aren't really kosher, but man..... I
couldn't agree with you more. If one can't get along with people here, at
least in some sense of the phrase, where CAN one get along?
I sure do like rmmga world, even if Dorgan hangs around here, too....

Norman (I Don't Know When That Road Turned Onto...) Draper


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Mat777rix

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Jan 15, 2004, 10:45:03 PM1/15/04
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Hey Chris , I like what Jerry Seinfeld said...."there was a LOT of chlorine in
that gene pool" hehe..
>Personally, I think he's a few cards
short of a
>full deck -
>
>CR


Joe Jordan

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Jan 15, 2004, 10:41:29 PM1/15/04
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No Busking wrote:

>> > I don't have a problem.
>> >
>> > - Mike Pugh
>>

>> Finally found a hat to fit, eh?
>> Dorgan
>
>
>It was easy...I just used the rim from an oil drum, and built a paper mache'
>bowler on top of it.

Hmmm...maybe Dorgan could use this technique to build
himself a prosthetic ass.

Joe

misifus

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Jan 15, 2004, 11:52:25 PM1/15/04
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I apologize, John. I wasn't trying to make any connection beyond
the geographical one, and the fact that someone meeting you would
not assume from your speech or manner that you were a native of
South Texas.

In your behavior, you are the antithesis of Tom.

Steve Hawkins

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misifus <rsei...@cox-internet.com> wrote in news:40076E09.4000101@cox-
internet.com:

> I apologize, John. I wasn't trying to make any connection beyond
> the geographical one, and the fact that someone meeting you would
> not assume from your speech or manner that you were a native of
> South Texas.
>

> -Raf
>

He's got Jimmy Johnson's hair.

Steve Hawkins

Sheltech

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Joe Jordan <jjo...@hotpop.com> wrote in message news:h3ne0056chbbceftj...@4ax.com...

Already lost that one Brittney bought him, eh? .
Maybe he could go do her again.....

D


Sherm

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Jan 16, 2004, 6:16:29 AM1/16/04
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:52:25 -0600, misifus
<rsei...@cox-internet.com> wrote:

>In your behavior, you are the antithesis of Tom.

Only a pinhead would say "antithesis."
(Mitch probably says that.)
Sherm

misifus

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Jan 16, 2004, 8:19:42 AM1/16/04
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Actually, just as I hit the send button, I thought, "John may not
like this, should I have used Ken Cashion, instead? Nah!"

-Raf (antithetical to pinheads)

Hans Andersson

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Chris Rockcliffe <chrisro...@scripto99.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<BC2CF7FD.2F038%chrisro...@scripto99.demon.co.uk>...
(snipped)

> In real life, he'd likely have been hospitalised several times for what he's
> said to many folk in here. Personally, I think he's a few cards short of a
> full deck - whatever. I'd be happy if he just fucked off for good.
>
> CR

Gee, CR, I think when I suggsted this in prior posts you chose to call
my suggestion "too much" . Glad you agree that he needs to go.

hans

Steve Hawkins

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Jan 16, 2004, 10:48:26 AM1/16/04
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han...@tulane.edu (Hans Andersson) wrote in
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Different people draw the Line in different places. Tom has finally
crossed Chris'.

Steve Hawkins

Josiah Cod

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Jan 16, 2004, 11:12:40 AM1/16/04
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Sherm wrote: "Only a pinhead would say 'antithesis.'

Dear Sherm,

I believe that a pinhead would say : "prosthesis," but I have not had the opportunity to speak with one directly, so this must be
taken only as a hypothesis ... .unless you are speaking from direct experience as a practicing pinhead yourself ? I have a friend
who has a steel plate in his head, held in place by steel pins, courtesy of friendly fire near Da Nang in 1968. I once asked him if
he thought of himself as a "multiple pin-head," and he said "no."

I apologize in advance if I have offended everybody only slightly.

sincerely, Josiah Cod

"Cod bless you"


A Nengineer

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"Josiah Cod" <ca...@cod.com> wrote in message
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> Sherm wrote: "Only a pinhead would say 'antithesis.'

> I believe that a pinhead would say : "prosthesis," but I have not had the


opportunity to speak with one directly, so this must be

I am the antithesis of a prosthesis.


Chris Rockcliffe

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Jan 16, 2004, 11:32:22 AM1/16/04
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Hans Andersson16/1/04 3:30 PM

Hans,

I'm not quite sure what post of mine that was, but I'd like to know 'cos
this guy has pissed me off since day one and I can't imagine I would defend
the indefensible. Willing to be proven wrong though.

Steve, This is Usenet, but I can assure you he crossed my line a looooong
time ago. I was out of this NG for a while this year precisely because of
his posts and others like them.

CR

Bob Dorgan

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"Chris Rockcliffe" <chrisro...@scripto99.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Water under the bridge... I'm glad you're back.
I miss my Limey friends!
Give Nigel a kiss from me.
I'd send a kiss to Magnus too, but I know he prefers to kiss 4 legged
creatures over the 2 legged.
Bob Dorgan

John Sorell

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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>hmmm...his handle is "South Texas". I'm not sure if Dallas
> >>>qualifies. If that is him I really wonder about Bi-Polar issues.
> >>>Let's be careful here folks.
> >>
> >>I think, Steve, that, like Sorell, he hails from South Texas, but
> >>has long since left those parts. I'm pretty sure Dallas is right.
> >>
> >> -Raf
> >
> >
> > Boy Ralph, I sure appreciate the association you just made.
> >
> > John
>
>
> I apologize, John. I wasn't trying to make any connection beyond
> the geographical one, and the fact that someone meeting you would
> not assume from your speech or manner that you were a native of
> South Texas.
>
> In your behavior, you are the antithesis of Tom.
>
> -Raf

Whew! Thanks. I'm putting the gun down and I'm feeling good about myself again.

John

John Sorell

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Steve Hawkins <res0...@verizon.netREMOVETHIS> wrote in message news:<Xns9471D8C86453Br...@199.45.49.11>...

It torques my butt when they pour Gatoraid on my hair. I have to get
out my Binford 4000, 10 horsepower, hairdryer....

John

Lee D

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Jan 16, 2004, 12:59:56 PM1/16/04
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Steve wrote the following:

> >
> >
> > hmmm...his handle is "South Texas". I'm not sure if Dallas qualifies.
If
> > that is him I really wonder about Bi-Polar issues. Let's be careful
here
> > folks.

Then Raf wrote this:


>
> I think, Steve, that, like Sorell, he hails from South Texas, but
> has long since left those parts. I'm pretty sure Dallas is right.

You know, if he treated a few of the good ol' boys around here the same, he
may of had to leave this here area.

Lee D


Hans Andersson

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Jan 16, 2004, 5:38:46 PM1/16/04
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Hey Chris,

My blunder. When I checked the thread (Andy Rooney) it was George W,
whoever that is. It went like this but Dorgan is right, water under
the bridge.

I wrote:
"It is my most fervent hope never to have to meet you in person. A
conversation about anything but all the stupid stuff you have posted
here would be impossible.

When will you stop painting a bullseye on your chest and just try to
learn to be a better person? Why would you ever have considered
posting the fake Rooney diatribe, even if you did think it was real??
When will you recoginze the enormous bad judgement that you continue
to demonstrate in your posts all of which have nothing to do with
music?? I know you will never respond to these questions, reasonable
though they are.

I am perceiving a newly recognized clinical disorder which I propose
to be called inappropriate need for internet persecution. Oh, well, it
will probably just fall under the category of sociopath."

George W responded:
"OK, too much.....

I don't recall ever agreeing with anything Tom has posted but anyone
who thinks he's the worst thing to happen to Usenet needs to get out
more. He's certainly guilty of button-pushing but he's not the only
one. And, unlike some people, the guy can take a punch. I don't defend
the stuff he posts, especially the phony Andy Rooney crap, but in the
context of Usenet it doesn't amount to much.

G."

You then agreed:
"True.

CR"

But, I am being petty, I recognize that. Just sorry that it has taken
this long to collect opinions that Tom should be run out of town. I
know that is anathema (can I use that word?) on this group so I
decided to check out instead. I am lurking but still enjoying the
occasional on topic post. Sorry to have wrongly accused you, memory
slip.

hans

Dorgan

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"A Nengineer" <st...@polhemus.cc> wrote

> I am the antithesis of a prosthesis.


I think I just found my ass.
Dorgan


Sleepy Fingers Jones

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Jan 16, 2004, 6:47:01 PM1/16/04
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I didn't think your arms were that long...

P

madgamer

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I for one would be disappointed to see you go. I have found you
information and comments , with there historical bent to be excellent.
DO NOT LET FOLK'S LIKE THIS drive you away because they win and al of us
loose. Put me down as your number 1 fan.
lARRY

John Sorell

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Jan 16, 2004, 7:23:15 PM1/16/04
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<snip>

>
> But, I am being petty, I recognize that. Just sorry that it has taken
> this long to collect opinions that Tom should be run out of town. I
> know that is anathema (can I use that word?) on this group so I
> decided to check out instead. I am lurking but still enjoying the
> occasional on topic post. Sorry to have wrongly accused you, memory
> slip.
>
> hans

Only a pinhead would say anathema. You didn't mean enema did you?

Sherm

John Sorell

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Jan 16, 2004, 7:24:35 PM1/16/04
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madgamer <madg...@mchsi.com> wrote in
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I also missed your presence here.

John

Mondoslug1

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Jan 16, 2004, 7:29:37 PM1/16/04
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what is a Tom Brosseau?

Michael Dunnigan

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Jan 16, 2004, 7:54:47 PM1/16/04
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>Only a pinhead would say anathema. You didn't mean enema did you?

"...If you'll be my enema I'll be your enema too..."

Wasn't that by the Waterboys? Man that's a dirty song!

Pass the bong...

MD
Cheers

Michael D

WeeGreenGuitar

Sleepy Fingers Jones

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Jan 16, 2004, 8:05:10 PM1/16/04
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On 17 Jan 2004 00:24:35 GMT, John Sorell
<j.sorellS...@comcast.net> wrote:

I didn't. I was glad to see the back of the verbose old windbag for a
couple of weeks.

Pete

No Busking

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Jan 16, 2004, 8:07:37 PM1/16/04
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> But, I am being petty, I recognize that.

Ya think?

Hans...Tom only has as much power as you give him. I don't give a shit
whether he's run out of town or not, since I'm free to ignore him if I don't
like what he has to say.

It's Usenet. We have no control over who posts here or what they say.
There is nothing you can do to "run" ANYone off here, unless they are being
truly threatening or causing harm in some way. Disagreeing with their
politics and throwing yourself into apoplexy over your disapproval of their
lifestyle doesn't qualify.

If you can't handle that simple fact, you might be a happier person if you
avoid Usenet altogether. George was right...Tom isn't even in the same
league as the "worst" of Usenet.

Please stop assuming that you speak for anyone other than yourself when you
say things like "Just sorry that it has taken this long to collect opinions


that Tom should be run out of town."

Frankly, I find you at least as irritating as he is...and I'm pretty fucking
sick of your habit of speaking for me.

- Mike


George W.

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Jan 16, 2004, 10:07:30 PM1/16/04
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I'm George W, Hans. Whoever you are. Pleased to meet you.

I stand by what I said, and I have no problem being rightly "accused"
by you for saying it. It was a comment on the latest Brosseau
Brouhaha, or more specifically the continued responses to it by people
who presumably know better. Tom himself bowed out very early after
laying out the bait. I'm sure he's having a good laugh over it.

Actually I find posts by Brosseau and Polemus a lot easier to laugh
off than some of the embarrassing self-righteous nonsense posted by
folks on my side of the fence who presume to speak for me or anyone
else on the left. This would include comments like, oh I don't know,
calling someone on the right a sociopath who should be run out of
town. That kind of thing.

I think you're all full of shit. Entertaining, but full of shit.

G.

Steve Hawkins

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Jan 16, 2004, 10:49:53 PM1/16/04
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Okay, okay! Time for a group hug.

Hey! Who's grabbing my ass?

Steve Hawkins

Hans Andersson

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Jan 16, 2004, 11:07:36 PM1/16/04
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madgamer <madg...@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:<2T_Nb.81439$8H.118114@attbi_s03>...

> I for one would be disappointed to see you go. I have found you
> information and comments , with there historical bent to be excellent.
> DO NOT LET FOLK'S LIKE THIS drive you away because they win and al of us
> loose. Put me down as your number 1 fan.
> lARRY
I assume you are replying to my post to Chris. Nice of you to say,
Larry. I'll be around.
hans

Ed Edelenbos

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Jan 16, 2004, 11:14:19 PM1/16/04
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Steve Hawkins wrote:

I'll give you one guess... who here has "ass envy"?

Ed

Steve Hawkins

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Jan 16, 2004, 11:56:47 PM1/16/04
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Ed Edelenbos <ed...@spameasy.net> wrote in news:CeOdnQbYOsBqK5XdRVn-
v...@speakeasy.net:

Sherman?

Steve Hawkins

Dorgan

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Jan 17, 2004, 1:50:07 AM1/17/04
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"George W." wrote:
snipped

> I think you're all full of shit. Entertaining, but full of shit.
>
> G.

Hey George,
Can I use this at the next school board meeting?
Bob Dorgan

Mike brown

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Jan 17, 2004, 4:16:01 AM1/17/04
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In article <100gqim...@corp.supernews.com>, "Dorgan"
<dor...@fltg.net> wrote:

> "A Nengineer" <st...@polhemus.cc> wrote


a prosthesis.
>
I've got two of those.
MJRB

A Nengineer

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Jan 17, 2004, 8:18:20 AM1/17/04
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"Dorgan" <dor...@fltg.net> wrote in message
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Good, good. Now, if you will work carefully, you can easily extract the
jawbone, and the fun can begin.


Chris Rockcliffe

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Jan 17, 2004, 9:29:55 AM1/17/04
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Sleepy Fingers Jones17/1/04 1:05 AM

Yeah, and thanks for standing in for me, Pete.

CR
:-)

George W.

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Jan 17, 2004, 11:33:27 AM1/17/04
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Feel free, Bob. <g> Sorry about the mini-rant. Being referred to as
"whoever that is" kinda pushes my buttons, suggesting that the value
of a persons opinion is measured by whether he knows the secret RMMGA
handshake or not. I think I may be a little cranky lately since I
dropped off my new Ultrasound to Doc a few weeks ago and haven't heard
anything yet. <g> With the holidays and NAMM it wasn't the best
timing. He should be back this week.

G.

Sherm

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Jan 17, 2004, 1:15:38 PM1/17/04
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 16:12:40 GMT, "Josiah Cod" <ca...@cod.com> wrote:

>Sherm wrote: "Only a pinhead would say 'antithesis.'
>
>Dear Sherm,
>
> I believe that a pinhead would say : "prosthesis," but I have not had the opportunity to speak with one directly

Hey, you've got my email.

I gigged last night and it occurred to me that if any of you good
people watched my load-out you'd have been absolutely horrified. I
unplug everything and set the big stuff and stands out of the way
leaving all the cables on the floor. Then I just pull those all
together in a big wad and stuff it in the bag. It takes 10 seconds.
I'm untangling all the spaghetti right now, aamof. Definitely the
work of a pinhead.

Sherm

Hans Andersson

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Jan 17, 2004, 1:44:12 PM1/17/04
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"No Busking" <nobu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<tV%Nb.1324$Fp1.6...@news1.news.adelphia.net>...

> > But, I am being petty, I recognize that.
>
> Ya think?
>
> Hans...Tom only has as much power as you give him. I don't give a shit
> whether he's run out of town or not, since I'm free to ignore him if I don't
> like what he has to say.

Yeah, all very interesting, Mike. You have and continue to pay undue
"attention" to my posts while ignoring those of Tom. Interesting to
speculate on the criteria you use in choosing the posters you hold in
the highest on contempt. You have always held me in the highest of
contempt. Not a problem for me.

>
> It's Usenet. We have no control over who posts here or what they say.
> There is nothing you can do to "run" ANYone off here, unless they are being
> truly threatening or causing harm in some way. Disagreeing with their
> politics and throwing yourself into apoplexy over your disapproval of their
> lifestyle doesn't qualify.

Here's the double standard, Mike: it's usenet so anybody can post
anything they like, but I'm Hans so I should shut up. Gee, Mike all I
was doing is expressing my opinion about the opinions I didn;t agree
with. But you have always had a problem with my posts as I have with
Tom's so it's even harder to take you seriously. I don;t guess that
was your intetnion anyway.

>
> If you can't handle that simple fact, you might be a happier person if you
> avoid Usenet altogether. George was right...Tom isn't even in the same
> league as the "worst" of Usenet.

What do you know about my happiness??

>
> Please stop assuming that you speak for anyone other than yourself when you
> say things like "Just sorry that it has taken this long to collect opinions
> that Tom should be run out of town."

I don;t speak for you or anyone but myself. I was commenting on the
fact that many people had an opinion about Tom;'s posts. I hav never
spoken for others but I guess I would ask you to stop putting words in
my mouth.

>
> Frankly, I find you at least as irritating as he is...and I'm pretty fucking
> sick of your habit of speaking for me.
> - Mike

Agreed: You are pretty fucking sick. You seem to be "throwing yourself
into apoplexy" over my posts. Doesn't much matter to me. I have never
spoken for you much as you seem to keep fantasizing about this. Don't
go "throwing yourself into apoplexy" over it. We don;t have anything
to say to each other. I won't be missing our conversations.

hans

Dorgan

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"Sherm" <wheez...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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The "wad 'em up and stuff 'em in the bag load-out" is usually only used in
certain circumstances...
Was she hot?
Dorgan


AGonda

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Jan 17, 2004, 5:41:59 PM1/17/04
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han...@tulane.edu (Hans Andersson) wrote in message news:<86fb677e.04011...@posting.google.com>...

I think that Dr. Anderson is the most negative person on this group.
He is mad about something other than this. He must not be getting any
at home and is grouchy. Doctors are supposed to be smarter than
that..aren't they?

Andy

Bean

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Jan 17, 2004, 7:09:23 PM1/17/04
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han...@tulane.edu (Hans Andersson) wrote in message news:<86fb677e.04011...@posting.google.com>...

<snip a pungently pompous pile of sanctimonious horses***>

Hans, for a guy who claims to be a man of high intelligence and
character, you sure come across like an idiot. You take the bait,
hook, line, sinker, reel and rod every time and if you could jump up
into the boat and beg to be scaled, gutted and pan-fried on the spot,
you probably would. After all the negative reaction you have received
from many participants in this group, you continue to play Net Nanny
and hector everyone who doesn't agree with you and act all huffy and
superior. At least TB has some wit and can hold up his end of a
conversation. (And no, I don't like his flavor of arrogance, either.)
Jeeze, give it a rest...

Hans, it seems to me that you couldn't buy a fucking clue if you were
standing, surrounded by six of their top-performing clue salespeople,
in the middle of the high-end clue department of Clues R Us, waving an
unlimited Platinum credit card and a stack of Clues R Us gift
certificates.

What are you gonna do now, send me some unwelcome harassing emails?

Dick Thaxter

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Jan 17, 2004, 7:19:54 PM1/17/04
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AGonda wrote:
> I think that Dr. Anderson is the most negative person on this group.
> He is mad about something other than this. He must not be getting any
> at home and is grouchy. Doctors are supposed to be smarter than
> that..aren't they?
>
> Andy

You could have chosen a more original alias, like maybe "Trashman" or
"Landfill King"

Dick Thaxter

Hedberg

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Jan 17, 2004, 8:15:53 PM1/17/04
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Wow. Guess it's pretty obvious when you take the time to look. He's
been posting as Andy for a while but I doubt I would have figured it
out if you hadn't commented on it.

Harold

Sherm

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Jan 18, 2004, 7:27:11 AM1/18/04
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 14:21:42 -0500, "Dorgan" <dor...@fltg.net> wrote:

>The "wad 'em up and stuff 'em in the bag load-out" is usually only used in
>certain circumstances...
>Was she hot?

LOL. Nothing like that, but it was pretty late. There were only a
few regulars and the staff around at 2a so I took the opportunity to
run some siong ideas buy 'em. A verse and a chorus and then
"waddyatink? . . . think that one would fly here? . . . would that go
over? . . .etc. etc." Very helpful few minutes as it turned out.

I need a srategy for building a crowd at this place since I'm not
gonna "draw" one. No following of my own, ya know, but I have an
open-ended deal for 2 Sat's per month so I can take the long view.

So far all I've done is:

1) I made a poster that they keep on the wall advertising my upcoming
date. (I figure if someone liked me there once and saw that then on
another visit then they might make plans to come back next time.

2) If someone asks me something I don't know I try to have it for
next time. I can't/won't catch 'em all but I've added several tunes
to the list that way --- lotsa good suggestions too..

3) I always spend my break time going around and talking to people,
asking what they like, talking music, etc.

But that's all I've come up with so far.

Sherm

Dorgan

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Jan 18, 2004, 8:56:17 AM1/18/04
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"Sherm" <wheez...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:42uk00hc4vcj9h7oc...@4ax.com...

Expand on the poster distribution...
This doesn't have to cost an arm and a leg...
Create the poster format on your computer ( I use a Canon Utility, but any
number of common softwares will do the job) and just get some good quality
poster paper and print them yourself.
Check out your local paper for an entertainment section and then tell the
venue owner how to go about getting your appearances listed. Sometimes it's
a small fee to get listed and other times it's a free service the papers
provide. If it's a fee service, convince the owner/manager that it's good
business to advertise.
Go the CD route... I've never done this, but I used to have some
compilation cassettes that were recorded at various gigs to hand out. I sold
them for the cost of the blank cassette.
I was surprised to see how well this worked.
Go get 'em.
You're good, you can make it happen.
Bob Dorgan


Dick Thaxter

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Jan 18, 2004, 11:53:22 AM1/18/04
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I didn't even look up anything and I wasn't aware of any other Andy
posts. I'm really going on the content and on the specific things that
were said to Hans. So who is Bean?

Dick Thaxter

foldedpath

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Jan 18, 2004, 2:04:45 PM1/18/04
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Dick Thaxter <Richard...@verizon.net> wrote in news:400AB9DF.4000806
@verizon.net:

> I didn't even look up anything and I wasn't aware of any other Andy
> posts. I'm really going on the content and on the specific things that
> were said to Hans. So who is Bean?

If you look up "Andy's" recent posts in other forums besides RMMGA in the
Google archives, his main theme seems to be rabid anti-semitism, instead of
right-wing politics per se. So I'm wondering if that's actually TB, unless
he keeps a Usenet persona on the side, for the religious/ethnic hatred
posts.

There was enough scary shit in his anti-semetic posts to earn an immediate
PLONK for me, regardless of what he has to say about guitars.

--
Mike Barrs

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Jan 18, 2004, 3:31:09 PM1/18/04
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testing

Hedberg

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Jan 18, 2004, 3:57:38 PM1/18/04
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:53:22 GMT, Dick Thaxter
<Richard...@verizon.net> wrote:

>[...]


>I didn't even look up anything and I wasn't aware of any other Andy
>posts. I'm really going on the content and on the specific things that
>were said to Hans. So who is Bean?
>
>Dick Thaxter

I compared headers and it's pretty obvious that the Andy posts are
coming from the same machine that the Brosseau posts come from.

It's not as easy to be anonymous in usenet as people think -- as I
used to think, for that matter.

Harold

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