Hoyer acoustic
Dierk Abel
is there anybody out there knowing something about old Hoyer acoustic
Guitars? I bought a used one but it seems impossible to get information
about it.
If you know something or if you know somebody who knows or if somebody,
who knows you know something...well...you know-please, let me know.
Thanks
Dierk
JamStrangler
wrote:
from the little I remember , they were East German or Austrian I
think, I have come across a 12-string that was built like it could
withstand an entire Panzer division... ;-)
ray
Dave Brichler
Dierk Abel <Dia...@t-online.de> wrote:
> Hi and so on,
> is there anybody out there knowing something about old Hoyer acoustic
> Guitars? I bought a used one but it seems impossible to get
> information about it.
> If you know something or if you know somebody who knows or if
> somebody, who knows you know something...well...you know-please, let
> me know.
> Thanks
> Dierk
Hi Dierk,
The "Blue Book of Guitars" only gives the following:
"Hoyer -- Instruments built in West Germany from the late 1950s through
the late 1980s."
"The Hoyer company produced a wide range of good to high quality solid
body, semi-hollow body, and archtop guitars, with some emphasis on the
latter during the 1960s. During the early 1970s, there was some
production of solid bodied guitars with an emphasis on classic American
designs."
"(Source: Tony Bacon and Paul Day, The Guru's Guitar Guide)"
Hope this helps,
Dave
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Charles & Joan Park
as an inexpensive Gibson. Since I couldn't afford the Gibson I bought
the Hoyer.Made in Germany. It came to a horrible end during the divorce,
but I do have a picture of it somewhere. As I recall it was a decent
guitar and sounded quite good. It also put up a valiant fight in the end
so it was well built.
Charles Park
George4908
Cult, but Hoyer was one of several German guitar companies that emerged after
the war (guess which one) with multiple lines of archtops, flattops and semis
and solids. The best known firms were Hofner, Framus, Hoyer, Klira and Hopf,
but there were also a few others such as Roger and Lang. Most these companies
were all in the same general region before the war, in what was eventually to
become part of East Germany, and most had a history (in Hopf's case, several
hundred year's worth) as violin makers, hence their interest and ability to get
into archtop building. After the war, most of the companies and workers
relocated to the west. As employees often moved from one company to another,
there was frequently overlap among the guitar styles and designs, and different
brands often used the same tailpieces, pickups, etc. Without the name on the
headstock it can sometimes be difficult to tell them apart. The reason these
former violin makers got into guitars in a big way was due mainly to the influx
of American G.I.'s in Germany after the war, who brought American music with
them. Rock and roll caught on in Europe in Germany first. There's a reason
the Beatles went to Hamburg -- there was a receptive audience for the stuff
they played, and many British groups did the same thing. Anyway, the German
guitar companies mostly started out building very low budget copies, or weird
variations on, Gibsons, Fenders and Martins which were acknowledged to be the
standard. As time went on, some of the companies moved from the low end of the
market to the middle, building instruments of better quality, and some went
onto to build their own original designs. Of the bunch, Hofner was probably
the best, Framus was the biggest, Klira was the bottom of the barrel. Hoyer
was interesting. They were founded in 1874 and built mainly lutes, zithers
and, later, classical guitars. After WWII they got into the guitar boom like
the other builders, specializing at first in archtops. Some were bizarrely
ornate, with fluted carves running like columns up and down the face and back
of the guitar, and over-the-top inlays. Others had 16 or so semi-circular mini
f-holes situated around the guitar's perimeter. Most had cat's-eye f-holes.
Many of these are good quality instruments, if a bit strange in appearance.
But like the other builders in Germany, Hoyer got into the electric stuff in a
cheap way and built a lot of crap that was either weird or derivative. As for
flattops, the various builders all had them in their lines, but it's probably
true to say their hearts weren't in flattops, they were just making a product
the market wanted. Whereas many German archtops are actually quite good, the
flattops are usually forgettable. Anyway, by the 1970s, the incursion of low
priced Asian imports had the same effect on many of the German companies that
it had on the American equivalents like Kay and Harmony: they went out of
business. Hoyer has managed to survive, but not exactly thrive. They're still
around, making semi-decent mid-level instruments. Nothing that would knock
your socks off. In the 1980's, Walter Hoyer, a descendant of the original
family, started another "Hoyer" guitar company, unrelated to the first one. So
there is now both a "Hoyer" and a "W.A. Hoyer" guitar company in existence.
Lest anyone think I am a walking repository for this stuff, most of the
information came from "Electro Gitarren Made in Germany." Out of print, but a
treasure trove of teutonic trivia.
Dierk Abel
Hi George4908(?),
first have many thanks for all these Informations. It愀 really
interesting what you have found in the old book. I knew, Hoyer
was(!) a german manufacture of partly good guitars, but this company
doesn愒 longer excist. There is a company building Guitars named
Hoyer, but this instruments were build in Korea, some in Spain, but
this isn愒 the same company which built my Guitar.
This one were built in the late 60ies, maybe early 70ies (this is,
what my Guitar-store suggested), it has a complete massiv body
(bottom, top and these things beetween(how do you call it in english?
In german it is called "Zargen")). On the headstock is the number 2063
and the serialnumber is 048063.
I want to identify the guitar. Can you help me?
Thanks and by
Dierk
George4908
>(bottom, top and these things beetween(how do you call it in english?
>In german it is called "Zargen")). On the headstock is the number 2063
>and the serialnumber is 048063.
>I want to identify the guitar. Can you help me?
My German-English dictionary does not have "Zargen" in it. But I like the of
having a guitar with Zargen, whatever it is. About the serial numbers, Hoyer
apparently didn't even use them until the 70s. As for model number, the book
indicates that from 1972-1976 anything "20XX" means 6-string flattop. So odds
are your guitar is from that period.
hauswerk...@gmail.com
I have a 2063 at my own. It's in the colour red sunburst an I like it very much, because I owned a black 2063 in my youth. I bought it new in 1979.
The black one has been my first western guitar and I remembered her as my guitar, I wrote and played my first own songs with. But I lost her because of a damage and many years later, I looked all around, to get a 2063 once again, but couldn't find one. The 2063 is nearly unknown in the internet, although it's a fantastic guitar.
This year I got one in good condition. The red one. Former, I didn't know, that it exists in this colour, but I like it more than the black one. It looks and sounds great!
If you like, I can send you some pictures.
If you are interested in the pictures, please send me a mail to hauswerk...@web.de