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Baby Taylor trouble staying in tune

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Uncle Jimmypie

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Nov 19, 2009, 8:47:35 PM11/19/09
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Got a Baby Taylor to take on a trip earlier this year. Fun little guitar,
nicely made, good sound for what it is.

However, it slips out of tune after a just few minutes of playing. I've
stretched the strings manually, made sure the ball ends are seated right at
the bridge, done all the stuff you do to be sure it's not the strings.

Doesn't seem to be an extra-short-scale issue, 'cause I can get it into
tune OK, it just won't stay there.

I've owned and played (full-sized) Taylors before, never seen this problem.

Next suspect would be the tuners, I reckon.

Any of y'all have this experience with a Baby Taylor?

Uncle J
AKA Jim Myers

Ed Edelenbos

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Nov 19, 2009, 10:12:58 PM11/19/09
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"Uncle Jimmypie" <COWjvme...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I had the same problem. I never figured out what it was and quickly lost
interest. What are you tuning it to and with what strings? The one I had
responded better (and was much more stable) to being tuned up to G with
light strings. Unless I remember incorrectly, Taylor specs them with lights
tuned to E. It just didn't work for me. It seemed very susceptible to even
minute changes in humidity, also.

Ed

Les Cargill

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Nov 19, 2009, 10:17:53 PM11/19/09
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Do you do this?

http://www.uncletim.com/setup.htm

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Les Cargill

Ed Edelenbos

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Nov 19, 2009, 10:24:33 PM11/19/09
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"Les Cargill" <lcarg...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I don't do that but I have a specific way I put strings on the post. It's
worked for 10 years or so on the overwhelming majority of guitars I've
owned, but not the Baby T. There's more to it with Baby T's. (ymmv)

Ed

hank alrich

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Nov 19, 2009, 11:08:40 PM11/19/09
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Les Cargill <lcarg...@comcast.net> wrote:

Yes, ever since I saw Luke do that while restringing a guitar of mine. I
can now trim the ends so short that I can't poke a hole in my finger at
the machine post anymore.

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shut up and play your guitar

Tony Done

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Nov 20, 2009, 4:27:29 AM11/20/09
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"Uncle Jimmypie" <COWjvme...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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My about-12yo BT is very unstable in relation to temperature and humidity,
with a visible variation in neck relief as climate changes. These faulty
versions were replaced under warranty in the US but not here in Oz. What
surprises me is that it hasn't stabilised over time. Hopefully yours isn't
one of these, the symptoms aren't quite the same, the changes seem faster
than mine.

Tony D

Rich Watkins

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:31:07 AM11/20/09
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"Uncle Jimmypie" <COWjvme...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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From the Taylor website:

Customers in the U.S. and Canada are encouraged to contact our Factory
Service Center staff toll free at 1-800-943-6782 with any service,
maintenance or repair questions concerning Taylor guitars.


hank alrich

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Nov 20, 2009, 9:27:58 AM11/20/09
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Tony Done <tony...@bigpond.com> wrote:

Make sure the drywall screws attaching the neck are secure. Seriously.
It's very easy for a little play there to raise havoc with action and
tuning.

Kevin Hall

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Nov 20, 2009, 12:38:41 PM11/20/09
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I haven't messed with the Baby Taylor model, but the most common reason for
tuning trouble these days seems to be tight nut slots, particularly if the
nut is one of the modern synthetics like Corian or plastic. If the string
slots in the nut are too deep and narrow you'll get strings binding in the
slot then slipping back as you play. This is made worse if you tune over
the note then drop back to it, as the tight slot can hold the string for a
short while after you've slackened the tuner tension, only to let it go a
few minutes later.

I suggest that before you give up on it you make sure the nut slots are a
few thou wider than the strings in 'em, and that you don't have too much
nut hovering over and above the string in the slot. Nut slots need be
little more than half the dia. of the string in order to hold strings in
place, and if deeper than that can cause problems.

Replacing a synthetic nut with bone is a good idea for a number of reasons.
Any tuning difficulties will be magnified by very short scales, so it makes
sense to eliminate as many possible variables as you can.

KH


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Tony Done

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Nov 20, 2009, 3:14:50 PM11/20/09
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"hank alrich" <walk...@nv.net> wrote in message
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I'll check that, but I've had this guitar apart enough times (including
shimming the neck angle up) that I'm not optimistic that it would be a cure.

Tony D

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