GUY VAN DUSER!!!
Ken Boyden
There is at least one book of Guy Van Duser arrangements by Mel Bay
called 'Stride Guitar' The cover shows a guitar playing a piano.
ken
Craigbrndo
scream...ahhhhhhhhh!!!!] This guy is beyond belief!!! Does anybody know
if any of his arrangements are published?
Craig
"Hey Andy!" "Hey Gomer!"
Robert Minato
(Craigbrndo) wrote:
Yes, he's got a book called "Stride Guitar". A Mel Bay publication, as I
recall. It includes the complete transcription to "Stars and Stripes
Forever".
You might try "Elderly Instruments" mail order service:
Elderly Instruments
1100 N. Washington
PO Box 14210
Lansing, MI 48901
(517) 372-7890
(517) 372-5155 (fax)
Richard Darsie
> Oh my God!!! I just heard my first Guy Van Duser CD!!! [Sam Kennison
> scream...ahhhhhhhhh!!!!] This guy is beyond belief!!! Does anybody know
> if any of his arrangements are published?
Yes, there is a Mel Bay (!) book containing a bunch of Guy's
arrangements. Good luck playing them, though -- he must have
oversize hands to do some of the stretches he puts in!
The book is called "Stride Guitar", I think.
Richard Darsie
dar...@ece.ucdavis.edu
ElanII
>scream...ahhhhhhhhh!!!!] This guy is beyond belief!!! Does anybody know
>if any of his arrangements are published?
Mel Bay published "Stride Guitar" in 1983. It has seven songs tabbed
including Seneca Slide, Snowy Morning Blues, and the once (still?) famous
Stars and Stripes Forever.
David Morse Mors...@corning.com
Richard Maxwell
Chattanooga Choo Choo
and Cheek to Cheek. I've been working on getting them put into Finale. Anyone
interested? In
the past I've been able to perform Choo Choo but I never took the time to get
Cheek to Cheek
up to a performance level. The 2 tunes were taken from the album that has
Stars and Stripes
Forever.
Richard Maxwell
>==========Ken Boyden, 12/5/95==========
Craigbrndo
one more time........!
"Hey Andy!" "Hey Gomer!"
Tony Hoffman
>Oh my God!!! I just heard my first Guy Van Duser CD!!! [Sam Kennison
>scream...ahhhhhhhhh!!!!] This guy is beyond belief!!! Does anybody know
>if any of his arrangements are published?
>
Yep. It's called "Stride Guitar". I can't remember the publisher,
but I'm pretty sure you can get it from Elderly Instruments. They
have a good selection of music books if you didn't know already.
Tony.
Ken Boyden
I would be interested in These. I have always liked the way Guy did these
pieces.
Best Regards
Ken Boyden
Richard Darsie
>I actually have transcriptions that my teacher did (14 years ago!) of
>Chattanooga Choo Choo
>and Cheek to Cheek. I've been working on getting them put into Finale. Anyone
>interested?
I am definitely interested in seeing an arrangement of Chattanooga
Choo Choo. Dale Miller has a nice fingerstyle version of this tune
on one of his records also, which I've never quite been able to
figure out.
Richard Darsie
dar...@ece.ucdavis.edu
Sweet Mlk
since someone turned me on to a copy of Stride Guitar....I then saw Chet
try to do Stars and Stripe Forever, a la Van Duser, on TV, and even he
botched it. Why, if Van Duser is the guitar god we all know he is, is he
not more prominent or "successful." Does he just shy away, or what? Bob
in Huntsville (a short Friday night drive from Nashville)
Greg O'neill
It has some great numbers in it, but prepare for finger cramps!
Carl Christensen
>Yep. It's called "Stride Guitar". I can't remember the publisher,
>but I'm pretty sure you can get it from Elderly Instruments. They
>have a good selection of music books if you didn't know already.
I think it's out of print but there's no harm in trying. I bought when it
first came out in the 80's. Guy drew the cover, a guitar sitting at an
upright piano, pretty clever. Guy also has some albums with clarinet
player and singer Billy Novick. They're OK but I prefer his solo guitar
stuff. To whomever has the transcriptions of Chattanooga Choo Choo, I'd
love to see that.
If you like Guy, you may want to check out a guy named Ton Von Bergyk.
These guys are light years beyond the usual DADGAD riff-raff and guys you
see in 'Fingerstyle Guitar' magazine! ;-)
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DickSchnei
writes:
>If you like Guy, you may want to check out a guy named Ton Von Bergyk.
>These guys are light years beyond the usual DADGAD riff-raff and guys you
>see in 'Fingerstyle Guitar' magazine! ;-)
>
>
>
I certainly agree with the above - I have some of his recordings that
Stefan Grossman produced on Kicking Mule lp's from the early '70's. He is
a fantastic ragtime player, but his name is spelled Ton Van Bergeyk!
Dick Schneiders
DBOW
performances transcribed: "Black Beauty" and "Vipers Drag". Other artists
featured in the book include John Miller, Artie Traum, Eric Shoenberg,
Tony Rice, Mark O'Conner, Russ Barenberg, Dan Crary and Norman Blake.
Dan Bowden
Transcriber of
Great Guitarists of America
Peter Beemboom
>I actually have transcriptions that my teacher did (14 years ago!) of
>Chattanooga Choo Choo
>and Cheek to Cheek. I've been working on getting them put into Finale. Anyone
>interested? In
>the past I've been able to perform Choo Choo but I never took the time to get
>Cheek to Cheek
>up to a performance level. The 2 tunes were taken from the album that has
>Stars and Stripes
>Forever.
I would be very much interested in precisely these two tunes!!
I don't know much about Finale, but sure it's possible to make it put out
GIF or Postscript files to be viewed with ghostscript or whatever.
(To save the trouble of making up ascii-tab)
thanks a lot
Peter Beemboom
Carl Christensen
It just means that being the technically "best" or "better" does not
automatically mean that you'll be financially rewarded. I never
understood that mentality, which was foisted on me as I went to
engineering school (e.g. if you have the best grades you'll end up with a
job making the most money). I thought this was a uniquely American idea
but met a lot of people in graduate school from India and China with the
same fallacy.
Also, being a 'pioneer' at something gives you a distinct advantage.
There's only one Chet Atkins or Merle Travis, but there's thousands of
imitators (some of whom ended up being better from a technical standpoint)
trying to vie for the same kind of recognition. I'm not a big fan of
Pierre Bensusan or the DADGAD school, I have to give him credit for being
a 'pioneer' in this area. Although I'd like to el-kabong the seemingly
gazillion imitators (noodling around in DADGAD and hitting too many
harmonics ;-) with their own custom made guitars!
Daniel A. Johnson
: I certainly agree with the above ... He is
: a fantastic ragtime player, but his name is spelled Ton Van Bergeyk!
Ah, but the real question is, How do you pronounce it? ;) Or more
importantly, how does he do it?
Dan
Ethan Harvey
: trying to vie for the same kind of recognition. I'm not a big fan of
: Pierre Bensusan or the DADGAD school, I have to give him credit for being
: a 'pioneer' in this area. Although I'd like to el-kabong the seemingly
: gazillion imitators (noodling around in DADGAD and hitting too many
: harmonics ;-) with their own custom made guitars!
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Pierre Bensusan really should not be put in the same category as the horde
of New-Age noodlers out there. For some inexplicable reason, he has on his
last two recordings ventured into compositions that border upon a
Windham-Hill sound at times, which I am not a fan of either. But if you
listen to any of his pre-"Spices" recordings, you will see what an
extraordinary player he is. And seeing him perform live reaffirms this.
Hopefully he will one day return to that type of playing, but I guess
this is what he prefers these days.
Craigbrndo
"The Velvet Touch." What a NIGHTMARE!!! -- I mean that in a positive
sense. I've heard some of his later stuff, which is also great, but this
album.....(scream).
Bryan Eggers
arrangement of the Andy Griffith Show theme by Tommy Jones. He
has an awesome video and corresponding tab book for all of it.
If anyone wants the address, let me know.
Regarding Guy Van Duser, I've learned "Chattanooga Choo-Choo",
"Embraceable You" and "As Time Goes By" from that album. If I
can ever get my hands on a decent tab program I'll transcribe
those tunes and upload them.
One of Duser's great arrangements is the TV show medley. I just
don't have the time and energy right now to learn all these songs
from the CD -- some of them (like Rawhide) are really difficult.
Anyone else working on it?
Bryan
Carl Christensen
>: trying to vie for the same kind of recognition. I'm not a big fan of
>: Pierre Bensusan or the DADGAD school, I have to give him credit for being
>: a 'pioneer' in this area. Although I'd like to el-kabong the seemingly
>Pierre Bensusan really should not be put in the same category as the horde
>of New-Age noodlers out there. For some inexplicable reason, he has on his
>last two recordings ventured into compositions that border upon a
>Windham-Hill sound at times, which I am not a fan of either. But if you
OK, I'll take your word for it. I imagine it was just more commercially
viable to head more in a "New Age" direction (unfortunately). This same
disease seems to be creeping into classical guitarists I've always held in
high esteem.
PS -- You have to take everything I write with a big grain of salt, it's
all tongue-in-cheek (with the tongue sometimes piercing the cheek). I've
long ago abandoned the idea that something I read in Usenet News actually
has some basis in fact, but I forget many others believe the many
'experts' floating around the Internet! :-)
Robert W. Van Sickel
ragtime and 20's/30s jazz and pop on the solo guitar. There's only one
CD in print, "Black and Tan Fantasy," on Shanachie. Legend has it that
the guy is a computer programmer or something in Holland and doesn't
even consider himself a professional musician. I'd give anything to get
ahold of his original five LPs on Kicking Mule -- if anyone has them,
let's make a deal....
I'm pretty sure I once heard Stefan Grossman pronounce his name:
Ton Van "Bear-Jeck."
Lefty Fingerpickiers Unite!
Jeff Johnson
Duck Baker, who produced some of Ton Van Bergeyk's albums,
pronounces his name "Ber-jayk", with a soft "j".
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Jeff Johnson
Human-Computer Interaction
SunSoft Developer Products
Allyn Dimock
Someone on this list said that Ton Van Bergyk doesn't consider himself a
professional guitarist.
Stefan Grossman in the introduction to the tab of one of Ton's arrangements
mentioned that Ton doesn't (possibly can't) play his pieces in public
performance. This gives one possible interpretation to the "doesn't consider
himself a professional guitarist" remark.
From Grossman's comment I would assume that Ton arranges pieces right at the
limit of his ability to play them.
-- Allyn
Jeff Johnson
> From Grossman's comment I would assume that Ton arranges pieces right
> at the limit of his ability to play them.
More likely he suffers from serious stage fright. There are many amazing
guitarists who can't play in front of audiences. The Delta bluesman
Robert Johnson, for example, is reputed to have rarely performed for live
audiences, and when he did, he had to play with his back to the audience.
I can sympathize. On the standard 1-5 guitar skill scale, I often say I'm
a level-4 fingerpicker, but when I play in front of audiences, I drop at
least a level for the first two tunes. It's just amazing how wooden the
old two hands become when people are watching them.
Carl Christensen
>Stefan Grossman in the introduction to the tab of one of Ton's arrangements
>mentioned that Ton doesn't (possibly can't) play his pieces in public
>performance. This gives one possible interpretation to the "doesn't consider
>himself a professional guitarist" remark.
>From Grossman's comment I would assume that Ton arranges pieces right at the
>limit of his ability to play them.
So what does he do in the studio, use synthesizers? His
"non-professional" limit is a hell of a lot higher than a lot of guys out
their calling themselves "professionals," that's for sure....
BAKimsey
Johnson) writes:
> It's just amazing how wooden the
>old two hands become when people are watching them.
I'm the other way around. Give me a good audience and my skill level
picks up a few notches. Give me good band members AND a good audience,
and look out, Tony Rice!! (yeah, RIGHT!). Seriously, though, I love
playing for an audience and I'm not a real attention seeking guy. I
never, for instance, take my guitar to parties and I never ask people
"Hey, wanna hear me play?". Wonder what it is that gives one person stage
fright and the other stage fearlessness?
Bryan
Conecaster
Nashville. Guy told me he was into writing movie scores and had just done
something for a small film maker. He was pretty down on pereformance in
general and sounded like he wanted to pursue composition even more. Guy
is a very gentle and humble soul. I hope we all hear more about him in
the near future. A great musical talent. The only guitar player, I
believe, to ever fill in for the Boston Pops on 4th of July. That was the
Bicentenial 4th of July no less. Chet also borrowed the Yankee-Dixie
arrangement from Guy.
DRegan6956
In the News section of the current Acoustic Guitar Magazine (January 1996)
it is reported that Fantasy Records has bought the Kicking Mule Catalog.
I think that if you are patient all of the Ton Van Bergeyk will be
reissued on CD. You shouldn't have to worry about old records at inflated
prices. I can't find Fantasy's address at the moment but if you can't
find it please let me know and I'll try to find it for you. You can let
them know you are interested in Ton. He is a great fingerpicker. Maybe
the reissues will have some biographical information. Wonder what he's
doing now? By the way, Fantasy also bought the Takoma Records catalog
(Fahey, Kottke, Basho,) so we can look forward to all kinds of wonderfull
reissues. Save your money now for 96! Take care and Merry
Christmas......David Regan
Ethan Harvey
I'm sure he does not use synthesizers in the studio, but neither do we know
how many takes are required to get one flawless performance recorded. John
Renbourn said in one interview that he does not perform a lot of pieces he
has recorded (such as the material from "The Hermit") because it requires so
much practice to maintain the pieces in his repertoire without making errors
in a live format. I agree with you though, that Ton is probably pretty
amazing live nevertheless. I know that Renbourn is.