How's the Severin horn?
Louis Jezsik
I am looking to get back to the horn after a twenty year hiatus. I was
never very good so I am prepared to right old wrongs and finaly practice.
In a local (Montreal) store, I see a used student double horn from Severin.
Having never heard of them, I'd like some feedback as to how reputable the
company is (I now know to avoid the Yamaha, thanks!).
Louis
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Andrew Karre
are widely available, theirs (the 668 and 667) are unexcelled in my
experience. The Yamahas are much more consistent than the comparably priced
Holtons. The professional model horns are supposedly superb.
I would certainly not go out of my way to avoid Yamaha horns. Several
players in the studio here (Lawrence Conservatory) play Yamahas and are
pleased with them and would only consider replacing them with small
production handmade instruments.
I have not heard of Severin, though, so I cannot help you with your main
question.
Good luck, though.
Andrew Karre
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"Andrew Karre" <andrew....@lawrence.edu> wrote:
> Why would you avoid Yamaha, out of curiosity? Of the production
horns that
> are widely available, theirs (the 668 and 667) are unexcelled in my
> experience. The Yamahas are much more consistent than the comparably
priced
> Holtons. The professional model horns are supposedly superb.
> I would certainly not go out of my way to avoid Yamaha horns. Several
> players in the studio here (Lawrence Conservatory) play Yamahas and
are
> pleased with them and would only consider replacing them with small
> production handmade instruments.
> I have not heard of Severin, though, so I cannot help you with your
main
> question.
Indeed the consistency of Yamaha horns today is IMHO unmatached by
anything else in their price class commonly available in N. America.
One sees lots of posts about assembly mistakes on Conns and Holtons -
I've heard but a single gripe about a Yamaha. They aren't without
issues (the metal is soft and dents easily, the valves may wear faster)
but they are generally very well built and a far better risk for buying
sight-unseen than the competition.
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Before you buy.
Louis Jezsik
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> In article <7upndr$r...@wiscnews.wiscnet.net>,
> "Andrew Karre" <andrew....@lawrence.edu> wrote:
> > Why would you avoid Yamaha, out of curiosity?
I've been following the "Re: what is a good brand of starter student horn?"
thread the last two weeks. There were more negative comments about Yamaha
than any other instrument. Mind you, the high-end horns may be great, but
I'm not looking for a high-end horn. Sorry if it looked like I was trashing
Yamaha.
Louis
Montreal
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Ah, if you look in the sub $2000 market (street price, not list) you
take your chances with any make. It simply isn't possible to price a
good instrument below that and still make a profit - so the Holton
H378, Yamaha YHR567 (sometimes sold in Bach livery) etc all have
serious compromises. It's possible the quality of the "automobile
factory excess capacity" horns from China may improve at some point,
but until it does horns are simply and necessarily going to be
expensive.
Basically, you are wasting your money to buy one of the sub $2k horns -
get a used instrument of the YHR 667/668, H178/179 etc variety. New
these would sell for $2000-3000, but used they are more like $1000-1500.
8D's are available used, but some early ones are worth twice what a new
one will fetch, wheras others are real dogs not worth much at all -
best to only shop for these with an experienced Conn player to act as a
guide.
Brassbend
>factory excess capacity" horns from China may improve at some point,
>but until it does horns are simply and necessarily going to be
>expensive.
>
>Basically, you are wasting your money to buy one of the sub $2k horns -
>get a used instrument of the YHR 667/668, H178/179 etc variety.
A few years ago I borrowed a Jupiter horn for the local symphany. It was easy
to play, had no intonation problems, and was solid. The Jupiter is the only
Geyer Wrap horn that I have played that reminded me of the Geyer I played in
the 70s. It might be worth your while to try one out. Depending on your
politics you might consider this as being from China in that it is made in
Tiawan. The company has been making instruments and parts for about 75 years.
Leonard
Leonard/Laredo........ where the top is always down
Jerry Houston
in the trumpet newsgroup. (Disclaimer: he sells them, along with a number
of other brands.) His recommendations to me have always turned out right,
so I value his opinion.
It's encouraging to know that their horns are good, too.
Jerry in Seattle
PS: I have one horn that I'm told is ... ahem ... PART Jupiter. I like it
just fine.
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<snip>
> A few years ago I borrowed a Jupiter horn for the local symphany. It was
easy
> to play, had no intonation problems, and was solid. The Jupiter is the
only
> Geyer Wrap horn that I have played that reminded me of the Geyer I played
in
> the 70s...
Ted Petrosky
and Hawks had on display a single F with a very tight wrap. They said that
they intended it for the education market. I played on it and it really
played well. They also said that they intended to have it available as a
single B flat. The rep said they were looking for the rental market for
the model. Has anyone seen this horn in production?
Ted
In article <WdsR3.3085$p_5....@wagner.videotron.net>, "Louis Jezsik"
<jez...@videotron.ca.SPAMmeNOT> wrote:
> <cs_po...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:7uqik7$g1h$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > In article <7upndr$r...@wiscnews.wiscnet.net>,
> > "Andrew Karre" <andrew....@lawrence.edu> wrote:
> > > Why would you avoid Yamaha, out of curiosity?
>
> I've been following the "Re: what is a good brand of starter student horn?"
> thread the last two weeks. There were more negative comments about Yamaha
> than any other instrument. Mind you, the high-end horns may be great, but
> I'm not looking for a high-end horn. Sorry if it looked like I was trashing
> Yamaha.
>
> Louis
> Montreal
> jez...@videotron.ca.NOSPAM