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Tracy Tong

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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I can't seem to find it at my local CD stores (I think it's easier to part
with my money this way than to order online). Can anyone recommend good
recordings of this, the conductor, the orchestra, the label, and what else
was thrown into the mix on that CD? Thanks! Also, I'd like to get a
recording of the Long Call but without buying the 200 dollar full Ring set.
=^) Any ideas?

-Tracy
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http://horns.arecool.net


JackH35785

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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I must have every recording of this work since WW2 ! An early Berlin PO with
Von K, Ristenpart with Chamber Orch of Saar, Tennstedt with Berlin PO(again!),
a private recording for subscribers of Reiners and the Chicago SO, Neumann with
the Czech SO, Schwartz and the Seattle SO, and my most recent Thielemann with
the Royal PO.

Each one has distinct differences and is fun to listen and compare. That said,
I am convinced the Theilemann is now my favorite. You have some slick horn
gymnastics by this section and reasonable tempo in the last movement that
actually has kind of a bounce to it ! And, of course, accuracy is a good
measure and I think that the horn section of the Royal PO recording hits more
notes correctly.

For excitement and spirit I'll take the Czech PO recording. It raise the
adrenilin level and the final movement is absolutely breathless !
Jack

Kurtis Henderson

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Jun 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/25/99
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My private instructor, Susie Fritz of the Jacksonville S.O., has a cd called
Audition: Improbable. It was put together by the Houston S.O. horn section
and it is a story about a horn player that is auditioning to "one of the
majors" and it is hilarious. You probably aren't looking for an example of
how to play the Long Call, but it is the funniest horn cd ever!!!!!! It is
my opinion that every horn player should get it. Iv'e never found it in the
stores, and I don't own it to give much info and Susie left today,
ironically, and she won't be back to tell me, so, unless one of you helped
produce the cd, your all out of luck.
Sorry, I guess

David B. Thompson

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Jun 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/26/99
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Osmun sells the "Audition Improbable" CD's from their web site at:

http://www.osmun.com


David B. Thompson
Solo Horn, Barcelona Symphony Orchestra


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Helen Read

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Jun 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/26/99
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Tracy Tong wrote:
>
> I can't seem to find it at my local CD stores (I think it's easier to part
> with my money this way than to order online). Can anyone recommend good
> recordings of this, the conductor, the orchestra, the label, and what else
> was thrown into the mix on that CD?

I have a really terrific recording of the Konzertstuck by the Berlin
Philharmonic horn section with the Bamberg Symphony, Michael Boder
conducting. It's a 1990 CD on Koch International Classics (Schwann).
Also on the CD are two 20th century works: a concerto for 4 horns and
orchestra by Harald Genzmer, and Variations for 4 French Horns by Paul
Coenen.

I used to have an excellent recording (on cassette tape, copied off an
LP) of the Konzertstuck featuring Hermann Baumann (no idea what
orchestra), but I have not been able to find it on CD. It's very likely
out of print.

Helen

Helen Read

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Jun 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/26/99
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Tracy Tong wrote:

> Also, I'd like to get a
> recording of the Long Call but without buying the 200 dollar full Ring set.
> =^) Any ideas?

Not exactly what you are looking for, but for some terrific Wagner, try
"Fantasien fur 8 Horner" (Fantasies for 8 Horns) performed by the
Bayreuther Festspiel-Hornisten (Bayreuth Festival Horns). It has horn
octet arrangements on themes from Lohengrin, Das Reingold, Siegfried,
and Tristan und Isolde. The Siegfried call is included, but not exactly
the way that you remember it! I'd been looking for this CD for ages--it
was out of print--when lo and behold, it was re-released in 1998 on the
Arts Music label.

I have another excellent recording by the Bayreuth Festival Horns, "Es
blies ein Jager wohl in sein Horn", which has lots of peppy fanfares,
hunts, and so forth. It's on the Acanta label (1988; might not still be
in print).

Another all time favorite is Baumann's recording of his own arrangement
of St Hubert's Mass, scored for a huge ensemble of valved horns, natural
horns, and organ. It's just a wall of sound. (It's on the Philips label,
1991. Don't know if this one is still in print, either.)

Helen

Paul Ryder

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Jun 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/27/99
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In article <19990625152404...@ng-fv1.aol.com>,

JackH35785 <jackh...@aol.com> wrote:
>I must have every recording of this work since WW2 ! An early Berlin PO with
>Von K, Ristenpart with Chamber Orch of Saar, Tennstedt with Berlin PO(again!),
>a private recording for subscribers of Reiners and the Chicago SO, Neumann with
>the Czech SO, Schwartz and the Seattle SO, and my most recent Thielemann with
>the Royal PO.

The version conducted by Thielemann is with the Philharmonia, not the RPO
- it is excellent. The Baumann quartet recording is great and exciting. I
also have recordings by the New French Philharmonic and the Israel PO and
I understand there is another recent recording on piston horns.

--
Paul Ryder
Physicist and French Hornist

EMNagamine

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Jun 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/28/99
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Helen Read wrote:

>
> Another all time favorite is Baumann's recording of his own arrangement
> of St Hubert's Mass, scored for a huge ensemble of valved horns, natural
> horns, and organ. It's just a wall of sound. (It's on the Philips label,
> 1991. Don't know if this one is still in print, either.)

It's out of print though I've seen it as a cutout from places
such as Tower records or Berkshire record outlet.
There is different editon of the St. Hubert's Mass with most of
the horn players in Vienna on an old Decca LP which was never
issued in the U.S. That version is most amazing massed horn
ensemble I've ever heard. God's own horn choir.


--

Aloha and Mahalo,

Eric Nagamine

EMNagamine

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Jun 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/28/99
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Helen Read wrote:

> I used to have an excellent recording (on cassette tape, copied off an
> LP) of the Konzertstuck featuring Hermann Baumann (no idea what
> orchestra), but I have not been able to find it on CD. It's very likely
> out of print.

This was available orginally on the German BASF label and has
never been issued in the U.S. on CD AFAIK. It is unique in that 5
not 4 horns were used to peform the work. Baumann later
re-recorded this on the budget Arte Nova label which is decent
but not as exciting.

EMNagamine

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Jun 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/28/99
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Tracy Tong wrote:
>
> I can't seem to find it at my local CD stores (I think it's easier to part
> with my money this way than to order online). Can anyone recommend good
> recordings of this, the conductor, the orchestra, the label, and what else
> was thrown into the mix on that CD? Thanks! Also, I'd like to get a

> recording of the Long Call but without buying the 200 dollar full Ring set.
> =^) Any ideas?

In order of preference(my tastes run towards european players in
the Konzertstuck):

Berlin Classics 9324 has Peter Damm's recording with the Dresden
Staatskapelle horn section on a CD that also has the Weber
Concertino, Lortzing and Saint-Saen's Concert pieces. I think
this just came out at mid-price.
There is also Baumann's second recording on the Arte Nova 27803
with other schumann works (non-horn related).
There is a HIP recording by Gardiner and some british hornists on
Archive/DG 2AH 457591 that is not bad, but you have to buy all
the Schumann symphonies to get it.

Similarly there is a Leipzig Gewandhaus horn section led by Peter
Damm when he was principal there back in the '60s recording as
part of their Schumann symphony set on Berlin Classics 2016 .

There is also a Philharmonia Orchestra section recording on DG
2GH 453482 coupled with the 2nd symphony which doesn't list the
horn players.

The Chicago Symphony has two recordings. The DG recording with
Barenboim and Clevenger led section is now out of print, but the
CSO has issued on it's own Archives label a recording with
Solti/Clevenger, et al. (Available by e-mailing the CSO from
their webstore)

The Seattle Symphony also has recorded the Konzertstuck on Delos
Records DE 3084.

As to the Long Call, Dennis Brain's recording is available on
Testament SBT 1012(mono) coupled with Sigfried Idyll and Brahms
1st which both feature DB as Principal. IMHO however, he sounds
weak playing on his Raoux horn, not really a good example of how
to play it. Dave Krehbiel(recently retired from the San Francisco
Symphony) has recorded the Short call as part of the OrchestraPro
series on Summit DCD 141. A must if you are interested in
audition excerpts for horn. A volume 2 is due out sometime in the
future. D

The Long call is best heard in it's full orchestral garb as part
of Act II, scene 2 of Siegfried(3rd part of the Ring). This
occurs just prior to what us tubists know as the Dragon music.
Heard in its proper context the Long call is very impressive. A
full recording of Siegfried will set you back about $60 or so. My
recommendation is the Solti/Vienna Philharmonic recording with
hornist Roland Beger who plays the Viennese F Horn or the
Levine/Met Opera recording which has Julie Landsman as the
principal.

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Tracy Tong

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Well, I found a recording of Konzertstuck coupled with Schumann's second
symphony. It also has the Manfred Overture. Christian Thielemann leads the
Philharmonia Orchestra. Any comments?

- Tracy
http://horns.arecool.net

EMNagamine

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Considering the lack of single disc Konzertstucks its okay. Those
Brit horn players can sight read the hell out of anything. Damm
on Berlin classics and Baumann on Arte Nova are still better.

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