Protestant Ave Maria
Bob Stone
know anything about an erstwhile "Protestant Ave Maria". My choir member
thinks it may have been altered text set to the Schubert. Thanks!
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Robert Stone
Assistant Director of Music Ministries
Christ Church of Oak Brook
Voice: 630/941-7067
Cell: 630/291-7067
Fax: 630/941-3690
b...@ahmuse.com
Berni Phillips
>
> I have had an interesting request from one of my choir members. Does anyone
> know anything about an erstwhile "Protestant Ave Maria". My choir member
> thinks it may have been altered text set to the Schubert. Thanks!
That sounds like the edition put out in the Harold Flammer Choral
Series. It has an English text by Lorraine Noel Finley. The text is as
follows:
Heavenly Father! Hear our pray'r!
We seek Thee in supplication;
We come to Thee in our despair,
For Thou canst grant us Thy salvation.
Our lives are safe in Thy affection.
We dwell within Thy love divine.
O Father, render Thy protection,
Maintain and guard us ever Thine!
Heavenly Father!
etc.
If this sounds like something you want, go for it. It's arranged by
Wallingford Riegger. Its catalog number is A5110; Harold Flammer Music
is a division of Shawnee Press. It's SATB with soprano/tenor solo.
I'd recommend this only to non-Catholics, however. I'm choir director
at a Catholic church, and someone bought it for our church. It was
bought in memory of the woman's son who died tragically young, and she
wanted it sung, in the Latin version, on the anniversary of his death.
This edition is terrible to use with the Latin Ave Maria text. They
have changed so many rhythms, adding additional notes and excising
others to make the English text fit. I had to type up a 2-page set of
notes for my choir indicating what changes they would need to make in
their scores to sing the Latin. It's not worth it for a church choir!
Berni Phillips
Queen of Apostles Catholic Church
Howard Slenk
Yes, there is a "Protestant" Ave Maria, but it is probably not the one
your choir member has in mind. It is by the sixteenth-century Flemish
composer Jean Caulery. The title is "Resjouy toi, Vierge Marie" with the
subtitle "La salutation angelique." My edition has only the original
French text. I own several copies and would be willing to send you one,
and anyone else who might be interested in performing this unknown
little gem. I copied it from some old part-books in the Bibliotheque
nationale in Paris.
Please e-mail me at sl...@calvin.edu
Howard Slenk
Calvin College
Bob Stone (b...@ahmuse.com) wrote:
: I have had an interesting request from one of my choir members. Does anyone
: know anything about an erstwhile "Protestant Ave Maria". My choir member
: thinks it may have been altered text set to the Schubert. Thanks!
: _________________________________
George Battrick
morning. From the days when the Episcopal Church still considered itself to be
Protestant, we have a whole book of "doctored" anthems, engraved with double
texts between the lines of music. In italic is the original text in the
original language, and in parallel in normal face, completely different words
in English. The preface of the book clearly states that the objective is to
make the good tunes (e.g. several Ave Marias, etc) that are spoiled only by
the doctrinally inappropriate words available to good protestant choirs. :-)
I would guess it was published about 40 years ago.
Sorry I don't have the details to hand.
bretw...@gmail.com
> I have had an interesting request from one of my choir members. Does anyone
> know anything about an erstwhile "Protestant Ave Maria". My choir member
> thinks it may have been altered text set to the Schubert. Thanks!
>
> _________________________________
> Robert Stone
> Assistant Director of Music Ministries
> Christ Church of Oak Brook
> Voice: 630/941-7067
> Cell: 630/291-7067
> Fax: 630/941-3690
> b...@ahmuse.com
Here is what I have so far...
(1st verse)
Heavenly Father, hear our prayer,
We seek Thee in supplication,
Our lives are safe in Thine affection.
Heavenly Father!
Heavenly Father, Hallowed Thy name.
Oh lead us from our temptation,
But deliver us from evil shame.
Thy kingdom come with ....(?)
We served our lives into ….(?)
Our hearts are (?) for rebirth
Thy love hath (?) good forever
And glory shines in Heaven and earth
Heavenly Father!
If you have the correct lyrics to the 2nd verse, I would be ever so grateful!
Thank you,
Bret Woolley
Newbury Park, CA
Ph: 805-277-4864
bretw...@gmail.com
> Bob Stone wrote:
> >
> > I have had an interesting request from one of my choir members. Does anyone
> > know anything about an erstwhile "Protestant Ave Maria". My choir member
> > thinks it may have been altered text set to the Schubert. Thanks!
>
> Series. It has an English text by Lorraine Noel Finley. The text is as
> follows:
>
> Heavenly Father! Hear our pray'r!
> We seek Thee in supplication;
> Our lives are safe in Thy affection.
> Heavenly Father!
>
> If this sounds like something you want, go for it. It's arranged by
> Wallingford Riegger. Its catalog number is A5110; Harold Flammer Music
> is a division of Shawnee Press. It's SATB with soprano/tenor solo.
>
> I'd recommend this only to non-Catholics, however. I'm choir director
> at a Catholic church, and someone bought it for our church. It was
> bought in memory of the woman's son who died tragically young, and she
> wanted it sung, in the Latin version, on the anniversary of his death.
>
> This edition is terrible to use with the Latin Ave Maria text. They
> have changed so many rhythms, adding additional notes and excising
> others to make the English text fit. I had to type up a 2-page set of
> notes for my choir indicating what changes they would need to make in
> their scores to sing the Latin. It's not worth it for a church choir!
>
> Berni Phillips
> Queen of Apostles Catholic Church