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Pat Lister Lattice Guitars

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David Schramm

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Aug 17, 2006, 1:21:56 AM8/17/06
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Does anyone have info on Pat Lister and his lattice braced guitars?


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Kevin Hall

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Aug 17, 2006, 9:59:45 PM8/17/06
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As a matter of fact, I have worked on a Lister guitar. A player in
Hamilton, Ont. had one for many years, and loved it. When Segovia toured
Canada about 30 years ago he played Charlies' Lister and I believe he used
it for one concert.

The workmanship was a little crude, but the voice was excellent. As I
understand it Pat was a retired aircraft engineer, Australian originally,
who built classical guitars as a hobby in his retirement in Canada.

Externally the instrument was quite conservative, but the bracing consisted
of a fine lattice-like network of very light struts. If I remember
correctly the grid pattern was spaced about 3/4" or less apart.

That instrument had been made in the late 50s or early 60s I believe. The
last time I saw it was in about 1968 or '69, and it was pretty well worn
then.

I have tried repeatedly to find the owner, but all his old friends seem to
have lost touch with him. The last I heard of him he was living in a
monastery somewhere in Quebec.

I hope you or some other classical devotee does manage to find that guitar,
because it's about time Pat got the recognition he deserves. His work on
lattice tops certainly pre-dates that of the folks currently building in
similar style, but I've never seen any of them give him credit for the
concept.
KH
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David Schramm

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Aug 18, 2006, 12:15:34 AM8/18/06
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Hi Kevin,
Thanks for the info! I would love to know more about Mr. Lister and his
lattice design. The search is on!
I find these lattice guitars very interesting. I love building them. I'm
running out of good Brazilian Rosewood veneer. It's hard to find some good
quality BRW veneer.

Regards,

David Schramm

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Aug 18, 2006, 2:46:28 AM8/18/06
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Evidently Jean Larrivee and Patt Lister built classical guitars together.
Sergei de Jonge apprenticed with Jean during this time, around 1969.

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Kevin Hall

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Aug 18, 2006, 9:15:10 AM8/18/06
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Jean was taught by the German builder, Edgar Munch, which explains why the
early Larrivee steel strings were so similar to Germanic classicals.

I've known Jean since about 1968, but never heard about he and Lister
working together. It is possible they met and exchanged ideas and/or
materials because the guitar building 'scene' in Canada at that time was so
small. Jean wasn't building full time until about ' 68 or so at the
earliest. Prior to that he was an auto-body man. In the late 60s he was
working out of the back of the Toronto Folklore Ctr. on Avenue Rd., then he
moved to larger premises further north in town. He was in the east end of
the city for a while, then moved out to British Columbia around ' 74.

Most of the Canadian builders worked with Jean at one time or another, and
many of them still build very similar instruments.

A chap called Kolya Panheuyser ( or something similar) worked with Jean for
a while back then. He was a nephew or some similar relation to Edgar Munch,
and I know he went back to Germany for a while to build Munch guitars for
Edgars' widow. He may know more about Pat, but I'm not sure which side of
the Atlantic he's on now. He had an apprentice of his own named Robin
Green, but the last I heard of Robin he was building large, elaborate doll
houses for a living.

KH
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Federico

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Aug 25, 2006, 9:12:34 AM8/25/06
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Dave,

Check your email. I located 1700 square feet of IRW veneer for you. I
will send photos today. The seller wants to dump it pronto, I think it
will be a good deal for you.

-Federico

da...@davebattlerphotography.ca

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Nov 27, 2016, 12:10:00 PM11/27/16
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I have one of Pat's student guitars ( no Lattice) . It is very worn but still plays very well and has a pleasant sound with very good sustain. Love it.

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Apr 3, 2017, 8:14:26 PM4/3/17
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I just picked up my mother's Lister to play with the school choir.
It's a 1967 model and it has the original case. What a beauty!
Hardly a scratch on it. It was a gift to my mum from my dad for her to prepare for the Grade 8 exam at the Royal Conservatory of Music in Toronto 1967. Canada's centennial!
What a pleasure to play.
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