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Re: Yamaha, Eastman beginner Violin outfits

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entfred

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Mar 8, 2007, 3:01:48 PM3/8/07
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Has anyone purchased a beginner (i.e. one of the most inexpensive)
Yamaha violin outfits
in recent years? How does this compare to the beginner Eastman
outfits?

Jon Teske

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Mar 8, 2007, 5:18:08 PM3/8/07
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I am not familiar with Eastman's beginning outfits, but I own one of
their upper end violas. The guy who does my violin repairs (on an
expensive violin) uses Eastman's extensively for his beginner packages
at his retail store and for his rentals. Eastman's is actually only
about 10 miles from where I live in the outer Washington DC suburbs in
Clarksburg, MD, but I haven't been there myself. They do wholesale
only to dealers from that location. They enjoy a fine reputation. I'm
not familiar with Yamaha violins although I have had a Yamaha piano
for years.

Jon Teske

Roy

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Mar 27, 2007, 8:12:40 PM3/27/07
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I teach elementary instrumental music (band and strings) in central
Pennsylvania. Of all the locally available dealers, two are
recommendable and only one of them for strings. The other of the two has
the local Yamaha franchise, so I've seen several of the new Yamaha
outfits. I hate them. Cheap sound, cheap strings, hard to tune. The
other dealer is actually a violin shop run by a master violin maker. He
buys Eastman outfits in bulk, sets them up nicely and rents them out
cheap. I love them. Play as great as they sound, hold up well, tune
easily. Another great make to look for is Samuel Shen. Made in China,
but by a master violin maker who used to live and work in Chicago (I
think) and moved back to China to be with his family.

beststudentviolins.com

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Mar 27, 2007, 8:25:08 PM3/27/07
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"Roy" <ro...@pa.net> wrote in message
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I'll get into trouble (with someone, doubtless) for doing this, but I really
do like the Cremona violins. At the price, I'm finding good uses for them
in my studio; good trade-up with respect to size, and no problems with them
that can't be easily remedied with a little bit of set-up, and I mean a
little bit:

http://beststudentviolins.com/violins.html

Jon Teske

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Mar 27, 2007, 11:37:09 PM3/27/07
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My viola is a high end Eastman. It was about $2100 in 1997 with
a Bobelok basic retangular case. It has been very servicable and I use
it in my occasional symphonic and chamber playing.

Jon

Jack H.

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Mar 28, 2007, 11:52:11 AM3/28/07
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You hit on the point.
Good set up!
I have seen $100 chinese violins and all they need to work fine is a
new set of pegs, a good bridge and sound post, dominant strings, and a
nice fingerboard dressing.

That is probably the difference between the eastman as set up by a
professional and a yamaha right out of the box.

Jack H.

juj...@mandovoodoo.com

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Apr 1, 2007, 9:33:31 PM4/1/07
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The Eastman line is quite reliable. Finish is relatively thin,
construction very nice. The ones set up by Eastman have the
soundposts set well enough. I generally go through quite a bit of
setup tweeking.

I'm not familiar with the current Yamaha line.

I used to carry the Cremona low end, but I was unhappy with the last
SV-175 shipment. The setup wasn't where it needed to be. One
soundpost was cut so badly that the sharp edge had cracked the top. I
can't deal with that kind of thing. As I recall, one outfit was
actually having these drop shipped with the stock piano wire strings
and thick bridge. Shudder to think of a beginner getting this to work
well. The lower end of the Cremona line needs a going through to
really be suitable for serious learning.

I've actually had good results with the mid level Cremona.
Unfortunately, low priced web retailers keep the price down low enough
that adding time and good strings makes them uncompetitive in the
typical retail setting where one has to stand behind the
instruments.

Steve


Liz Ward

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May 21, 2007, 4:04:55 AM5/21/07
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Yamahas are grossly overpriced. I don't like the Eastmans either but at
least they are sensibly priced. Get a Gliga.

Liz

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entfred

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May 21, 2007, 9:41:19 AM5/21/07
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Why don't you like the Eastmans? I still haven't played one, but their
archtops are nice.
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