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nospam

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Apr 5, 2002, 9:32:32 PM4/5/02
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Can anyone point me towards some good, contemporary or old time, blues
leaning violinists? I've already checked out Papa John Creach, and he's not
that good away from Hot Tuna.

It doesn't have to just be Blues blues. It could be old-time style and
bluesy too.

Dwight


RMWatson

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Apr 5, 2002, 11:35:18 PM4/5/02
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Try the following:

Stuff Smith
Joe Venuti
Don "Sugarcane" Harris
Stephane Grappelli
Jean Luc Ponty

appaloosa

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Apr 8, 2002, 7:59:12 AM4/8/02
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Do not forget bluegrass fiddlers who include lots of bluesy materials in their
playing ; Richard Greene and Kenny Baker as Bill Monroe sidemen, Vassar
Clements, John Hartford ..(among others)

nospam

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Apr 8, 2002, 9:25:04 AM4/8/02
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"appaloosa" <minor_s...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
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> Do not forget bluegrass fiddlers who include lots of bluesy materials in
their
> playing ; Richard Greene and Kenny Baker as Bill Monroe sidemen, Vassar
> Clements, John Hartford ..(among others)
>

This is helpful. I still remember seeing "Seatrain" (Richard Greene) back
around 1970 at the Warehouse in New Orleans. They simply blew away every
other band that night.


Peter Schug

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Apr 8, 2002, 9:22:29 PM4/8/02
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in article QSgs8.14339$44.9...@typhoon.sonic.net, nospam at
nos...@notforme.com wrote on 4/8/02 9:25 AM:

Richard Greene has three albums with his Jazz quartet. I like "Molly on the
Shore" and "BlueGreene" best. There is a third, and I have it around here
someplace, but it is not as good. (I like it though) There is an album
called "Fiddlehead Blues" by Randy Sabien that I like, but it is probably
impossible to find. I was at a workshop by Randy Sabien and in person and up
close he is electrifying. I wish Homespun would do an instructional video
with him.

BTW. Homespun has a blues fiddle video by Darol Anger and a Jazz video with
Matt Glasser. I am sad so say I have the latter and I haven't watched it
yet, but Matt Glasser is a fun jazz fiddler. I love his stuff. He is the
fiddler on a great, weird, beautiful CD called "Sands of Time."

Pete
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http://home.att.net/~PeteSchug/
Updated July 23, 2000

Peter Schug

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Apr 8, 2002, 10:29:07 PM4/8/02
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in article B8D7BAE5.15DBF%Pete...@att.net, Peter Schug at
Pete...@att.net wrote on 4/8/02 9:22 PM:

[snip]



> BTW. Homespun has a blues fiddle video by Darol Anger and a Jazz video with
> Matt Glasser. I am sad so say I have the latter and I haven't watched it
> yet, but Matt Glasser is a fun jazz fiddler. I love his stuff. He is the
> fiddler on a great, weird, beautiful CD called "Sands of Time."
>
> Pete


For some odd reason Matt Glasser spells his name Glaser. Just thought y'all
might like to know that!

mojo*n...@tiac.net

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Apr 12, 2002, 9:23:10 PM4/12/02
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Greene's first LP for Rounder was great "Duets"
I don't think it has been released as a CD yet.
Wolves Howlin' is another fine recording.

On Tue, 09 Apr 2002 01:22:29 GMT, Peter Schug <Pete...@att.net>
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Jpjm206

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Apr 23, 2002, 7:57:14 PM4/23/02
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>Greene's first LP for Rounder was great "Duets"
>I don't think it has been released as a CD yet.
>Wolves Howlin' is another fine recording.
>
Isn't this primarily a bluegrass recording? My friend played it for me and he
does old time tunes, but it a bluegrassy style.


>>>> Do not forget bluegrass fiddlers who include lots of bluesy materials in
>>> their
>>>> playing ; Richard Greene and Kenny Baker as Bill Monroe sidemen, Vassar
>>>> Clements, John Hartford ..(among others)
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is helpful. I still remember seeing "Seatrain" (Richard Greene) back
>>> around 1970 at the Warehouse in New Orleans. They simply blew away every
>>> other band that night.

He STILL has the best Orange Blossom Special.


>>>
>>Richard Greene has three albums with his Jazz quartet. I like "Molly on the
>>Shore" and "BlueGreene" best. There is a third, and I have it around here
>>someplace, but it is not as good. (I like it though) There is an album
>>called "Fiddlehead Blues" by Randy Sabien that I like, but it is probably
>>impossible to find. I was at a workshop by Randy Sabien and in person and up
>>close he is electrifying. I wish Homespun would do an instructional video
>>with him.
>>
>>BTW. Homespun has a blues fiddle video by Darol Anger and a Jazz video with
>>Matt Glasser. I am sad so say I have the latter and I haven't watched it
>>yet, but Matt Glasser is a fun jazz fiddler. I love his stuff. He is the
>>fiddler on a great, weird, beautiful CD called "Sands of Time."
>>
>>Pete
>>--

Indeed, Richard Greene's "Duets" is one of my absolute favorites. However,
concerning blues violin.....
When I started playing the fiddle ( old-time ) about 14 years ago, after 20
years as a guitarist ( folk, blues & jazz ) I wondered why there wasn't a great
blues fiddle player. I mean Chicago style. Sure there are folk blues players,
like Howard Armstrong and Jim Baxter, and some Library of Congress types, but
why isn't there a violin version of Buddy Guy, or Michael Bloomfield, or Alber
King? There is probably no instrument as expressive as the violin, but it's
scarce in blues and jazz. Anyway, a couple years ago, on The Blues Show (
Philadelphia's WXPN ) I heard it. Exactly what I was looking for. A Chicago
blues record with a screaming violin solo. Finally, pay dirt. I called the
station and Johnny Meister told me the singer was Sam Taylor and the violin
solo was by Heather Hardy. She absolutely kicked ass. A couple years later,
she came to a blues club in Doylestown, PA. I went with a friend ( converted
guitar to fiddle player ) who is an expert in Chicago blues. He played in blues
bands since puberty and he's over 50 now. He was knocked out.
So, for real Chicago blues violin, check out Heather Hardy. BTW, she's coming
back to Doylestown at Cafe Classics this Saturday night.
This is totally unsolicited.

John Mahony

stringcheese

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Apr 23, 2002, 8:22:28 PM4/23/02
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> >>> This is helpful. I still remember seeing "Seatrain" (Richard Greene)
back
> >>> around 1970 at the Warehouse in New Orleans. They simply blew away
every
> >>> other band that night.
>
> He STILL has the best Orange Blossom Special.

He be pretty good, fo sho. I was amazed to see Peter Rowan was a member of
Seatrain. Didn't know that, but was drifting off to sleep listening to the
cd the other night, trying to read the tiny print on the cd label, and there
was his name. I mean, his name has only just recently been getting my
attention, so I just didn't notice it before. I guess Seatrain only did
that one album.

> So, for real Chicago blues violin, check out Heather Hardy. BTW, she's
coming
> back to Doylestown at Cafe Classics this Saturday night.
> This is totally unsolicited.

I've got Julie Lyons Lieberman's book "Rocking out Blue Fiddle", and in the
discography it mentions Heather Hardy, but I can't find anything on the
shelves by her. I live very near a good roots store, but they don't have
it. I'll try Amazon.

I also ordered a compilation set of Sugarcane Harris stuff. It's just been
released. 2 cd set.


Lisa Boucher

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Apr 30, 2002, 1:20:32 AM4/30/02
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"nospam" <nos...@notforme.com> wrote in message news:<47tr8.13521$44.8...@typhoon.sonic.net>...

> Can anyone point me towards some good, contemporary or old time, > blues leaning violinists?

Billy Bang!

Jpjm206

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May 5, 2002, 8:53:07 PM5/5/02
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>He be pretty good, fo sho. I was amazed to see Peter Rowan was a member of
>Seatrain.
Another member of Seatrain was Rick Roberts, who went on to be a member of
Firefall, if memory serves.


Didn't know that, but was drifting off to sleep listening to the
>cd the other night, trying to read the tiny print on the cd label, and there
>was his name. I mean, his name has only just recently been getting my
>attention, so I just didn't notice it before. I guess Seatrain only did
>that one album.

I know that they did at least one other, Marblehead Messenger, not as good as
the first one, though. I don't think Richard Greene was on the second, but Andy
Kulberg was. He was a flute player that got some currency back then.


>> So, for real Chicago blues violin, check out Heather Hardy. BTW, she's
>coming
>> back to Doylestown at Cafe Classics this Saturday night.
>> This is totally unsolicited.
>
>I've got Julie Lyons Lieberman's book "Rocking out Blue Fiddle", and in the
>discography it mentions Heather Hardy, but I can't find anything on the
>shelves by her. I live very near a good roots store, but they don't have
>it. I'll try Amazon.

Heather has a website with CD's for sale.

>I also ordered a compilation set of Sugarcane Harris stuff. It's just been
>released. 2 cd set.

I'm embarrassed to admit that I don't know much about Sugarcane Harris. I'll
have to check him out.


John Mahony

saddamcheese

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May 5, 2002, 9:41:20 PM5/5/02
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> Heather has a website with CD's for sale.

They're out right now. Checked the other day.

>
> >I also ordered a compilation set of Sugarcane Harris stuff. It's just
been
> >released. 2 cd set.
>

Actually, its been delayed in delivery by Amazon by about a month.

> I'm embarrassed to admit that I don't know much about Sugarcane Harris.
I'll
> have to check him out.
>

If you can get ahold of "USA Union" by John Mayall, he's on there.


Peter Schug

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May 5, 2002, 9:59:50 PM5/5/02
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If you get the Sugarcane Harris album let us know how it is.

He is one of those guys I've been hearing about for years but never actually
heard much of. I've got the Mayall album, but Sugarcane's playing is only a
small part of it, and the sound is not up front.

I first heard of the compilation well over a year ago and I've asked in a
lot of NYC music stores. You and I seem to be the only ones who have heard
of it! I know there is a web site, but where are the albums?

Pete
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Check out my fiddle building web site
http://home.att.net/~PeteSchug/
Updated July 23, 2000


in article 4blB8.3740$lX2....@typhoon.sonic.net, saddamcheese at
ku...@inthe.way wrote on 5/5/02 9:41 PM:

saddamcheese

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May 5, 2002, 11:33:35 PM5/5/02
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"Peter Schug" <Pete...@att.net> wrote in message
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> If you get the Sugarcane Harris album let us know how it is.
>
> He is one of those guys I've been hearing about for years but never
actually
> heard much of. I've got the Mayall album, but Sugarcane's playing is only
a
> small part of it, and the sound is not up front.

I thought I heard more of him than anyone else, but then again, I was
listening for more of him than anyone else.

>
> I first heard of the compilation well over a year ago and I've asked in a
> lot of NYC music stores. You and I seem to be the only ones who have heard
> of it! I know there is a web site, but where are the albums?

I want my new CD (sung to the tune of that old Mark Knofler ditty).

I heard you might be able to find some of his old stuff on vinyl, but that
ain't no fun.

Has anyone here actually heard Heather Hardy, live or on disk?


Jpjm206

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May 6, 2002, 7:45:17 PM5/6/02
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>Has anyone here actually heard Heather Hardy, live or on disk?
>

As I mentioned in a previous post in this thread, I caught her about 6mos ago.
She absolutely knocked me out. Her band was her on fiddle, guys on guitar, bass
and drums. A very solid band. Her playing was firmly of the tradition. She also
stretched out, but strictly out of a blues bag.
She also plays/tours extensively with Sam Taylor.

A killer.

When I saw that she had CD's with a band she fronted, I thought that maybe she
didn't do straight up blues, but maybe R&B type stuff and real vocally stuff.
But she was very straight up.

She was in the Philly area here, on April 27th, but I went to see jazz
violinist John Blake that night instead. I take lessons from John Blake.

John Mahony

saddamcheese

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May 6, 2002, 8:14:06 PM5/6/02
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"Jpjm206" <jpj...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Has anyone here actually heard Heather Hardy, live or on disk?
> >
>
> As I mentioned in a previous post in this thread, I caught her about 6mos
ago.

You might have been the one who turned me onto her in the first place.
Actually, she's included in the discography section of Julie Lyons
Liebermann's book on blues fiddle too.


mo...@tiac.net

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May 16, 2002, 12:00:06 AM5/16/02
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Seatrain had 4 albums
1) "Seatrain"= sort of baroque psychedelic jazz- I like it and there a
few really nice arangements by Richard Greene
2) "Seatrain" w/Rowan, Greene and Lloyd Baskin -a great record
3) "Marblehead Messenger" 2 good cuts but IMO a big drop in quality
from 2. Green and Rowan were on this.
4) "Watch" --really a different group w/o Greene. If Rick Roberts was
with the group (and I don't think he was) it was only on this record.
Their lyric writer was named Roberts though.

2&3 are available on a single CD, maybe as an import.

Claude Williams plays blues violin here and there on his
recordings--also Stuff Smith. Both are really fine blues players.
So does this person:
http://www.rubyharrismusic.com/about.html

If you want to learn blues on the violin I'd check out
blues players on other instruments though ie: sax players
Ace Cannon ("Blues Sax for the Millennium"), Noble "Thin Man"
Watts" or a good harp player like Little Walter or Walter Horton.

or this:

http://www.saxontheweb.net/Price/Blues1.html#BluesPhrases

rsun...@gmail.com

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How about Nigel Kennedy ? Virtuso
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