Stradivarius Violin
koum...@pica.army.mil
I'd like to know if my violin is a real Stradivarius or just a fake. The
label in side reads:
Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
Faciebat Anno 1713
Made in Czechoslovakia
Any information you can be provide on an original Stradivarius would be
appreciated. Thanks.
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Bob Gollihur
koum...@pica.army.mil wrote in message <8759433...@dejanews.com>...
>I'd like to know if my violin is a real Stradivarius or just a fake. The
>label in side reads:
>
>Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
>Faciebat Anno 1713
>Made in Czechoslovakia
>
>Any information you can be provide on an original Stradivarius would be
>appreciated. Thanks.
Hmmmm. Was there a Czechoslovakia in 1713?? <g>
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koum...@pica.army.mil wrote:
>I'd like to know if my violin is a real Stradivarius or just a fake. The
>label in side reads:
>Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
>Faciebat Anno 1713
>Made in Czechoslovakia
>Any information you can be provide on an original Stradivarius would be
>appreciated. Thanks.
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The term "Made In Czechoslovakia" gives it all away. The instrument
is probably a Czech-made Strad copy. If you are based near a
reputable violin dealer, have it appraised to determine its true age
and value.
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Michael Low
> koum...@pica.army.mil wrote:
>
> >I'd like to know if my violin is a real Stradivarius or just a fake. The
> >label in side reads:
>
> >Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> >Faciebat Anno 1713
> >Made in Czechoslovakia
>
> >Any information you can be provide on an original Stradivarius would be
> >appreciated. Thanks.
>
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>
> The term "Made In Czechoslovakia" gives it all away. The instrument
> is probably a Czech-made Strad copy. If you are based near a
> reputable violin dealer, have it appraised to determine its true age
> and value.
>
Forget having it appraised. Why bother if it's obviously a copy?
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koum...@pica.army.mil wrote:
>I'd like to know if my violin is a real Stradivarius or just a fake. The
>label in side reads:
>Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
>Faciebat Anno 1713
>Made in Czechoslovakia
>Any information you can be provide on an original Stradivarius would be
>appreciated. Thanks.
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Antonio Stradivari (Stadivarius is the latinized form of the name) did
not travel much outside of Cremona. And certainly not to
Czechoslovakia which did not even exist until after WW I (and does not
exist today since the Czech and Slovak republics are now separate.
When Stradivari was alive that part of the world was provinces in the
Austro Hungarian Empire for the most part. So if your violin was made
in Czechoslovakia, it has to be newer than about 1918. Literally
thousands of violins say they are strads when in effect they might be
made to the same measurements as a strad if you are lucky.
The experts in the field, Hill of London, did a book many years ago.
Stradivari made about 1100 instruments in his long life. About 600 or
so still exist and most are well documented. There have been only two
or three genuine "attic strads" found in this century and they are a
few which are well known, but happen to be stolen at the moment. One
of those showed up about ten years ago after being missing for 40
years. The "name" instrument (Strad or Guarneri, I don't remember
which) which belonged to the late virtuosa, Erica Morini, was stolen
about a year ago from her New York apartment just before she died. I
have not heard if it has been recovered.
What about the missing 500 or so violins? The provenence of most of
them is well known. Stradivari had a patrician clientele during most
of his life (Dukes, Kings, Bishops etc.) for the musicians of their
courts or institutions (i.e. the Church), and they kept pretty good
records. War, fires, disasters etc. have accounted for most of the
losses, and in general these are well known. Since WW 2, at least two
name virtuosi have died in plane crashes (Jacque Thibaud and Ginette
Niveu, in about 1949 and 1951) and their instruments were lost with
them. (Niveu played a Strad by another member of the family, a son or
nephew - violin makers tend to be dynastic).
Re your violin, the chances of it being the real McCoy are slim and
none.
Jon Teske (who plays a contemporary American violin and viola, both of
which were made for him, so he knows exactly what he has). He used to
have a "Czech Strad" as a kid.
Tim Robinson
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>koum...@pica.army.mil wrote:
>>Any information you can be provide on an original Stradivarius would be
>>appreciated. Thanks.
That was a very nice little write-up on musical history. I enjoyed it.
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Michael Low
In article <61bhgb$dsi$1...@nonews.col.hp.com>, da...@col.hp.com (David E
Allen) wrote:
> Michael Low (mtro...@nospam.com) wrote:
> : Forget having it appraised. Why bother if it's obviously a copy?
>
> The appraisal might still be of value - in determining if it's a copy worth
> $100 or a copy worth $10,000. :-) A violin doesn't have to be a Strad to
> be valuable; nor is it valueless just because it is a copy of a Strad.
>
> dave allen, colorado springs
Yes, but a Czech copy? Opinions welcome...
Nick Sexton
In article <8759433...@dejanews.com>, koum...@pica.army.mil writes
>I'd like to know if my violin is a real Stradivarius or just a fake. The
>label in side reads:
>
>Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
>Faciebat Anno 1713
>Made in Czechoslovakia
>
>appreciated. Thanks.
Hmm... If it says it's a Stradivarius, and you're not sure it is, the
chances are it isn't. You'd know by now if it were.
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